Nosmo King
Gold Member
So sorry that you were unable to understand post #34...
perhaps once you go to college.
As a Liberal AND a person of faith, I take umbrage with the tactic of screening my political beliefs and forcing them through the flimsy template of Conservative thought to arrive at the false assumption that Liberals have abandoned the faith of their fathers and embrace a pagan, atheistic value system.
You seem to delight in diluting faith to make it serve your lying assumptions. You and your ilk think that by dismissing the faith of Liberals and imposing your warped assumptions on us that the act of disparaging Liberals can be excused as purging heretics from the ranks of the Godly. Shame on you for using faith as a political weapon. Shame on you for making false assumptions about the faith of others. Shame on you for not getting reality into your thinking.
1. "...As a Liberal AND a person of faith,..."
I suggest you research the meaning of the term 'syncretic.'
2. "dismissing the faith of Liberals..."
If I may use this board as evidence, it is clear that those on the left regularly attack and dismiss religion and 'people of faith.'
You may have to rethink your position.
3. While you use words well, they are, often, empty of the meaning for which they were intended.
"...your lying assumptions..."
Please provide any and all of the lies in the OP.
And, of course, if you cannot, that alone should shake your worldview.
You are probably unaware of the fact that calling an opponent a liar marks you as a liberal.
4. "...false assumption that Liberals have abandoned the faith of their fathers and embrace a pagan, atheistic value system."
Ah, so you DIDN'T understand post #34.
It is a well supported exegesis demonstrating the abandonment of faith in religion, in God, and the replacement of same with what is assumed to be reason and science.
Although I don't expect you to ever admit it in public, it would advance your mental growth to use that post to begin an indepth study...and consider picking up Melanie Philips' "World Turned Upside Down."
5. "...You seem to delight in diluting faith ..."
Couldn't be further from the truth.
6. "...dismissing the faith of Liberals ..."
Again, the OP documents that liberals themselves have dismissed faith. Or do you deny that every one of the items involves liberals.
Actually, the huff and puff of your posts admits it.
7. The rest of your post is simply patting your self on the back.
But I really enjoyed your post, and the fact that you are one of the few brave enough to engage in the dialogue.
Bravo.
Here's where your argument runs into the ditch. You have made an assumption that a person of faith cannot be politically liberal. Worse yet, you assume that a persons politics would be stronger than his faith. And even worse, you assume that a person's faith can be abandoned, even in the face of His glory and the wonders of His hand, so that a political ideology might mute the spirit and harden the heart.
I prefer to argue the third person on message boards. Faith is a very personal aspect of my life. In America, you and I are free to express our faith as we wish.
I resent the starting argument as phrased. You assume that faith and politics are connected at the hip. This is just rude. The assumption that someone cannot separate the two.
Next, you assert
'it is clear that those on the left regularly attack and dismiss religion and 'people of faith.'
If I dismiss right wing political action when it's motivated from the pulpit, it's because the actions were political, not religious. If the Jerry Falwells e.g. of America would preach the gospel and not to infringe on human rights, I guarantee no one but the extreme fringe of the Left, politically, would have a problem.
Now, every group in every society has an extreme fringe that pushes the envelope. This is a universal truth. Therefore, you have to accept the premise that even among conservatively politically motivated Christians, there will be a few trouble makers.
Don't play the victim, dear, it won't make a lick of sense, unless you're Chinese.
Christians won! That'd right. In America, we Christians have won. We've won culturally. We've won politically. A whole nation of Christians who have varying political beliefs.
When you refuse to believe that a politically liberal adult citizen is not free enough in America to vote his conscience, what type of America do you want to live in?
The rest of your post is just falling back on the same false assumption.
I'm glad you enjoyed my post. But I can't defend a position you placed me in that is a patent lie. In God, I have faith. In me, you have proof your argument is false.