All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[P F Tinmore]

This could get very interesting.

It’s Time to Take Palestine v. United States of America Seriously

This brings us to the crux of the case. If Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem, how can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there? Given that the U.S. acknowledged – until 6 December 2017 – that no state had sovereignty over Jerusalem, how could the U.S. suddenly and unilaterally decide that Israel had sovereignty over the city and open an embassy there absent a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine that would resolve the final status of the city? To whom did U.S. Ambassador David Friedman present his letter of credence when he moved into the new U.S. embassy on 14 May?

According to the VCDR a diplomatic mission may only be established on the territory of “the receiving state.” This implies that the receiving state has sovereignty. Instead the U.S. has put its embassy in disputed territory, the eastern half of which is also occupied territory.

It’s Time to Take Palestine v. United States of America Seriously

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

What particular law are you citing here.?

You do this quite frequently. You make these sweeping assumptions and then build your case around it.

... → If Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem, how can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there?

(COMMENT)

The location of a diplomatic mission and the issue of sovereignty, are not connected.

The Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Interior and Finance, as well as Parliment, The Supreme Court, and the Prime Minister's Office are all located in Jerusalem (Government Campus). It only makes sense that you put your diplomatic mission in the same location as the government facilities you do business with.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

What particular law are you citing here.?

You do this quite frequently. You make these sweeping assumptions and then build your case around it.

... → If Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem, how can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there?

(COMMENT)

The location of a diplomatic mission and the issue of sovereignty, are not connected.

The Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Interior and Finance, as well as Parliment, The Supreme Court, and the Prime Minister's Office are all located in Jerusalem (Government Campus). It only makes sense that you put your diplomatic mission in the same location as the government facilities you do business with.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only makes sense that you put your diplomatic mission in the same location as the government facilities you do business with.

You are missing the point. Or just deflecting.

 

[Shusha]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

What particular law are you citing here.?

You do this quite frequently. You make these sweeping assumptions and then build your case around it.

... → If Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem, how can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there?

(COMMENT)

The location of a diplomatic mission and the issue of sovereignty, are not connected.

The Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Interior and Finance, as well as Parliment, The Supreme Court, and the Prime Minister's Office are all located in Jerusalem (Government Campus). It only makes sense that you put your diplomatic mission in the same location as the government facilities you do business with.

Most Respectfully,
R

He's using the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations to try to prove that the US is unable to put a diplomatic mission in place where no sovereignty is held and using Israel's acceptance of UNGA 181 as "proof" that Israel has no sovereignty over Jerusalem (that it is under international sovereignty) and has consented to ICJ jurisprudence.

Its a tall stack of IFs on a very shaky foundation, imo.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

What are you talking about √ deflection?

It only makes sense that you put your diplomatic mission in the same location as the government facilities you do business with.

You are missing the point. Or just deflecting.

(COMMENT)

You put your Embassy were the business is. There is no "just deflecting."

Whether of not YOU recognize the sovereignty is of no relevance. The is no International Law violation.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

How can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there? What law is the US breaking... The Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (VCDR), does not preclude the establishment of an Embassy anywhere mutually agreed upon.

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Q:

This could get very interesting.

It’s Time to Take Palestine v. United States of America Seriously

This brings us to the crux of the case. If Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem, how can the U.S. lawfully carry out the functions of a diplomatic mission there? Given that the U.S. acknowledged – until 6 December 2017 – that no state had sovereignty over Jerusalem, how could the U.S. suddenly and unilaterally decide that Israel had sovereignty over the city and open an embassy there absent a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine that would resolve the final status of the city? To whom did U.S. Ambassador David Friedman present his letter of credence when he moved into the new U.S. embassy on 14 May?

According to the VCDR a diplomatic mission may only be established on the territory of “the receiving state.” This implies that the receiving state has sovereignty. Instead, the U.S. has put its embassy in disputed territory, the eastern half of which is also occupied territory.

It’s Time to Take Palestine v. United States of America Seriously

(COMMENT)

I think you might be cofusion the meaning of "receiving state." In Israel - American Diplomatic Relations, the US is the "sending state" and Israel is the "receiving state."

The US did not decide "that Israel had sovereignty over the city." The US recognized that the Israeli Head of State (Executive Branch), the Knesset (Legislative Branch), and the Israeli Supreme Court (Judicial Branch) are all located in Jerusalem. You can debate and disapprove all you want, but the central theme of the Government Campus is that Jerusalem is the location of the functional centers of the State of Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fighting the double standard: Palestinians file case to demolish illegal settlement homes

Two Ramallah-area Palestinian villages — Deir Dibwan and Anata — have filed a case in the Israeli High Court, asking Israeli authorities to demolish illegal structures in the Israeli settlement of Kfar Adumim — the same settlement which has ceaselessly pushed for the state’s decision to demolish Khan al-Ahmar.

The villagers are arguing for the demolition of some 120 homes and structures and four outposts in Kfar Adumim which were built without permits from Israeli authorities and lie outside of the planned borders of the settlement.

The structures in question were built on privately owned land belonging to residents of Deir Dibwan and Anata.

Fighting the double standard: Palestinians file case to demolish illegal settlement homes

 

[P F Tinmore]

How the BDS movement convinced ‘Transparent’ creator Jill Soloway to shoot in L.A. instead of Israel

 

[rylah]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

No missile defense system is invulnerable. However, the iron dome system is effective and being improved.

The Israeli defense system has measures in addition to iron dome that address Islamic terrorism.



Many may not know this but “Israeli airstrikes in Gaza” derives from the Latin term “nip it in the bud”.

 

[P F Tinmore]

30+ NYU Student Groups Pledge Non-cooperation with NYU Tel Aviv

We, the undersigned student clubs, pledge to not participate in or apply to study abroad programs hosted at NYU Tel Aviv. Our participation would render us complicit in the state of Israel’s targeted discrimination against activists and Palestinian and Muslim students. In January 2018, Israel released a list of twenty organizations whose members are denied entry into the country because of their endorsement of the Palestinian call for BDS (Boycotting, Divesting from, and Sanctioning Israel).

The University, as an adoptee of AAUP principles of academic freedom, has the duty to uphold these standards throughout the Global Network University (GNU) and be proactive in addressing any violations of these principles. NYU must upgrade its commitment to ensure equal access to GNU sites and to appeal decisions of entry within the Global Network. Until then, the members of our clubs will not study away and/or visit NYU Tel Aviv.

30+ NYU Student Groups Pledge Non-cooperation with NYU Tel Aviv

 

[P F Tinmore]

Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron

Israeli soldiers invaded, Monday, Palestinian agricultural lands in Khirbat Kharouf area, uprooted 200 olive trees, in addition to uprooting 13 Dunams of farmlands, in Beit Ula town, west of Hebron, in the southern part of the occupied West Bank.

Hashem Badarin, the head of the Palestinian Farmers Services Department in Hebron, said the soldiers invaded Khirbit Kharouf, located west of Beit Ula, and uprooted 200 Palestinian olive trees, which were planted ten years ago.

He added that the soldiers also destroyed and removed the fence which surrounded the land.

» Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron– IMEMC News

 

[rylah]

Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron

Israeli soldiers invaded, Monday, Palestinian agricultural lands in Khirbat Kharouf area, uprooted 200 olive trees, in addition to uprooting 13 Dunams of farmlands, in Beit Ula town, west of Hebron, in the southern part of the occupied West Bank.

Hashem Badarin, the head of the Palestinian Farmers Services Department in Hebron, said the soldiers invaded Khirbit Kharouf, located west of Beit Ula, and uprooted 200 Palestinian olive trees, which were planted ten years ago.

He added that the soldiers also destroyed and removed the fence which surrounded the land.

» Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron– IMEMC News

Where are the soldiers? Where are the 200 trees?
Maybe You can show me this "Khirbit Kharouf" on the map?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Writer Abulhawa is detained indefinitely at Ben Gurion, appealing Israel’s deportation order

Update, Nov. 2: Overnight, a judge ruled that Susan Abulhawa should be deported. Abulhawa is appealing the decision. Her associates do not know when that appeal will be heard. She is due to speak at the Palestine Literature Festival tomorrow.

Original post, Nov. 1: The Palestinian-American writer Susan Abulhawa was detained at Ben Gurion airport this morning as she entered Israel en route to a literary festival in Palestine. Israeli authorities sought to deport her on the grounds that she did not have a visa. She has appealed the deportation and is in a detention center, according to a friend who has spoken with Abulhawa’s lawyer.

Abulhawa, 48, is scheduled to appear at the Palestinian Literature Festival, November 3-7. She is a guest of the British Council, a sponsor of the festival. The Council has stood by her throughout the deportation attempt, says her friend Linda Hanna. The Kenyon Institute, a British research group, is also representing Abulhawa.

Writer Abulhawa is detained indefinitely at Ben Gurion, appealing Israel’s deportation order

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Occupation of the American Mind.

 

[Hollie]

The Occupation of the American Mind.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

 

[USAF 2023]

Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron

Israeli soldiers invaded, Monday, Palestinian agricultural lands in Khirbat Kharouf area, uprooted 200 olive trees, in addition to uprooting 13 Dunams of farmlands, in Beit Ula town, west of Hebron, in the southern part of the occupied West Bank.

Hashem Badarin, the head of the Palestinian Farmers Services Department in Hebron, said the soldiers invaded Khirbit Kharouf, located west of Beit Ula, and uprooted 200 Palestinian olive trees, which were planted ten years ago.

He added that the soldiers also destroyed and removed the fence which surrounded the land.

» Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron– IMEMC News

Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron

Israeli soldiers invaded, Monday, Palestinian agricultural lands in Khirbat Kharouf area, uprooted 200 olive trees, in addition to uprooting 13 Dunams of farmlands, in Beit Ula town, west of Hebron, in the southern part of the occupied West Bank.

Hashem Badarin, the head of the Palestinian Farmers Services Department in Hebron, said the soldiers invaded Khirbit Kharouf, located west of Beit Ula, and uprooted 200 Palestinian olive trees, which were planted ten years ago.

He added that the soldiers also destroyed and removed the fence which surrounded the land.

» Soldiers Uproot 200 Olive Trees, 13 Dunams of Farmland, near Hebron– IMEMC News

Even if it were true, who cares? Look at the destruction Jordan did to the Jewish Quarter of the Old City including the destruction of Jewish Cemetaries, digging grave sites up and using them , etc.Did I hear the words “ International Law?”

 

[P F Tinmore]

‘Worst fear came true’: Israel detains young Palestinian man for 20 months in effort to expel him to Brazil

It was the moment he had been dreading his entire life. Maen Abu Hafez, 24, and his friends’ car was stopped by Israeli soldiers at a flying checkpoint on their way home from Tulkarem city to his hometown, Jenin, in the northern occupied West Bank.

When the soldiers asked for their IDs — which Palestinians must carry on them at all times in case they are stopped at a checkpoint — Abu Hafez told them he didn’t have one. Within a few hours he was at an Israeli detention center.

Two days later, he was taken to the Givon Prison in central Israel — a prison that holds mostly undocumented asylum seekers from Africa — where he has been held for 20 months as an “illegal alien,” while the Israeli government waits to deport him to Brazil.

Abu Hafez was born in Brazil to a Palestinian father, from the Jenin Refugee Camp, and a Brazilian mother. His family of six moved to the Jenin Camp when he was three years old, where he has lived ever since. Neither he, his two brothers, nor his mother, have Palestinian ID cards, giving them no legal status in the occupied territory.

“There is no proof that he has any legal status in Brazil and the Brazilian authorities are, rightly, refusing to take in the young man against his will,” Israeli Human Rights Organization Hamoked, who is handling Abu Hafez’s case, said in an October press release.

‘Worst fear came true’: Israel detains young Palestinian man for 20 months in effort to expel him to Brazil

 

[rylah]

‘Worst fear came true’: Israel detains young Palestinian man for 20 months in effort to expel him to Brazil

It was the moment he had been dreading his entire life. Maen Abu Hafez, 24, and his friends’ car was stopped by Israeli soldiers at a flying checkpoint on their way home from Tulkarem city to his hometown, Jenin, in the northern occupied West Bank.

When the soldiers asked for their IDs — which Palestinians must carry on them at all times in case they are stopped at a checkpoint — Abu Hafez told them he didn’t have one. Within a few hours he was at an Israeli detention center.

Two days later, he was taken to the Givon Prison in central Israel — a prison that holds mostly undocumented asylum seekers from Africa — where he has been held for 20 months as an “illegal alien,” while the Israeli government waits to deport him to Brazil.

Abu Hafez was born in Brazil to a Palestinian father, from the Jenin Refugee Camp, and a Brazilian mother. His family of six moved to the Jenin Camp when he was three years old, where he has lived ever since. Neither he, his two brothers, nor his mother, have Palestinian ID cards, giving them no legal status in the occupied territory.

“There is no proof that he has any legal status in Brazil and the Brazilian authorities are, rightly, refusing to take in the young man against his will,” Israeli Human Rights Organization Hamoked, who is handling Abu Hafez’s case, said in an October press release.

‘Worst fear came true’: Israel detains young Palestinian man for 20 months in effort to expel him to Brazil

Let me understand, the guy was born in Brazil and then his family moved him into a refugee camp without registering for 20 years??