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American foreign policy is a result of the policies of other nations as well as our own government. It's just that the terminally stupid are too hooked on blaming our own nation for the ills of the world. I'm sure Obama will apologize on our behalf.... oh, wait.... he already did.
Fuck off whining.
Are you a troll when you post a thread with a question like that?
YES
Are you a troll when you post a thread with a question like that?
YES
Apparently, you don't have an answer to it, and so your presence is very much not needed sir. Good day.
American foreign policy is a result of the policies of other nations as well as our own government. It's just that the terminally stupid are too hooked on blaming our own nation for the ills of the world. I'm sure Obama will apologize on our behalf.... oh, wait.... he already did.
Fuck off whining.
So when is it appropriate to hold our nation responsible, for ANYthing?
You do realize that you can't blame our President for his foreign policy ills but simultaneously never blame our "Nation" for any ills. It doesn't wash.
Are you a troll when you post a thread with a question like that?
YES
Apparently, you don't have an answer to it, and so your presence is very much not needed sir. Good day.
There is no answer to a troll question.
When did you stop beating your wife? DOes your dad know you're gay? Are you a hypocrite when...?
No answer could be appropriate. No worthwhile discussion can come from such a thing. Of all the ways to phrase the question that might result in something meaningful you have chosen the one guaranteed to chuck this thread into the Lame Zone.
Sir, I salute you!
@ you taking the time to peep my music and I don't even know or care who the fuck you are. Loser.American foreign policy is a result of the policies of other nations as well as our own government. It's just that the terminally stupid are too hooked on blaming our own nation for the ills of the world. I'm sure Obama will apologize on our behalf.... oh, wait.... he already did.
Fuck off whining.
So when is it appropriate to hold our nation responsible, for ANYthing?
You do realize that you can't blame our President for his foreign policy ills but simultaneously never blame our "Nation" for any ills. It doesn't wash.
I hold lots of nations to blame. I'm not so obsessed with our own faults as a nation that I think we need to keep beating ourselves up over it. That is a leftie disease..... but, let's just blame the Republicans, right?
Moron.
Oh, and your fucking music all sounds the same.
All nations' foreign policies have the effect of advancing that nation's own best interests, long term and/or short term. Usually winners and losers are involved. If that nation ends up on the winning end, their foreign policy is successful.
It's all Bush's Fault.
Every damned thing thats wrong in the world that is. LOL
True. The problem is that what this administration tends to define as our best interest is not in line with what I and many others define as our best interests. In fact, I am quite curious as to what he views as our interests here. I can't see it too clearly.All nations' foreign policies have the effect of advancing that nation's own best interests, long term and/or short term. Usually winners and losers are involved. If that nation ends up on the winning end, their foreign policy is successful.
110% Agree. I just find it to be insulting that you can't have a Rational discussion about world affairs, while including a look inward, without being chastized. I think that it's ridiculous and emotionalism shouldn't be overtaking intelligence in 2010 IMO.
Yea, Obama might have apoligized too much or w/e, but those who are lambasting him for those speeches always leave out the 10-15 minute parts where he's discussing America's exceptionalism, and that's disengenuous. I don't see how anyone can deny that. He's on video praising our Country all over the world, and the tidbits where he can simultaneously humble us, while praising us, gets smashed by emotionalism.
All nations' foreign policies have the effect of advancing that nation's own best interests, long term and/or short term. Usually winners and losers are involved. If that nation ends up on the winning end, their foreign policy is successful.
110% Agree. I just find it to be insulting that you can't have a Rational discussion about world affairs, while including a look inward, without being chastized. I think that it's ridiculous and emotionalism shouldn't be overtaking intelligence in 2010 IMO.
Yea, Obama might have apoligized too much or w/e, but those who are lambasting him for those speeches always leave out the 10-15 minute parts where he's discussing America's exceptionalism, and that's disengenuous. I don't see how anyone can deny that. He's on video praising our Country all over the world, and the tidbits where he can simultaneously humble us, while praising us, gets smashed by emotionalism.
All nations' foreign policies have the effect of advancing that nation's own best interests, long term and/or short term. Usually winners and losers are involved. If that nation ends up on the winning end, their foreign policy is successful.
110% Agree. I just find it to be insulting that you can't have a Rational discussion about world affairs, while including a look inward, without being chastized. I think that it's ridiculous and emotionalism shouldn't be overtaking intelligence in 2010 IMO.
Yea, Obama might have apoligized too much or w/e, but those who are lambasting him for those speeches always leave out the 10-15 minute parts where he's discussing America's exceptionalism, and that's disengenuous. I don't see how anyone can deny that. He's on video praising our Country all over the world, and the tidbits where he can simultaneously humble us, while praising us, gets smashed by emotionalism.
Right, so your OP is bemoaning the foreign policies of which governments, precisely - besides ours?
Fucking losers like you who focus solely on your biased view, in which whining about Republicans equates to an intelligent debate, make me laugh. Seriously.
We cannot change the past - we can learn from it and move on. It's a pity that some of us are not capable of seeing anything but the faults of the nation. If you live abroad, you might get a very different view.... You might actually understand how much good we have done - along with the few fuck ups.... But I'm not gonna berate the nation just because a bunch of fucking lefties have decided that we should.
I don't hate lefties - I despise their policies, their lack of backbone, their sheer hypocrisy and their ability to ignore all of our massive achievements in order to focus on the fuck ups.
Right, so your OP is bemoaning the foreign policies of which governments, precisely - besides ours?
110% Agree. I just find it to be insulting that you can't have a Rational discussion about world affairs, while including a look inward, without being chastized. I think that it's ridiculous and emotionalism shouldn't be overtaking intelligence in 2010 IMO.
Yea, Obama might have apoligized too much or w/e, but those who are lambasting him for those speeches always leave out the 10-15 minute parts where he's discussing America's exceptionalism, and that's disengenuous. I don't see how anyone can deny that. He's on video praising our Country all over the world, and the tidbits where he can simultaneously humble us, while praising us, gets smashed by emotionalism.
Right, so your OP is bemoaning the foreign policies of which governments, precisely - besides ours?
Fucking losers like you who focus solely on your biased view, in which whining about Republicans equates to an intelligent debate, make me laugh. Seriously.
We cannot change the past - we can learn from it and move on. It's a pity that some of us are not capable of seeing anything but the faults of the nation. If you live abroad, you might get a very different view.... You might actually understand how much good we have done - along with the few fuck ups.... But I'm not gonna berate the nation just because a bunch of fucking lefties have decided that we should.
I don't hate lefties - I despise their policies, their lack of backbone, their sheer hypocrisy and their ability to ignore all of our massive achievements in order to focus on the fuck ups.
You're too emotional to have an adult discussion with.
A discussion is not berating the nation.
Also, all you do is cry about people whining about Republicans while simultaneously whining yourself, about lefties, and subsequently acting like that makes you better. You're not. You're just a mean spirited person who gets hyper-emotional (post-wise, anyways, I don't fucking know you), whenever someone seemingly ticks off your sensitive sensibilities. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlax. That's my advice.
You're not rational. You think that an American looking to have an adult discussion about American foreign policy(you know, the Country the he/she lives in and can have an effect on)........ is somehow hating/leftist/blah blah, and also has to subsequently knock all OTHER country's ills, and CANT, at the same time, be grateful for America's achievements. You're narrow minded, is all I can say.
Right, so your OP is bemoaning the foreign policies of which governments, precisely - besides ours?
Fucking losers like you who focus solely on your biased view, in which whining about Republicans equates to an intelligent debate, make me laugh. Seriously.
We cannot change the past - we can learn from it and move on. It's a pity that some of us are not capable of seeing anything but the faults of the nation. If you live abroad, you might get a very different view.... You might actually understand how much good we have done - along with the few fuck ups.... But I'm not gonna berate the nation just because a bunch of fucking lefties have decided that we should.
I don't hate lefties - I despise their policies, their lack of backbone, their sheer hypocrisy and their ability to ignore all of our massive achievements in order to focus on the fuck ups.
You're too emotional to have an adult discussion with.
A discussion is not berating the nation.
Also, all you do is cry about people whining about Republicans while simultaneously whining yourself, about lefties, and subsequently acting like that makes you better. You're not. You're just a mean spirited person who gets hyper-emotional (post-wise, anyways, I don't fucking know you), whenever someone seemingly ticks off your sensitive sensibilities. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlax. That's my advice.
You're not rational. You think that an American looking to have an adult discussion about American foreign policy(you know, the Country the he/she lives in and can have an effect on)........ is somehow hating/leftist/blah blah, and also has to subsequently knock all OTHER country's ills, and CANT, at the same time, be grateful for America's achievements. You're narrow minded, is all I can say.
If I have a fault - it is being too unemotional.... Pissed, yea, but emotional - nope. That's you reading into a post something that is not there.
You start a 'discussion' about hypocrisy.... Hypocrisy is constantly blaming one side or one country for everything. Look at Britain - during its glory days... when the sun never set on the British Empire... they treated other countries abysmally. Do they constantly whine about that? No. They accept that their nation is not perfect and move on. So we are supposed to beat ourselves up for our policies of old? Nope. We did what we did - hindsight is always 20/20 and, while we're whining about the ills of our own policies, we completely ignore what created those policies.... In a similar way to this nonsense argument about America being the only nation ever to have used a nuke. Yea, we are. But.... in order to understand the use of nukes... we have to look at how the world was at that time, the reasons why we did what we did. When you factor in the facts, it was the right thing to do. We are not a perfect nation but.... having traveled a lot more than many of my fellow Americans... I can happily put hand on heart and say that America is a great nation. You might want to blame us for everything.... study some history first, then decide whether we are right or wrong. More often than not, we have been right.