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Communism: from each according to his ability to each according to his need
Capitalism: from each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed?
That's not even close to the truth.
first off, communism requires a huge murder count to get properly installed. Then it needs more murder to keep it in place.
Intentional Communities - ecovillages, communes, cohousing, coops
As for capitalism?
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Capitalism and social darwinism have long been found as two tenents of the same perspective.
and 90% of Americans benefit from the fact that we're a socialist civilization.Every American engages in and benefits from capitialism.
In a CAPITALIST system there is no wealth redistribution.
No, LC is correct in saying that there IS wealth redistribution within a capitalist system.
However it is largely voluntary.
A capitalist has optimized producing goods and services within a competitive environment because there is a demand for them from individuals who have independently decided to convert their earnings to those goods or services.
These individuals ELECT to redistribute their wealth however they please.
Non-capitalist systems rely on non-competitive environments and centralized, authoritarian planning to determine what is best for individuals to have or not.
I would not call free exchange "wealth redistribution".
As both parties benefit at the agreed upon price, the exchange is even.
Ignoramus.OK, so everybody knows that capitalism is evil and promotes wealth redistribution from the many toward the rich......duh.
But does capitalism have a positive aspect? Anything at all?
Wealth is earned and accumulated, not distributed.
All of what you are citing as examples of collectivism are small scale and voluntary - quite different than a monolithic command and control economy based on communism.
Capitalism is also voluntary.
I would not call free exchange "wealth redistribution".
As both parties benefit at the agreed upon price, the exchange is even.
Actually I was just trying to get around the splitting of hairs.
The exchange/distribution/redistribution/ Re-redistribution/Re-Re-Redistribution debate can continue ad-infinum, and bores the shit out of me.
Wealth is earned? Interesting comment, explain how Paris Hilton 'earned' her wealth? GWB seems to have 'earned' a considerable fortune too. How exactly did he earn his wealth?
Earned implies labor, does it not? Of course great wealth was accumulated by the forebearers who redistributed their wealth to their progeny, Paris and George.
Ignoramus.OK, so everybody knows that capitalism is evil and promotes wealth redistribution from the many toward the rich......duh.
But does capitalism have a positive aspect? Anything at all?
Wealth is earned and accumulated, not distributed.
Wealth is earned? Interesting comment, explain how Paris Hilton 'earned' her wealth? GWB seems to have 'earned' a considerable fortune too. How exactly did he earn his wealth?
Earned implies labor, does it not? Of course great wealth was accumulated by the forebearers who redistributed their wealth to their progeny, Paris and George.
Ignoramus.OK, so everybody knows that capitalism is evil and promotes wealth redistribution from the many toward the rich......duh.
But does capitalism have a positive aspect? Anything at all?
Wealth is earned and accumulated, not distributed.
Wealth is earned? sure is.Interesting comment, explain how Paris Hilton 'earned' her wealth? Her dad earned and passed it down to her. GWB seems to have 'earned' a considerable fortune too. What did he do for a living? Wasn't he in the Reserves, and a long time politician? Investments? How exactly did he earn his wealth?
Earned implies labor, does it not? No. You don't have to labor. Of course great wealth was accumulated by the forebearers who redistributed their wealth to their progeny,passed it on. Just as you would do, should you become rich. Paris and George.
and 90% of Americans benefit from the fact that we're a socialist civilization.Every American engages in and benefits from capitialism.
I don't normally ask for links to absurd statements.
but I have to know why you think 90% of Americans benefit from socialism.
With proof, not just opinion
You've got it exactly wrong, which I know doesn't matter at all to you. But for the benefit of anyone who might be misinformed by your error, capitalism is essentially a means of making money by exploiting the work of others. Simply stated, hard work is a way of earning a living. Capitalism is a way of becoming rich.[...]Capitalism is the only economic system for the FREE. Where $ is made by hard work, personal merits, intelligence . . .[...]
While capitalism has the potential for evil implementation, as in the example of slavery, if properly administered by socialist regulations it can be an effective means of creating equitably distributed wealth. A properly managed system of capitalist productivity existed between the commencement of FDR's New Deal and the commencement of Reaganomics, an anti-socialist effort to undermine the middle class by decimating the union movement, implementing laissez faire capitalism through de-regulation, promoting illegal immigration, eliminating foreign trade controls and the outsourcing of American jobs to foreign workers.
Briefly stated, socialistically regulated capitalism enabled the growth of America's material empire and unbridled capitalism is presently destroying it.
^^Stupidest post of the day so far^^
I know that's what exists in your twisted fantasy world, but not in REALITY. Your tired, silly, long since disproven National Socialist diatribe talking points aside, CAPITALISM is obviously what made America great. REAL, largely unhindered, Laissez Faire Capitalism indeed, the desire to keep earning more, the competition, race for profits. It's what made America rich, and drove us to countless innovations in all fields of this society. Again, success should NOT be punished or discouraged. MY $ doesn't belong to you you wannabe thief. Equally distributed income or Communism is UNAmerican, and immoral.
The radical, job killing, authoritarian regulation that so you mindlessly cherish is what's worsened this recession, prolonged it, gave us a RECORD deficit/debt, I could go on.
When you lay awake @ night and wonder why your side keeps loosing after your lies are exposed, and why you nuts are only 20% of this population/electorate TOPS, you'll always have this true answer.
Skyhouse
Founded: 1997
Location: rural Missouri
Population: 4 adults, 1 child
An income-sharing group within a larger ecovillage, dedicated to sustainability.
All of what you are citing as examples of collectivism are small scale and voluntary - quite different than a monolithic command and control economy based on communism.
Capitalism is also voluntary.
1) communism is inherently small-scale and tends toward confederated systems such as the FEC
2)There is no command-and-control under communism. Such is impossible in a communist system by definition.
3)Capitalism is voluntary? Tell it to Guatemala, the kids in the sweatshops, the average man or woman in the US prior to the successes of the labour movement, any colony...
What are you babbling about?
Seriously?
Grow the fuck up
Skyhouse
Founded: 1997
Location: rural Missouri
Population: 4 adults, 1 child
An income-sharing group within a larger ecovillage, dedicated to sustainability.
Ignoramus.
Wealth is earned and accumulated, not distributed.
Wealth is earned? Interesting comment, explain how Paris Hilton 'earned' her wealth? GWB seems to have 'earned' a considerable fortune too. How exactly did he earn his wealth?
Earned implies labor, does it not? Of course great wealth was accumulated by the forebearers who redistributed their wealth to their progeny, Paris and George.
GWB earned his wealth largely through the sale of the Rangers.
Paris Hilton is an outlier. Making public policy on fringe freaks like her is bad for society.
1) communism is inherently small-scale and tends toward confederated systems such as the FEC
2)There is no command-and-control under communism. Such is impossible in a communist system by definition.
3)Capitalism is voluntary? Tell it to Guatemala, the kids in the sweatshops, the average man or woman in the US prior to the successes of the labour movement, any colony...
All of what you are citing as examples of collectivism are small scale and voluntary - quite different than a monolithic command and control economy based on communism.
Capitalism is also voluntary.
1) communism is inherently small-scale and tends toward confederated systems such as the FEC
2)There is no command-and-control under communism. Such is impossible in a communist system by definition.
3)Capitalism is voluntary? Tell it to Guatemala, the kids in the sweatshops, the average man or woman in the US prior to the successes of the labour movement, any colony...
Ignoramus.
Wealth is earned and accumulated, not distributed.
Wealth is earned? Interesting comment, explain how Paris Hilton 'earned' her wealth? GWB seems to have 'earned' a considerable fortune too. How exactly did he earn his wealth?
Earned implies labor, does it not? Of course great wealth was accumulated by the forebearers who redistributed their wealth to their progeny, Paris and George.
GWB earned his wealth largely through the sale of the Rangers.
Paris Hilton is an outlier. Making public policy on fringe freaks like her is bad for society.
All of what you are citing as examples of collectivism are small scale and voluntary - quite different than a monolithic command and control economy based on communism.
Capitalism is also voluntary.
1) communism is inherently small-scale and tends toward confederated systems such as the FEC
2)There is no command-and-control under communism. Such is impossible in a communist system by definition.
3)Capitalism is voluntary? Tell it to Guatemala, the kids in the sweatshops, the average man or woman in the US prior to the successes of the labour movement, any colony...
MAN!
you people really need to learn to seperate politics from an economic system.
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Everthing that you have is because of Capitalism.your input please, please include a definition of beneficial in your entry. Thanks.
