Angry With Washington, 1 In 4 Americans Open To Secession

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BOSTON, Sept 19 (Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Anger with President Barack Obama's handling of issues ranging from healthcare reform to the rise of Islamic State militants drives some of the feeling, with Republican respondents citing dissatisfaction with his administration as coloring their thinking.

But others said long-running Washington gridlock had prompted them to wonder if their states would be better off striking out on their own, a move no U.S. state has tried in the 150 years since the bloody Civil War that led to the end of slavery in the South.

"I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference anymore which political party is running things. Nothing gets done," said Roy Gustafson, 61, of Camden, South Carolina, who lives on disability payments. "The state would be better off handling things on its own."

Scottish unionists won by a wider-than-expected 10-percentage-point margin.

Falling public approval of the Obama administration, attention to the Scottish vote and the success of activists who accuse the U.S. government of overstepping its authority - such as the self-proclaimed militia members who flocked to Nevada's Bundy ranch earlier this year during a standoff over grazing rights - is driving up interest in secession, experts said.

"It seems to have heated up, especially since the election of President Obama," said Mordecai Lee, a professor of governmental affairs at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee, who has studied secessionist movements.

'OBAMACARE' A FACTOR

More: Angry With Washington, 1 In 4 Americans Open To Secession

Does it make sense for any of the United States to secede? Would you like for your state to secede?
 
A secessionist movement over the first black president would be tragic irony to President Lincoln and the Civil War.
 
BOSTON, Sept 19 (Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Anger with President Barack Obama's handling of issues ranging from healthcare reform to the rise of Islamic State militants drives some of the feeling, with Republican respondents citing dissatisfaction with his administration as coloring their thinking.

But others said long-running Washington gridlock had prompted them to wonder if their states would be better off striking out on their own, a move no U.S. state has tried in the 150 years since the bloody Civil War that led to the end of slavery in the South.

"I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference anymore which political party is running things. Nothing gets done," said Roy Gustafson, 61, of Camden, South Carolina, who lives on disability payments. "The state would be better off handling things on its own."

Scottish unionists won by a wider-than-expected 10-percentage-point margin.

Falling public approval of the Obama administration, attention to the Scottish vote and the success of activists who accuse the U.S. government of overstepping its authority - such as the self-proclaimed militia members who flocked to Nevada's Bundy ranch earlier this year during a standoff over grazing rights - is driving up interest in secession, experts said.

"It seems to have heated up, especially since the election of President Obama," said Mordecai Lee, a professor of governmental affairs at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee, who has studied secessionist movements.

'OBAMACARE' A FACTOR

More: Angry With Washington, 1 In 4 Americans Open To Secession

Does it make sense for any of the United States to secede? Would you like for your state to secede?
People are so fucking stupid. They have no idea the implications of a single state becoming an independent country. They have no idea what that would mean and what would have to happen. These are probably the same people who don't even know the 3 branches of our government. More than likely most of them are republicans.
 
1 in 4? That is a remarkable metric and a testament to just how far Obama has driven this once respected country down the shitter. Nice going nutjobs of the Obama brigade

-Geaux

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(Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Exclusive Angry with Washington 1 in 4 Americans open to secession Reuters
 
Interesting. This was the topic of discussion at a dinner party recently. Would the amnesty that is coming change that poll?
Or sending 3,000 of our military forces to Africa to help with the Ebola problem? These decisions could negatively affect our country enormously.
 
I for one don't need liberals or what passes for most Democrats these days, I would get along quite well without them. They on the other hand need me and by that I mean my money to line their own pockets and bribe people for their votes with government hand outs.
 
1 in 4? That is a remarkable metric and a testament to just how far Obama has driven this once respected country down the shitter. Nice going nutjobs of the Obama brigade

-Geaux

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(Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Exclusive Angry with Washington 1 in 4 Americans open to secession Reuters


44% of adult Americans can't even define the Bill of Rights.

Who gives a shit what the average American thinks? I am serious

http://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-are-americans-66053

This link is 3 years old, but I am not hopeful that things have gotten better.
 
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Abe Lincoln will always be remembered for his determination against reactionaries ... the southern people never wanted secession, only a smathering of deceitful zealots.

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I'm all for secessionist movements. The interesting thinking is how to achieve the population transfers in a peaceful manner.
 
I'm all for secessionist movements. The interesting thinking is how to achieve the population transfers in a peaceful manner.

Do you really believe secession would change anything?

And further, do you think the USG is worried about fighting you?

Each state's national guard unit would be activated and destroy any rebellion before the Army even had a chance to gear up.

In other words the JV would take care of you LOL
 
1 in 4? That is a remarkable metric and a testament to just how far Obama has driven this once respected country down the shitter. Nice going nutjobs of the Obama brigade

-Geaux

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(Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Exclusive Angry with Washington 1 in 4 Americans open to secession Reuters

Sometimes the stupidity of Conservatives is amusing, other times dangerous.

Obviously reading comprehension among conservatives is also in question, o.p. is a case in point.

1 in 4 Americans want secession based on a poll of 8,952 people...conservative arithmetic.
Rural Western states favor this idiocy???...this seems to ring a bell.
Oh yeah, the idiot free loader who wanted to feed his herds on govt land without paying and then telling Black people how slavery taught them a work skill.
 
I'm all for secessionist movements. The interesting thinking is how to achieve the population transfers in a peaceful manner.

Do you really believe secession would change anything?

And further, do you think the USG is worried about fighting you?

Each state's national guard unit would be activated and destroy any rebellion before the Army even had a chance to gear up.

In other words the JV would take care of you LOL

Every government that's ever been overthrown has had a the winning hand in terms of military power up until the moment that they didn't.

The problem is not lone kooks or even militias, the problem is when a majority want to overthrow the order.
 
I'm all for secessionist movements. The interesting thinking is how to achieve the population transfers in a peaceful manner.

Do you really believe secession would change anything?

And further, do you think the USG is worried about fighting you?

Each state's national guard unit would be activated and destroy any rebellion before the Army even had a chance to gear up.

In other words the JV would take care of you LOL

Every government that's ever been overthrown has had a the winning hand in terms of military power up until the moment that they didn't.

The problem is not lone kooks or even militias, the problem is when a majority want to overthrow the order.

This is true, but not to the degree that US military has today.
 
I'd be open to secession depending on what the seceding entity has in mind as a future government. Doesn't necessarily mean it would be better.
 
I'm all for secessionist movements. The interesting thinking is how to achieve the population transfers in a peaceful manner.

Do you really believe secession would change anything?

And further, do you think the USG is worried about fighting you?

Each state's national guard unit would be activated and destroy any rebellion before the Army even had a chance to gear up.

In other words the JV would take care of you LOL

Every government that's ever been overthrown has had a the winning hand in terms of military power up until the moment that they didn't.

The problem is not lone kooks or even militias, the problem is when a majority want to overthrow the order.

This is true, but not to the degree that US military has today.

Having 25% believing that secession is a better path forward is not something that should be dismissed lightly. It's only going to get worse. The die has been cast. We're on auto-pilot now. Crack up in inevitable. The only question is when it goes down.
 

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