Are there any real feminists on USMB?

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    As some of you might already be aware, the subject of feminism came up in a recent thread- specifically the contrast between the 1st and 2nd-wavers who believed in equality, responsibility, and independence and the modern neo-feminists who, much like those same groups who took over the Coloured Civil Rights movement, seek to invert, rather than abolish, the historical system of exploitation and socio-economic and political inequality.

    My question is this: are there any real feminists here? Si seems to get it, and Pixie sounds like the real deal. Anyone else? They seem to be a rare breed nowadays.
     
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    You're pretty effeminate...

    That's close enough.
     
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    You're brilliant, Paulie. I'm serious. Your rapier wit is simply astounding.

    And I'm not being sarcastic....
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Once again in english?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    CG likely fits the bill most of the time. And Chanel.

    Peggy Noonan seems to get it, too:

    Things Are Tough All Over
    By PEGGY NOONAN

    The story as I was told it is that in the early years of her prime ministership, Margaret Thatcher held a meeting with her aides and staff, all of whom were dominated by her, even awed. When it was over she invited her cabinet chiefs to join her at dinner in a nearby restaurant. They went, arrayed themselves around the table, jockeyed for her attention. A young waiter came and asked if they'd like to hear the specials. Mrs. Thatcher said, "I will have beef."

    Yes, said the waiter. "And the vegetables?"

    "They will have beef too."

    Too good to check, as they say. It is certainly apocryphal, but I don't want it to be. It captured her singular leadership style, which might be characterized as "unafraid."

    She was a leader.
    [Margaret Thatcher]

    She never played the victim.

    Margaret Thatcher would no more have identified herself as a woman, or claimed special pleading that she was a mere frail girl, or asked you to sympathize with her because of her sex, than she would have called up the Kremlin and asked how quickly she could surrender.

    ....

    The point is the big ones, the real ones, the Thatchers and Indira Gandhis and Golda Meirs and Angela Merkels, never play the boo-hoo game. They are what they are, but they don't use what they are. They don't hold up their sex as a feint: Why, he's not criticizing me, he's criticizing all women! Let us rise and fight the sexist cur.

    ....​
    Things Are Tough All Over - WSJ.com
     
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    What is a real feminist?
    Seriously.

    I think everyone knows what a sudo feminist is - a group of primarily lesbian women who hate men who have certainly hijacked feminism.
    But what is a real feminist?
    I am being serious.
    Does a woman who identifies herself as a feminist have a problem with stay at home Mom's? Is she somehoe offended if a man opens a door for her, or steps aside allowing her to go first through a door...or helps her lift something heavy?

    I have honestly no idea what a real feminist is.
     
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    I think Peggy Noonan's op-ed might give you an idea.

    JB said in another thread and sums it up nicely
     

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