A Synopsis of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

[Rigby5]

[ Islam is the religion of Peace. Just like Christianity. Let us take a look at just the 19th century peaceful living between those religions and Jews. This is just the 1830s. Look at the rest online. And then look at the timeline from the first century on the other link. You know the truth. Tell the truth. ]

1830s​

1830The Persian Jewish population of Tabriz, Iran is attacked by a mob, resulting in most of the Jewish community either being killed or fleeing.[3]

1830The Jews of Shiraz are forced to convert to Islam.

1831The prominent French-Canadian politician Louis-Joseph Papineau sponsored a law which granted full equivalent political rights to Jews in Lower Canada, twenty-seven years before anywhere else in the British Empire.

1832Partly because of the work of Ezekiel Hart, a law was passed that guaranteed Jews the same political rights and freedoms as Christians in Canada.

1833Clemens Brentano published The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ According to the Meditations of Anne Catherine Emmerich. The "Dolorous Passion" is claimed to reveal a "clear antisemitic strain throughout",[4] with Brentano writing that Emmerich believed that "Jews ... strangled Christian children and used their blood for all sorts of suspicious and diabolical practices."[5]

1834The 1834 looting of Safed was a month-long attack on the Jewish population of Safed by local Arab and Druze villagers. It was full of large scale looting, as well as the killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of many homes and synagogues. Before the attacks Jews made up over 50% of the population, but many of them fled to nearby cities which reduced their presence drastically.

1834Jewish heroine and martyr Sol Hachuel is publicly decapitated at 17 years old in Fez, Morocco. She is executed for refusing to convert to Islam.

1835Oppressive constitution for the Jews issued by Czar Nicholas I of Russia.

1838The 1838 Druze attack on Safed was a plunder of the Jewish community of Safed by the local Druze during the Druze revolt.

1839Forty-plus Persian Jews are killed and the entire Jewish community of Mashhad is forced to convert to Islam in the Allahdad.[6] Many of them practised Judaism in secret, which led to the Mashhadi Jews, whom today number in the thousands.

Timeline of antisemitism in the 19th century - Wikipedia

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Timeline of antisemitism - Wikipedia

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Entirely false garbage.
Not one bit of it is remotely true.
Not only have Jews never been abused anywhere or any time in the Mideast, but there are over 30,000 Jews living in Tehran alone right now, and Ahmadinejad is Jewish.

 

[Rigby5]

It is not about demographics.

The indigenous people in the New world were more numerous than the invading Europeans. They ended up a minority all over the New world later on due to endless immigration of Europeans and others.


The Jews are the indigenous First Nation of the Land of Israel. They have a right, like the Kurds, and many other indigenous people in the ME who became outnumbered by the endless Arab migrations into those lands.

Nonsense.

The reason the Europeans surpassed the native in North America is that 90% of the natives died from epidemics the Europeans were immune to, like Smallpox, diphtheria, flu, etc.

The Jews were never native to anywhere, and were traditionally nomadic.
There is not a single trace of any Hebrew construction anywhere.

The Hebrew tribes did invade the Land of Canaan around 1000 BC. but the Canaanites and millions of others had already been there since about 8000 BC.

And there are NO Arab migrations except the Bedouin nomads.
Arabs do not believe in migrations, and stick to the land where the bones of their ancestors are buried.
The Arabs in places like Morrocco, Libya, Egypt, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, etc., are all native to those locations for over 4000 years, and did not migrate. They are the single most sedentary groups in existence.
There was a unifying effort by Mohammed and his followers from 640 AD to 1200 AD, but after 1200 AD, the Asiatic Mongols, Moghuls, Turks, etc., took over and the Arabs had nothing to do with it any more at all.

 

[surada]

Sorry, but that is a revised history. Revised by Muslims and Arabs to deny the Jews any rights to sovereignty over any part of their ancient Jewish Homeland.

What you are saying, without realizing it, is that each and every country in the New World rightfully belongs to the Europeans who "discovered" the land and colonized them, becoming the largest number of inhabitants on the lands since 1492.

All the way from the Babylonians, Greeks, Assyrians, Romans, Byzantine, Muslim Arabs, Crusaders, Turkish Ottomans and the British, they are ALL invaders and conquerors of the land of the Jewish Homeland.


As you may notice, Arabs are another group which invaded, conquered and started migrating into the land.

And back then, when the Muslim Arabs invaded, they acknowledged that the land belonged to the Children of Israel, the Jews, and the Caliph even reopened Jerusalem for the Jews.

It does not make it Arab land, Muslim land, or since 1964 - Palestinian Land, simply because Christian and Islamic hatred of Jews says that the Jews should never have sovereignty over their own ancient homeland.

Some Christians and Muslims seem to insist that Jews can only be second citizens anywhere in the world, and not sovereign of their own destiny in their own homeland.

Muslims consider any and all land conquered by Islam, will always be Muslim land. Which is what since 1920 a Jew hating clan, the Al Husseini - Arafat was one of them, started riots against Jews. And the leader went all the way to Iraq in 1941 to start riots against Jews over there. Just because they were Jews.

Please educate yourself. It is very important to know what is actually what, and not continue to spread revised history of that part of the world, revised by Muslims to deny Jews their rights.


You may find articles on the history of the Mandate of Palestine in the following threads:

The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

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The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

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The NEWEST Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

MYTH The Zionists were colonialist tools of Western imperialism. FACT “Colonialism means living by exploiting others,” Yehoshafat Harkabi has written. “But what could be further from colonialism than the ide- alism of city-dwelling Jews who strive to become farmers and laborers and to live by...

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Arabs began migrating north to the Levant and Mesopotamia 10,000 years ago in waves as the glaciers began their slow retreat and Arabia became more arid.


Much later Abraham was a Canaanite from Urfa near Haran.

You are likely both Arab and Canaanite if you are from Israel

 

[surada]

Nonsense.

The reason the Europeans surpassed the native in North America is that 90% of the natives died from epidemics the Europeans were immune to, like Smallpox, diphtheria, flu, etc.

The Jews were never native to anywhere, and were traditionally nomadic.
There is not a single trace of any Hebrew construction anywhere.

The Hebrew tribes did invade the Land of Canaan around 1000 BC. but the Canaanites and millions of others had already been there since about 8000 BC.

And there are NO Arab migrations except the Bedouin nomads.
Arabs do not believe in migrations, and stick to the land where the bones of their ancestors are buried.
The Arabs in places like Morrocco, Libya, Egypt, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, etc., are all native to those locations for over 4000 years, and did not migrate. They are the single most sedentary groups in existence.
There was a unifying effort by Mohammed and his followers from 640 AD to 1200 AD, but after 1200 AD, the Asiatic Mongols, Moghuls, Turks, etc., took over and the Arabs had nothing to do with it any more at all.

The Marsh Arabs migrated from Eastern Saud Arabia 6000 years ago.

The Akkadians migrated from the Arabian peninsula... They predate the Jews as well.

 

[DGS49]

Basing your claim on a promise made by "god" a couple thousand years ago is legally preposterous. Accepting this claim would put the whole world into chaos, especially the America's. The Bottom line is the Herzl's description of a land with no people was false and, if you want to be honest, racist.

But how that applies to today's conflict is unclear, to say the least. One might observe that what we call "Ukraine" today was created by Nikita Kruschev in the 1950's, and yet "we" treat it as though it were a permanent thing for all time.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Arabs began migrating north to the Levant and Mesopotamia 10,000 years ago in waves as the glaciers began their slow retreat and Arabia became more arid.


Much later Abraham was a Canaanite from Urfa near Haran.

You are likely both Arab and Canaanite if you are from Israel

All debunked, again and again, in the thread about it where you could not prove one word you typed.

Stop antisemitism which you keep spreading with every post about the history of the Jews which you keep revising, according to the Arab sources you read.

Mind your own Irish and Dutch history.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Marsh Arabs migrated from Eastern Saud Arabia 6000 years ago.

The Akkadians migrated from the Arabian peninsula... They predate the Jews as well.

AND you cannot stay on topic.

Your answer is NOT part of the topic, there are the right threads for it.

A troll for those who hate Jews and want to destroy Israel. Revised history, nothing but revised history.

Sad, very sad

Stop the Judeophobia, antisemitism and Jew hatred you are spreading on the threads.

Stop inciting people against the Jewish people and their rights to their ancient homeland.


Learn something factual.

 

[surada]

All debunked, again and again, in the thread about it where you could not prove one word you typed.

Stop antisemitism which you keep spreading with every post about the history of the Jews which you keep revising, according to the Arab sources you read.

Mind your own Irish and Dutch history.

Lol. Every word I posted is true. I'm not antisemitic. Semite is a language group. The guy who studied the Marsh Arabs for 50 years used to lecture in Saudi Arabia.... Wilfred Thesiger. There's much more to history than just Jewish history. Why are you so ridiculously insecure?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Lol. Every word I posted is true. I'm not antisemitic. Semite is a language group. The guy who studied the Marsh Arabs for 50 years used to lecture in Saudi Arabia.... Wilfred Thesiger. There's much more to history than just Jewish history. Why are you so ridiculously insecure?

We Jews more than know that there were other histories in the area. We have never ignored or tried to wipe them out. And they are not around to say that they are from this nation or that Nation in Canaan, anymore than the Babylonians are in Mesopotamia. They are gone. And they were not Arabs, no matter how many lies Arabs and people who love Arabs try to destroy the history of that area.

The ones wiping out, and only Jewish history, are people like Thesiger and you who will believe anything against the Jews who ARE the indigenous people of the land and NOT the Arabs.

Insecure is the word for you since you cannot find ONE evidence of the Arabs being on the land 10,000 years ago, or at ANY time until the Muslims invaded and took over in the 7th century.


You are against Jews. You were taught to be against them being the indigenous people of the Land of Israel. THAT is Judeophobia, Antisemitism, dislike or hatred of Jews due to all the LIES you have chosen to believe in.



Saying that Jews do not belong on their Ancient Homeland IS Judeophobia. Whatever term one wishes to use. All this does is incite people as it is happening now and having more attacks on Jews then ever before as if they were responsible for Israel.

AGAIN, where exactly have all the Free Ukraine rallies been, and attacks by Ukranians or sympathizers been on Russians? Oh, right, people have not been indoctrinated to hate Russia or Ukraine as they have been indoctrinated to hate Israel due to the ENDLESS lies about Jews taking what belong to the invaders (Palestine means invaders, so guess who is the colonizer and who was colonized by Islam and Christianity for the past 2000 years ]

You choose to not notice but LIES KILL !!!!!


Lies about Jews, kill Jews !!!!

 

[surada]

We Jews more than know that there were other histories in the area. We have never ignored or tried to wipe them out. And they are not around to say that they are from this nation or that Nation in Canaan, anymore than the Babylonians are in Mesopotamia. They are gone. And they were not Arabs, no matter how many lies Arabs and people who love Arabs try to destroy the history of that area.

The ones wiping out, and only Jewish history, are people like Thesiger and you who will believe anything against the Jews who ARE the indigenous people of the land and NOT the Arabs.

Insecure is the word for you since you cannot find ONE evidence of the Arabs being on the land 10,000 years ago, or at ANY time until the Muslims invaded and took over in the 7th century.


You are against Jews. You were taught to be against them being the indigenous people of the Land of Israel. THAT is Judeophobia, Antisemitism, dislike or hatred of Jews due to all the LIES you have chosen to believe in.



Saying that Jews do not belong on their Ancient Homeland IS Judeophobia. Whatever term one wishes to use. All this does is incite people as it is happening now and having more attacks on Jews then ever before as if they were responsible for Israel.

AGAIN, where exactly have all the Free Ukraine rallies been, and attacks by Ukranians or sympathizers been on Russians? Oh, right, people have not been indoctrinated to hate Russia or Ukraine as they have been indoctrinated to hate Israel due to the ENDLESS lies about Jews taking what belong to the invaders (Palestine means invaders, so guess who is the colonizer and who was colonized by Islam and Christianity for the past 2000 years ]

You choose to not notice but LIES KILL !!!!!


Lies about Jews, kill Jews !!!!

Damn. Every minute of your life is collecting antisemitic news.

This is what the king of Jordan said in 1947.

As the Arabs see the Jews, by His Majesty King Abdullah - Balfour Project
The American Magazine November, 1947 Summary This appeal to the American people, written by King Abdullah, son of Sharif Hussein and grandfather of the current King of Jordan, appeared in the United States six months before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

In the article, King Abdullah disputes the...
balfourproject.org balfourproject.org

At the heart of the decades-long war between Israel and its Arab neighbors is this understanding of conflict's origin articulated in Abdullah's letter linked above:

The unimaginable persecution of the Jews was not done by the Arabs: it was done by a Christian nation in the West. The war which ruined Europe and made it almost impossible for these Jews to rehabilitate themselves was fought by the Christian nations of the West. The rich and empty portions of the earth belong, not to the Arabs, but to the Christian nations of the West.

And yet, to ease their consciences, these Christian nations of the West are asking Palestine—a poor and tiny Moslem country of the East—to accept the entire burden. “We have hurt these people terribly,” cries the West to the East. “Won’t you please take care of them for us?” We find neither logic nor justice in this. Are we therefore “cruel and heartless nationalists”?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Damn. Every minute of your life is collecting antisemitic news.

This is what the king of Jordan said in 1947.

As the Arabs see the Jews, by His Majesty King Abdullah - Balfour Project
The American Magazine November, 1947 Summary This appeal to the American people, written by King Abdullah, son of Sharif Hussein and grandfather of the current King of Jordan, appeared in the United States six months before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

In the article, King Abdullah disputes the...
balfourproject.org balfourproject.org

At the heart of the decades-long war between Israel and its Arab neighbors is this understanding of conflict's origin articulated in Abdullah's letter linked above:

The unimaginable persecution of the Jews was not done by the Arabs: it was done by a Christian nation in the West. The war which ruined Europe and made it almost impossible for these Jews to rehabilitate themselves was fought by the Christian nations of the West. The rich and empty portions of the earth belong, not to the Arabs, but to the Christian nations of the West.

And yet, to ease their consciences, these Christian nations of the West are asking Palestine—a poor and tiny Moslem country of the East—to accept the entire burden. “We have hurt these people terribly,” cries the West to the East. “Won’t you please take care of them for us?” We find neither logic nor justice in this. Are we therefore “cruel and heartless nationalists”?

His father wanted peace and made a Treaty with Israel for Peace. His son, this guy, does not want Peace with Israel because he is afraid of all of those who could kill him. His father had courage, his son does not.

And spare me the Arab written cries of "We poor victims".

Arabia, only, belongs to the Arabs. Outside of that, all the way to North Africa is stolen land. Stolen by the Muslims, and migrated endlessly by the Arabs.

No, there isn't one Jew hating bone in you. What a laugh. Maybe not your bones, but your blood got a very overdose of anti Jewish blood transferred to you.


You ARE an antisemite ( a term invented by a German Judeophobic Jew hater who thought it would be cute to change the terminology from Judeophobic to Antisemitic. Christians are something else, aren't they?]

 

[MinTrut]

A Synopsis of the Israel/Palestine Conflict​

The following is a very short synopsis of the history of this conflict. We recommend that you also read the much more detailed account, "The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict," and the book, "Against Our Better Judgment: The hidden history of how the U.S. was used to create Israel."

For centuries there was no such conflict. In the 19th century the land of Palestine was inhabited by a multicultural population – approximately 86 percent Muslim, 10 percent Christian, and 4 percent Jewish – living in peace.[1]

Zionism​

In the late 1800s a group in Europe decided to colonize this land. Known as Zionists, they represented an extremist minority of the Jewish population. Their goal was to create a Jewish homeland, and they considered locations in Africa and the Americas, before settling on Palestine.[2]

Historic Palestine more maps

At first, this immigration created no problems. However, as more and more Zionists immigrated to Palestine – many with the express wish of taking over the land for a Jewish state – the indigenous population became increasingly alarmed. Eventually, fighting broke out, with escalating waves of violence. Hitler's rise to power, combined with Zionist activities to sabotage efforts to place Jewish refugees in western countries[3], led to increased Jewish immigration to Palestine, and conflict grew.

UN Partition Plan​

UN Plan of Partition more maps

Finally, in 1947 the United Nations decided to intervene. However, rather than adhering to the principle of “self-determination of peoples,” in which the people themselves create their own state and system of government, the UN chose to revert to the medieval strategy whereby an outside power divides up other people’s land. Under considerable Zionist pressure, the UN recommended giving away 55% of Palestine to a Jewish state – despite the fact that this group represented only about 30% of the total population, and owned under 7% of the land.[4]

A Synopsis of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

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If this is true, then it looks like the Palestinian people really got screwed - and still getting screwed.

The Nakba is aptly named.

 

[surada]

His father wanted peace and made a Treaty with Israel for Peace. His son, this guy, does not want Peace with Israel because he is afraid of all of those who could kill him. His father had courage, his son does not.

And spare me the Arab written cries of "We poor victims".

Arabia, only, belongs to the Arabs. Outside of that, all the way to North Africa is stolen land. Stolen by the Muslims, and migrated endlessly by the Arabs.

No, there isn't one Jew hating bone in you. What a laugh. Maybe not your bones, but your blood got a very overdose of anti Jewish blood transferred to you.


You ARE an antisemite ( a term invented by a German Judeophobic Jew hater who thought it would be cute to change the terminology from Judeophobic to Antisemitic. Christians are something else, aren't they?]

Nope. I've just never met an Israeli that wasn't obnoxious.

300 of them moved to Myrtle Beach in 1992 and even the Jewish community couldn't stand them. Most were crooks.

1922 census.

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia

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The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nope. I've just never met an Israeli that wasn't obnoxious.

300 of them moved to Myrtle Beach in 1992 and even the Jewish community couldn't stand them. Most were crooks.

1922 census.

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.

Surada's antisemitism way out front, for all to see.

 

[Lakhota]

Supporting Palestinians is not the same as supporting Hamas. Israeli hardliners have been fucking over Palestinians from day one. They continue to steal Palestinian land - continually expanding and building new Jewish settlements. When Palestinians were seeking a protector - maybe Hamas wasn't their best choice. However - WHAT CHOICE DID THEY HAVE?