ALL drugs would be legal - if libs had their way

[wihosa]

The one with the most mexicans.

Racist much?

Just recognizing that mexican parties have a disproportionate high body count. Whether it is beer pot or something else, someone is gonna die.

Got any stats to back up your assertion or are you just basing your statement on your own preconceived ideas of what "Mexicans" do?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I support the legalization of all drugs.

But I'm certainly not under the delusion that the majority of liberals agree with me.

 

[wihosa]

I support the legalization of all drugs.

But I'm certainly not under the delusion that the majority of liberals agree with me.

Well here's one that does. After all back in my day we understood that the only dope worth shooting was Richard Nixon. It's a joke, libs would never shoot any ody!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

At one time in America all drugs were legal.

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[Mr. Shaman]

Praise the Lord, and.....

....PASS THE BONG!!!!

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[hazlnut]

stuff like meth, crack cocaine, heroin, you name it

Legalization of weed is a nec first step ......................

This thread is so retarded, I won't even call it a straw man.

Even that fallacy requires some intelligence... you have to know the real argument to distort it.

 

[TNHarley]

stuff like meth, crack cocaine, heroin, you name it

Legalization of weed is a nec first step ......................

So would rape, polygamy, incest, murder by minorities and killing of children with a shotgun

 

[FA_Q2]

a bad trait

Hell no... A good one. Respectable.

Not to be confused with my agreement. Like yourself I have done several drugs as a teenager... Pretty much everything under the sun that I could get my hands on. Well... Except the mushrooms. I couldn't ... Slimy fuck'n... That wasn't for me.

But pot... I did it several times... Six, seven... Something like that. And not once did I enjoy it. I kept trying it because I knew a lot of people who loved it... I can't for the life of me figure out why people would pay to be depressed. Horrible... God awful... So damn tired... Too tired to sleep. Hungry... Too lazy to get up and get something to eat... I just don't get it.

Coke... I've done coke... I fucking loved it. I loved it so much that I have absolutely no doubt it would be the death of me if I ever lost myself with it. So I'll never do it again... Ever.

But to be clear... FOR ME... Legality wasn't an issue when I did them. If I wanted to do them now legality wouldn't be an issue now either. I just don't like and/or can't afford to do them. Whither is financial or I just don't want to fuck up my family.

But that's MY truth. If yours requires others to keep you on the straight an narrow... I don't fault you for YOUR truth. It's respectable. It's just different for me.

Slimy!!!! Wrong dealer man!!

I tried shrooms but I was in Amsterdam. Bought the fuckers in a storefront with 3 options – green purple and white (boxes, not mushrooms). Interesting to say the least but I have to agree with your assessment in general. Crack and meth are fucking scary because they are so damn good and others actually are happy with you at first. Never understood the draw of pot. Makes you slow and dumb and that is not a good feeling if you ask me.

I would have no problem with the legalization of marijuana. It has less dependency than alcohol and is no more intoxicating than alcohol.

This "medical marijuana" crap is patently ridiculous and wide open to abuse. Why is "medical marijuana" legislated and managed completely differently than every other medication? The whole thing is a farce.

I think once a breathalyzer or field sobriety test for pot is developed, it will be legalized.

As for drugs like meth or cocaine or heroine, their dependency rates and intoxication effects are much worse than alcohol. Therefore, their legalizaton is problematical for me.

Treatment is already as readily available for drug addiction today as it would be if all drugs were legal. If you want to make treatment even more available, drugs do not have to be legalized to accomplish that.

You don’t need to legalize to treat BUT treatment is more likely when you are not actively hiding your addiction from the entire world. That really is not the point anyway; legalizing does not get rid of the effects of drugs, IT GET RID OF THE EFFECTS OF DEALERS/SMUGGLERS. Crime is associated with anything sold on the black market and that entails some pretty horrific shit. Legalizing also allows for basic regulation. How many die because they get a bad batch or get addicted because their drugs are cut with stronger, more addictive drugs? Want to ensure that pot keeps selling, add something with a little more kick and you know your customers are coming back.

You cannot control anything illegal by the very nature of illegalization. All you do is drive it underground. The real way to control drugs is keeping them legal where you can regulate. Of course, taxing them for the benefit or anti-drug education and treatment is just a nice kicker to the whole deal. The drug war against ALL drugs has failed and is not accomplishing anything.

 

[FA_Q2]

Pat Robertson Wants To Legalize Marijuana

This is what I don't get about conservatives. Normally their stance is that people have to be responsible for their mistakes. And the war on drugs is an epitome of government waste -- spending billions of taxpayer dollars to make a business case for organized crime.

But that logic breaks when it comes to drugs -- they want a nanny state to hold you hands in this case.

In this instance, the conservative vale of small government and freedom is clashing with the conservative value of morality. It always confused me why they are unable to combine these ideals. Really, conservatives in general need to abandon the concept of enforcing their morality on others; it goes completely against everything else that conservatives stand for.

 

[editec]

ALL drugs would be legal - if libs had their way

Well they might not be legal, but the people abusing them would certainly would not be criminalized.

Big difference there, mate.

Drug abuse (alone) ought never have become a crime.

 

[Toronado3800]

stuff like meth, crack cocaine, heroin, you name it

Legalization of weed is a nec first step ......................

I guess I am late to the party but since the Constitution says nothing about drugs I always felt it was pretty liberal for anything to be federally illegal. Now states I guess being independant countries with the right to leave the union can do whatever they want I suppose so their laws are neither constitutionally conservative or liberal.

 

[Borillar]

stuff like meth, crack cocaine, heroin, you name it

Legalization of weed is a nec first step ......................

If by "libs" you mean libertarians, then yes. If you mean liberals, then no.

 

[Smilodonfatalis]

Yes. All drugs should be legal.

That's not a liberal position...that's a liberterian position.

The Government has no right to tell people what kind of chemicals they can voluntarily put in their own bodies.

 

[Toronado3800]

Yes. All drugs should be legal.

That's not a liberal position...that's a liberterian position.

The Government has no right to tell people what kind of chemicals they can voluntarily put in their own bodies.

Parts of me agree with this. Honestly I could care less about alcohol and pot being legal.

Due to human failings though neither pure socialism nir pure capitalism work. Neither do purely legal drugs.

My views are let folks hang themselves with the legal drugs and pot. Get caught driving drunk or high first time, 25% of your yearly income and a month in the workhouse.

Second time a year in jail no questions asked.

Some folks should smoke instead of drink so I'd consider ppl losing the "right" to drink or smoke a possibility. I have no patience for angry dogs or angry drunks.

 

[there4eyeM]

People can choose to have guns, which have a capacity for danger to others, and not have a choice to imbibe marijuana, which presents no risk to another?

 

[Katzndogz]

A drugged society is a particularly compliant society. In A Brave New World, drug use was mandatory. The drugged do not question, they are not inquisitive. They will blindly do whatever the drug supplier tells them to do. They are perfect democrats.

 

[there4eyeM]

So, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany employed drugs?

 

[Skull Pilot]

stuff like meth, crack cocaine, heroin, you name it

Legalization of weed is a nec first step ......................

Actually, alcohol, a legal drug, is the real gateway drug.

 

[Katzndogz]

So, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany employed drugs?

Nazi Germany had devotion. They didn't need drugs. It's a question of whether the Soviet Union could have done everything they did had not alcoholism been so prevalent. That's not the question. In a drugged society, there is no opposition. No one need use force or threats. There doesn't need to be a KGB or Brownshirts. The people will sell their children for the next hit or fix. The drug user invariably described the drug dealer as a good friend. Someone who really cares about them and wants them to be happy. The government can occupy that place and wants to.

Even something as simple as marijuana, the addict will commonly choose the dealer who provides pot over a spouse, child or parent that wants them to stop. Make pot heroin, cocaine or meth, and there is a captive audience willing to do whatever they are told if it means a supply.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Never understood the draw of pot. Makes you slow and dumb and that is not a good feeling if you ask me.

You (pretty-obviously) don't know much about varieties of Pot....which seems kind of odd, for someone who claims they were in Amsterdam, Skippy.