CDZ American Muslim's and Assimilation

What should muslims in America do in your opinion to be considered fully assimilated?

Become citizens?
Dress differently?
Build more mosques?
Get a CCW permit?
Vote?
None of the above. Social scientists rely on four primary benchmarks to assess immigrant assimilation: Socioeconomic status, geographic distribution, second language attainment, and intermarriage.

From your question, you seem to be assuming that all Muslims are immigrants. However the fact is 27% of Muslims in the US are native born citizens and about 15% are converts from other religions. So your questions do not apply to most these people because they are assimilated.

On various measures of integration, immigrant Muslims score fairly well. A Pew study from 2011 found that 15% who are married or living with someone have a spouse of a different faith. This may sound low, but it is higher than the intermarriage rate for American Jews at a comparable moment in their history, and above that of modern Mormons. They also have a higher rate of geographic distribution than Jewish immigrants. Economically, they are as likely to have an income of above $100,000 as native born Americans. All considered most Muslims are well integrated

You seem to be neglecting the fact that Muslims come from a number of countries with different cultures, languages, and socioeconomic backgrounds. For example Muslims from India are much more likely to speak English than from Arab countries and generally assimilate faster. Asking what Muslims should do to be be considered assimilated is like asking what Catholics should do.

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...-better-america-europe-islamic-yet-integrated
 
Now you are talking in circles.

Of course people want immigrates to assimilate.

But exactly how do you want muslims to achieve assimilation?

What specific steps do they need to take? ..... :cool:

First thing is to condemn EVERY muslim terrorist attack, by getting rid of such organizations as CAIR (the UNINDICTED Co-conspirator of the first WTC disaster) and having an organization that promotes muslim's WANTING to be American's, instead of being muslim-American's. It works the same way for African-American's. Mexican-American's and all other hyphenated American's. WE are supposed to be one, and promoting what you WERE is not conducive to a harmonious country.

American's of Italian decent also had a problem with the MAFIA not so long ago. They handled it by condemning those that were in that organization and with working with Federal agencies to RID THEMSELVES of the stigma associated with that organization.... muslim's have not done that...why?

Italian's also learned the language wanting their children to BECOME Americanized.Your RELIGION prevents you from doing this....time to rethink YOUR religious beliefs when in a new country, UNLESS you are here to TRANSFORM US into what you people believe...If so, get the F*** out of this country and go destroy Europe!
 
Get out of closed communities.
Follow Zuhdi Jasser's ideas.
I'm not aware of any "closed" muslim communities? Although there is a gated community down the street from my house that only rich white people live in.

In my opinion Zuhdi Jasser is .... :cuckoo:
I think clusters is better term than communities. Muslim immigrants, like Christians, Hindus, and other faiths cluster together with family, sponsors, and those that speech their language and come from their home country or region. You would be no more likely to find Indonesian Muslims living with Arab Muslims than you would South Korean Buddhist living with Chinese Buddhist.

The thing you have to understand about Muslims immigrants is they come from different countries, cultures, speak different languages, are of different races, and vary greatly in socioeconomic status, educational level, and their degree of commitment to their religion. When you use the word Muslim, you're describing 1.6 billion people that live in 140 nations, speech almost every language on earth, have vastly different cultures and even vary in their religious beliefs.

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Bottom line...you came here to be an American. If you can't, go back. If you can, go all in. Work, educate the kids, love your neighbor. Condemn the radicals among you.
 
America is just a geographical location, a continent. There is no necessary conduct to be considered American except taking care of the land and all living creatures.
 
Assimilation is a two-way street.

And slowly but surely, American culture is being transformed by Islamic teaching and morals. ..... :cool:
Not at all. And religious cleansing is becoming a talking point. Accept religious toleration and you are fine.
 
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Many Muslims are assimilating just fine.

The rest will learn how or go away.
 
What should muslims in America do in your opinion to be considered fully assimilated?

Become citizens?
Dress differently?
Build more mosques?
Get a CCW permit?
Vote?
becoming a citizen would be the norm

don't beat your kids to death for talking to other people, would be a good start
understand that our laws supersede yours and if you commit a crime enforcing your laws you will be punished. accept that and stop bitching like you didn't know it was coming

and Shut The Fuck Up about bacon! If you are offended by the smell or a poster of bacon, keep it to your pussified self
 
"American Muslim's and Assimilation"

Muslim Americans born and raised in the United States don’t need to ‘assimilate,’ any more than Catholic Americans or Jewish Americans.

Muslims coming to the United States to live as LPRA are expected to obey the laws of the United States; what constitutes ‘assimilation’ is different for each individual, and is not an issue related solely to Muslim immigrants.

It is assumed that all persons immigrating to the United States do so to enjoy the freedom and opportunity unique to this country, and should not be subject to prejudgment based solely on race, religion, or national origin.
 
Some folks won't be happy until we all dress the same, look the same, act the same and smell the same...Looks like them kind of folks could never be happy, since it has never been that whey..
 
What should muslims in America do in your opinion to be considered fully assimilated?

Become citizens?
Dress differently?
Build more mosques?
Get a CCW permit?
Vote?

Did you create this thread to be inflammatory or were you serious in asking the questions above? There is nothing about being a member of any religious denomination that is inextricably correlated to or causal to being any kind of American.

Red:
Full assimilation requires this of anyone who would be fully assimilated into the U.S.

Blue:
??? Really? Surely you listed that in jest....

Green:
  • What does building a mosque or any other house of worship have to do with being fully assimilated American?
  • What does carrying weapons have to do with being a fully assimilated American?
  • If voting be an act that makes one "fully assimilated," a lot of folks belonging to all religions represented in the U.S. populace are not fully assimilated even though they were born in the U.S. and have a century or more's worth of ancestors also born in the U.S.
 
America is just a geographical location, a continent. There is no necessary conduct to be considered American except taking care of the land and all living creatures.


Wrong

What is wrong? Would you care to expand on your statement?







America has never been just a place. It is an idea, and being an American means embracing American principles and ideals.
 
America is just a geographical location, a continent. There is no necessary conduct to be considered American except taking care of the land and all living creatures.


Wrong

What is wrong? Would you care to expand on your statement?







America has never been just a place. It is an idea, and being an American means embracing American principles and ideals.


America is many places and even a maker of places, therefore also eligible as a single unique place of its own.

A geography, a locus, a continent, these are all ideas of different natures, represented summarily by the simple idea of place.

A place can be an aggregation of skills and records, a physical or intellectual measured establishment, or a sensory orientation, in respect to geography, locus and continents accordingly.

I do agree that taking care of the land and all living creatures is not an autonomic or automatic function immediately fulfilled by a wish, but indeed requires precise principles, commitment and discipline to be effectuated and maintained.
 
Did you create this thread to be inflammatory or were you serious in asking the questions above? There is nothing about being a member of any religious denomination that is inextricably correlated to or causal to being any kind of American.
There was a thread the day before I created this one, accusing muslims of not assimilating into the American way of life.

So I began to ponder as to what things people think that muslims must change in order to be considered fully assimilated by their fellow citizens. ..... :cool:
 
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Did you create this thread to be inflammatory or were you serious in asking the questions above? There is nothing about being a member of any religious denomination that is inextricably correlated to or causal to being any kind of American.
There was a thread the day before I created this one, accusing muslims of not assimilating into the American way of life.

So I began to ponder as to what things muslims must change in order to be considered fully assimilated by their fellow citizens. ..... :cool:

I see. TY for the clarification.
 

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