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A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike?

Neil Chesanow|December 21, 2015
A Single-Payer System: Why It Would Save US Healthcare

Recently, Medscape published two provocative articles on the viability of a single-payer healthcare system in which experts took opposing views on the issue. In one article, one group argued why it would save US healthcare; in the other, another group made the case that adopting a single-payer system would be the ruin of US healthcare.

In the article on why a single-payer system would be our salvation, Donald Berwick, MD, former administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services and an architect of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), contended that although the ACA has been "a step forward for the country," it "does not deal with the problem of waste and complexity in the system," as he feels a single-payer system would.

And James Burdick, MD, a transplant surgeon at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and author of the forthcoming book Talking About SINGLE PAYER!, argued that a single-payer system is "a more economical way to use healthcare resources. You could reduce expenses and still improve quality. That's a tremendous opportunity that you don't have in many other fields."

Of course, as the article pointed out, this would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000. But Dr Burdick believes it would likely restore doctors' authority. And those who favor single-payer say that for all practices, administrative costs would plummet because there would be only one set of payment rules. Prior authorizations, narrow networks, and out-of-pocket payments would be eliminated, proponents of a single-payer system maintain.

The article also pointed to evidence of growing physician support for a single-payer system. For example, a 2014 survey of Maine physicians conducted found that nearly 65% of respondents preferred the single-payer option over trying to fix the current system—up from 52% in a 2008 survey. Physicians in general seem more open to a single-payer system.

Americans are warming up to the idea too. A tiny majority (51%) support Medicare for all, according to a national poll released in January. Many experts believe that the movement for a single-payer system may start at the state level, although the public's abiding mistrust of government must still be overcome.

The article ignited impassioned arguments about the pros and cons of a single-payer system among the well over 100 physicians who responded with comments. Several doctors proposed thoughtful alternatives to "Medicare-for-all."

"Commercial insurance is a failure and a joke," one doctor opined. "Families pay more than $15,000 per year for health insurance and still have $2500 in deductibles, plus high copays. Patients are reluctant to get healthcare in outpatient settings, since private insurance does not cover anything unless a catastrophic event occurs. Many doctors no longer accept private insurance owing to their numerous administrative burdens. We easily forget that the primary goal of private insurance in capitalism to make a profit for the CEOs of insurance companies and the shareholders who own stock in them. Personally, I would prefer a 100% Medicare practice."

"Medical insurance is supposed to be only for catastrophic events, like car insurance," another physician shot back. "Can you imagine if Americans wanted insurance to pay for routine maintenance and fuel for their cars? The healthcare system is broken. You solution is to break it some more. My solution for my family is to live within our means, never go into debt for more than 30 days at a stretch, and never purchase health insurance—except very high-deductible, catastrophic-event insurance. Emergency rooms are for broken bones, gushing wounds, anaphylaxis, and other genuine emergencies, not sniffles and sprains. A full medicine chest and a bit of common sense is our family's strategy."

"A government-run single-payer system is without a doubt the only way to provide effective medical health therapeutic and management, a doctor contended. "For those who desire a higher level of care—and can afford it—there will be a concierge and private-pay system. As medicine advances technologically, this will become a necessity. The loss of jobs in the insurance industry will be partially offset by an increase in the added positions in the government medical system."

"Obamacare barely passed through Congress with Democrat-only votes, and only with the assistance of bribes, threats, and lies," an anesthesiologist fumed. "It has never garnered more than 30% public approval; and it has been changed over 40 times by the Obama regime illegally, without benefit of legislation by the legislative branch. The clowns who thought it was such a terrific idea back then are the same clowns braying for single-payer now. Why we are supposed to trust them this time? Why is it that the only answer to failed socialist government programs is more socialist government programs?"

"Single-payer reform would be an audacious step," a radiologist observed. "It would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000—and replace it with one unified payer. EXCEPT that when the government takes over, it will cost $1.4 trillion and require a 900,000-person workforce."

"A one-payer system will not be like 'Medicare-for-all'; it will be end up becoming more like 'Medicaid-for-all,'" a pulmonologist warned. "How many of you in private practice could make a living if 100% of your patients were on Medicaid?"

"Yes, turn it over to the government," a doctor acerbically wrote. "They will make our lives easier and reduce our paperwork and the onerous documentation requirements during patient encounters. Oh wait! They are the ones doing now that with Medicare. Never mind."

"I don't see one valid point against single-payer in these comments, just the usual 'anticommunist' stuff," another doctor reasoned. "A number of comments trashed the Veterans Administration (VA). The VA system has a lot going for it, considering the level of acuity of the population it serves—starting with a functional electronic health record. Do the detractors think that a random assortment of for-profit HMOs would do a better job serving the high-utilization health needs of veterans? Basic healthcare is like a utility—something everyone needs, and in the best interest of our society to make sure everybody gets."

"Why does it have to be a single-payer?" one doctor wanted to know. "Why not a government payer for essential care and let private payers compete for the rest?"

"Why not allow anyone to buy Medicare as their insurance, rather than just those over 65?" another doctor counter-proposed. "Young, healthy people could get Medicare, and the premium would be much less than commercial insurance. Their utilization of medical services is generally lower, so the money generated would be a net to Medicare. If commercial insurance wants to compete, it would have to lower its rates. This would generate competition among Medicare and commercial insurers and drive premiums down. If you want Medicare, then get it. If you want commercial insurance, then get it. Let the individual decide, but give the option of Medicare."


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Any views expressed above are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect the views of WebMD or Medscape.

Cite this article: Neil Chesanow. A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike? Medscape. Dec 21, 2015.
 
What a God-Awful idea!

Because -?

Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has any authority in healthcare at any level.

Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why. I asked you to provide something, anything that shows where the government has the authority over healthcare in any way. Since you can't provide anything, that's my answer to you question of why it's a bad idea.

I never said anything about the general welfare clause. Seems you missed again moron. So typical of a Liberal.

The only people that imply that are worthless piece of shit Liberals who think those of us honorable enough to provide for ourselves owe some lowlife something that we earned.

I can understand why you're scared to answer. I've embarrassed you before and you can't take it again.
 
What a God-Awful idea!

Because -?

Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has any authority in healthcare at any level.

Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why.

I asked why CrusaderFrank thought single-payer was a bad idea. You launched into a discussion of the Constitution. Shall we do a riff on "a well-trained militia" or can you address the article in the OP?
 
What a God-Awful idea!

Because -?

Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has any authority in healthcare at any level.

Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why.

I asked why CrusaderFrank thought single-payer was a bad idea. You launched into a discussion of the Constitution. Shall we do a riff on "a well-trained militia" or can you address the article in the OP?

I answered why I thought it was a bad idea and explained why using the Constitution.

Still running scared pussy? I would be scared of someone like me that's way smarter than you'll ever be.

Want to discuss the implication of general welfare. Tell you what. If someone you know of can't afford it, provide it to them or let them do without. I don't care.
 
Because -?

Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has any authority in healthcare at any level.

Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why.

I asked why CrusaderFrank thought single-payer was a bad idea. You launched into a discussion of the Constitution. Shall we do a riff on "a well-trained militia" or can you address the article in the OP?

I answered why I thought it was a bad idea and explained why using the Constitution.

Well, if you're satisfied with your answer, I guess it will have to do.
 
The biggest problem with the idea of single payer is who the single payer would be, the fed govt. I envision a giant pile of money going to the biggest political donors.

I have other problems with it as well, but all revolve around govt. Anyone that thinks administrative costs would go down, hasn't been paying attention. I continually hear doctors stating that dealing with medicaid is 1000% worse than dealing with insurance companies. And much of the head aches associated with the insurance companies is govt mandated.

Every time I hear predictions of the savings under a govt single payer system, I think about projections for medicare. In the 1970s it was predicted that by 1990 medicare would cost 18bill/yr. In 1990 medicare spent almost 107bil.
 
Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has any authority in healthcare at any level.

Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why.

I asked why CrusaderFrank thought single-payer was a bad idea. You launched into a discussion of the Constitution. Shall we do a riff on "a well-trained militia" or can you address the article in the OP?

I answered why I thought it was a bad idea and explained why using the Constitution.

Well, if you're satisfied with your answer, I guess it will have to do.

That you don't like it is your problem bitch.
 
Isn't there a forum for Constitutional questions? That would be a great place to argue whether or not a healthy citizenry is implied in the General Welfare clause.

CrusaderFrank said it was a bad idea. You asked why.

I asked why CrusaderFrank thought single-payer was a bad idea. You launched into a discussion of the Constitution. Shall we do a riff on "a well-trained militia" or can you address the article in the OP?

I answered why I thought it was a bad idea and explained why using the Constitution.

Well, if you're satisfied with your answer, I guess it will have to do.

That you don't like it is your problem bitch.

Did I say I didn't like it? It's actually very informative. Please continue to post more contentless flames.
 
And in the interests of fairness, an opposing viewpoint:

www.medscape.com

Still Think A Single-Payer System Is Best? Read This First

Neil Chesanow|December 22, 2015
Single-Payer System: Why It Would Ruin US Healthcare

Many doctors believe that the real problem with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is that it didn't go far enough—that what it should have been, if it had been politically possible, was a single-payer system that extended health insurance to all Americans and would have benefited doctors and patients alike.

However, a recent Medscape article looked at the problems inherent in a single-payer system, dubbed "Medicare-for-all," and identified many that could be significant.

One critic noted that single-payer systems in Canada, the United Kingdom, and other developed countries have to impose strict central planning. Rather than leave healthcare choices up to individual physicians, their patients, and free-market forces that could balance supply with demand, the government sets the rule. This would inevitably result in shortages of some services and gluts of others.

And with no competitors, central planners could arbitrarily decide what physician payments should be. Studies of countries with universal coverage show that their doctors earn up to 70% less than doctors here.

Another disturbing aspect of a single-payer system is the lack of competition among payers, which would reduce physicians' control over standards of care and reimbursement. In a multipayer system, doctors can choose which insurers to work with—even opting out of Medicare and Medicaid, as doctors are increasingly choosing to do. They couldn't in a pure single-payer system.

Critics also point to waiting lists so long in the much-vaunted Canadian single-payer system that some Canadians choose to come to the United States or other countries to receive timely care. Britain's National Health Service, often held up as model of how single-payer can work, is plagued by chronic problems in the quality of care that put some patients at life-threatening risk. The closest analogue we have to a single-payer system here, the Veterans Health Administration, has been rocked by scandals about untimely access and is staffed by too few doctors, who, one critic charges, "work shorter hours just punching a clock."

In addition, public opinion has been shifting away from support for "healthcare for all" ever since the buildup of the ACA. Even in Europe, the heart of the single-payer movement, the concept has encountered embarrassing defeats. Concluded one doctor who was critical of single-payer: "We have the finest healthcare system in the world, and it continues to get better."

The article sparked dozens of impassioned comments from physicians. But, interestingly, whereas a companion article arguing the benefits of a single-payer system drew mostly critical comments, the majority of doctors who responded to the article detailing the downsides of Medicare-for-all begged to differ with its gloomy prognosis. Several doctors proposed reconceptualizations of the current system rather than an either/or solution.

"In the present system, I can decide which insurers make unreasonable demands and place unreasonable restrictions on patient care and tell patients to either change insurance or find another doctor," noted a psychiatrist who agreed with the article's premise. "In a single-payer system, he who pays the piper calls the tune—the doctor and patient are no longer in control of the treatment a patient gets. Do we really want Washington bureaucrats controlling healthcare?"

"Single-payer is like oxycodone for pain management: It seems to work, but it creates a bevy of new problems, the nature of which can not be easily undone," a preventive medicine specialist contended. "The damage that will be unleashed, we can only speculate about. The best solution is neither single-payer nor keeping the current system. It's to reform the entire system, but with the American Medical Association, the health insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the medical device industry all pointing guns at the heads of our congressional representatives, it won't happen any time in the foreseeable future."

"I am a solo, private PCP," an internist wrote. "I support a single-payer/simplified healthcare system. My income is decent but dropping because I am forced to use an electronic health record (EHR) and other costly technology. Having an EHR compels me to hire more staff. I guess the experts quoted in the article work with big groups or medical centers that can absorb these expenses. The dream of young physicians to be self-employed is vanishing."

"We do not have the best healthcare in the world; we're not even in the top 10 by any measure except our per capita spending," a surgeon observed. "We already have wait lists and rationing, when insurers demand preauthorizations and delay care with ridiculous denials requiring more physician time in the appeal process. Physicians are not powerless in a single-payer system. We are vital to its success and, as in Canada, would negotiate fee increases, access, goals, and quality measures with the government. Hundreds of billions of dollars now going to high-salaried management, extraordinary pharmaceutical costs, and the shareholders of companies involved in healthcare that could be redirected to building a much better system of universal care."

"I am tired of the back-and-forth, as well as the power the insurance companies have over care," an orthopedic surgeon resignedly wrote. "Let's just go full socialized medicine, and I will work accordingly. I will make a high—if not top—government salary. The government can pay off my remaining loans. I will show up at the clinic at 9 AM; take a 20-minute coffee break; see a few patients; play around on the Internet; and take a leisurely, hour-plus lunch; schedule as few surgeries as possible; give most patients NSAIDs, physical therapy, and braces instead; leave around 4 PM; take little, if any, call; and put in minimal effort. Sounds good to me! If the American public really thinks 'affordable healthcare that every other developed nation has' is the answer, then so be it. Everyone wants cheap, Walmart, convenient medicine. Well, let's give it to them! I am over working 15-hour days, just to see 40% of my earnings confiscated for 'the greater good.'"

To which a general practitioner responded, "I want an orthopedist who is busy and skilled, with high-volume experience with the same procedure using an efficient multidisciplinary team approach, and a clean hospital or surgicenter available in which to operate. I couldn't care less about your personality, bedside manner, community service, or patient satisfaction surveys. A government-run, central-authority–dictated system with a casual work schedule as you wish for—tongue in cheek, I hope—will erode your skills, probably increase your complication and malpractice rates, and diminish your professional growth."

"Let me tell you about medicine in England," an emergency physician volunteered. "My elderly sister-in-law died of spinal shock after a fall at home. It took the doctors 2 days to get an MRI, which, had it been done promptly, might have saved her life. In England, nothing gets done without layers and layers of reviews and approvals. People wait months for a CABG. Specialists are booked out for months. This is not the kind of medicine I want to be a part of."

"And yet outcomes in England are far better than in the USA!" an internist replied. "And they are even better in other countries with a single-payer system—for example, Sweden or France. England spends much less on healthcare than the other western countries, but all spend much less than the United States, and yet they all have better outcomes. Imagine a system where you (as a patient) don't have to worry about being able to afford healthcare, and not have to forgo treatment because you can't pay the copayment or afford the medication, yet enjoy medical care whose outcome is far superior to ours by all available studies!"

"Don't try to disparage single-payer by defending medical care in the United States as it is: inefficient, wasteful, overpriced, and poorly distributed," an oncologist commented. "If single-payer won't fix those problems, then it shouldn't be adopted. But to pretend that our current system is working well for everyone at a price we can all afford—well, that's not true."

"A hybrid system is the answer," an emergency physician maintained. "Basic medical, dental, and eye coverage for all US citizens makes sense. A single-payer system would provide this, and if you enact some EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act) protections and tax incentives for those providing this basic, safety-net care, providers to continue to stay in the game. It would also, however, pave the way for more private, concierge-type medical practices. Insurance companies would remain to provide 'buy-up' plans for consumers wanting more health coverage, and plenty of providers would tailor their practices for this group. Many practices, however, would offer both."


Medscape Business of Medicine © 2015 WebMD, LLC

Any views expressed above are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect the views of WebMD or Medscape.

Cite this article: Neil Chesanow. Still Think A Single-Payer System Is Best? Read This First. Medscape. Dec 22, 2015.
 
Posted in its entirety because Medscape is registered-users only site:

www.medscape.com

A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike?

Neil Chesanow|December 21, 2015
A Single-Payer System: Why It Would Save US Healthcare

Recently, Medscape published two provocative articles on the viability of a single-payer healthcare system in which experts took opposing views on the issue. In one article, one group argued why it would save US healthcare; in the other, another group made the case that adopting a single-payer system would be the ruin of US healthcare.

In the article on why a single-payer system would be our salvation, Donald Berwick, MD, former administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services and an architect of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), contended that although the ACA has been "a step forward for the country," it "does not deal with the problem of waste and complexity in the system," as he feels a single-payer system would.

And James Burdick, MD, a transplant surgeon at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and author of the forthcoming book Talking About SINGLE PAYER!, argued that a single-payer system is "a more economical way to use healthcare resources. You could reduce expenses and still improve quality. That's a tremendous opportunity that you don't have in many other fields."

Of course, as the article pointed out, this would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000. But Dr Burdick believes it would likely restore doctors' authority. And those who favor single-payer say that for all practices, administrative costs would plummet because there would be only one set of payment rules. Prior authorizations, narrow networks, and out-of-pocket payments would be eliminated, proponents of a single-payer system maintain.

The article also pointed to evidence of growing physician support for a single-payer system. For example, a 2014 survey of Maine physicians conducted found that nearly 65% of respondents preferred the single-payer option over trying to fix the current system—up from 52% in a 2008 survey. Physicians in general seem more open to a single-payer system.

Americans are warming up to the idea too. A tiny majority (51%) support Medicare for all, according to a national poll released in January. Many experts believe that the movement for a single-payer system may start at the state level, although the public's abiding mistrust of government must still be overcome.

The article ignited impassioned arguments about the pros and cons of a single-payer system among the well over 100 physicians who responded with comments. Several doctors proposed thoughtful alternatives to "Medicare-for-all."

"Commercial insurance is a failure and a joke," one doctor opined. "Families pay more than $15,000 per year for health insurance and still have $2500 in deductibles, plus high copays. Patients are reluctant to get healthcare in outpatient settings, since private insurance does not cover anything unless a catastrophic event occurs. Many doctors no longer accept private insurance owing to their numerous administrative burdens. We easily forget that the primary goal of private insurance in capitalism to make a profit for the CEOs of insurance companies and the shareholders who own stock in them. Personally, I would prefer a 100% Medicare practice."

"Medical insurance is supposed to be only for catastrophic events, like car insurance," another physician shot back. "Can you imagine if Americans wanted insurance to pay for routine maintenance and fuel for their cars? The healthcare system is broken. You solution is to break it some more. My solution for my family is to live within our means, never go into debt for more than 30 days at a stretch, and never purchase health insurance—except very high-deductible, catastrophic-event insurance. Emergency rooms are for broken bones, gushing wounds, anaphylaxis, and other genuine emergencies, not sniffles and sprains. A full medicine chest and a bit of common sense is our family's strategy."

"A government-run single-payer system is without a doubt the only way to provide effective medical health therapeutic and management, a doctor contended. "For those who desire a higher level of care—and can afford it—there will be a concierge and private-pay system. As medicine advances technologically, this will become a necessity. The loss of jobs in the insurance industry will be partially offset by an increase in the added positions in the government medical system."

"Obamacare barely passed through Congress with Democrat-only votes, and only with the assistance of bribes, threats, and lies," an anesthesiologist fumed. "It has never garnered more than 30% public approval; and it has been changed over 40 times by the Obama regime illegally, without benefit of legislation by the legislative branch. The clowns who thought it was such a terrific idea back then are the same clowns braying for single-payer now. Why we are supposed to trust them this time? Why is it that the only answer to failed socialist government programs is more socialist government programs?"

"Single-payer reform would be an audacious step," a radiologist observed. "It would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000—and replace it with one unified payer. EXCEPT that when the government takes over, it will cost $1.4 trillion and require a 900,000-person workforce."

"A one-payer system will not be like 'Medicare-for-all'; it will be end up becoming more like 'Medicaid-for-all,'" a pulmonologist warned. "How many of you in private practice could make a living if 100% of your patients were on Medicaid?"

"Yes, turn it over to the government," a doctor acerbically wrote. "They will make our lives easier and reduce our paperwork and the onerous documentation requirements during patient encounters. Oh wait! They are the ones doing now that with Medicare. Never mind."

"I don't see one valid point against single-payer in these comments, just the usual 'anticommunist' stuff," another doctor reasoned. "A number of comments trashed the Veterans Administration (VA). The VA system has a lot going for it, considering the level of acuity of the population it serves—starting with a functional electronic health record. Do the detractors think that a random assortment of for-profit HMOs would do a better job serving the high-utilization health needs of veterans? Basic healthcare is like a utility—something everyone needs, and in the best interest of our society to make sure everybody gets."

"Why does it have to be a single-payer?" one doctor wanted to know. "Why not a government payer for essential care and let private payers compete for the rest?"

"Why not allow anyone to buy Medicare as their insurance, rather than just those over 65?" another doctor counter-proposed. "Young, healthy people could get Medicare, and the premium would be much less than commercial insurance. Their utilization of medical services is generally lower, so the money generated would be a net to Medicare. If commercial insurance wants to compete, it would have to lower its rates. This would generate competition among Medicare and commercial insurers and drive premiums down. If you want Medicare, then get it. If you want commercial insurance, then get it. Let the individual decide, but give the option of Medicare."


Medscape Business of Medicine © 2015 WebMD, LLC

Any views expressed above are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect the views of WebMD or Medscape.

Cite this article: Neil Chesanow. A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike? Medscape. Dec 21, 2015.

yes our lib commies want single payer is all industries!! Do you think they spied for Stalin just because Stalin was providing libcommie health care??
 
Want to see government run health care in action visit a VA hospital the shortest time I've waited in the emergency room was 2 hours. I've waited for 3 months to get an MRI on my back and knee's just for them to cance with no explanation what's so ever.
 
The United States is never going to have a federal single payer health care system. It's completely unmanageable in a nation this size. If you think the system is fucked up now, try managing the bureaucracy required to administer health care to over 300 milllion people. You people supporting this really do have shit for brains. No amount of "free" health care will ever be able to help you.
 
Posted in its entirety because Medscape is registered-users only site:

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A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike?

Neil Chesanow|December 21, 2015
A Single-Payer System: Why It Would Save US Healthcare

Recently, Medscape published two provocative articles on the viability of a single-payer healthcare system in which experts took opposing views on the issue. In one article, one group argued why it would save US healthcare; in the other, another group made the case that adopting a single-payer system would be the ruin of US healthcare.

In the article on why a single-payer system would be our salvation, Donald Berwick, MD, former administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services and an architect of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), contended that although the ACA has been "a step forward for the country," it "does not deal with the problem of waste and complexity in the system," as he feels a single-payer system would.

And James Burdick, MD, a transplant surgeon at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and author of the forthcoming book Talking About SINGLE PAYER!, argued that a single-payer system is "a more economical way to use healthcare resources. You could reduce expenses and still improve quality. That's a tremendous opportunity that you don't have in many other fields."

Of course, as the article pointed out, this would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000. But Dr Burdick believes it would likely restore doctors' authority. And those who favor single-payer say that for all practices, administrative costs would plummet because there would be only one set of payment rules. Prior authorizations, narrow networks, and out-of-pocket payments would be eliminated, proponents of a single-payer system maintain.

The article also pointed to evidence of growing physician support for a single-payer system. For example, a 2014 survey of Maine physicians conducted found that nearly 65% of respondents preferred the single-payer option over trying to fix the current system—up from 52% in a 2008 survey. Physicians in general seem more open to a single-payer system.

Americans are warming up to the idea too. A tiny majority (51%) support Medicare for all, according to a national poll released in January. Many experts believe that the movement for a single-payer system may start at the state level, although the public's abiding mistrust of government must still be overcome.

The article ignited impassioned arguments about the pros and cons of a single-payer system among the well over 100 physicians who responded with comments. Several doctors proposed thoughtful alternatives to "Medicare-for-all."

"Commercial insurance is a failure and a joke," one doctor opined. "Families pay more than $15,000 per year for health insurance and still have $2500 in deductibles, plus high copays. Patients are reluctant to get healthcare in outpatient settings, since private insurance does not cover anything unless a catastrophic event occurs. Many doctors no longer accept private insurance owing to their numerous administrative burdens. We easily forget that the primary goal of private insurance in capitalism to make a profit for the CEOs of insurance companies and the shareholders who own stock in them. Personally, I would prefer a 100% Medicare practice."

"Medical insurance is supposed to be only for catastrophic events, like car insurance," another physician shot back. "Can you imagine if Americans wanted insurance to pay for routine maintenance and fuel for their cars? The healthcare system is broken. You solution is to break it some more. My solution for my family is to live within our means, never go into debt for more than 30 days at a stretch, and never purchase health insurance—except very high-deductible, catastrophic-event insurance. Emergency rooms are for broken bones, gushing wounds, anaphylaxis, and other genuine emergencies, not sniffles and sprains. A full medicine chest and a bit of common sense is our family's strategy."

"A government-run single-payer system is without a doubt the only way to provide effective medical health therapeutic and management, a doctor contended. "For those who desire a higher level of care—and can afford it—there will be a concierge and private-pay system. As medicine advances technologically, this will become a necessity. The loss of jobs in the insurance industry will be partially offset by an increase in the added positions in the government medical system."

"Obamacare barely passed through Congress with Democrat-only votes, and only with the assistance of bribes, threats, and lies," an anesthesiologist fumed. "It has never garnered more than 30% public approval; and it has been changed over 40 times by the Obama regime illegally, without benefit of legislation by the legislative branch. The clowns who thought it was such a terrific idea back then are the same clowns braying for single-payer now. Why we are supposed to trust them this time? Why is it that the only answer to failed socialist government programs is more socialist government programs?"

"Single-payer reform would be an audacious step," a radiologist observed. "It would virtually eliminate the entire commercial insurance industry—with $730 billion in revenues and a workforce of 470,000—and replace it with one unified payer. EXCEPT that when the government takes over, it will cost $1.4 trillion and require a 900,000-person workforce."

"A one-payer system will not be like 'Medicare-for-all'; it will be end up becoming more like 'Medicaid-for-all,'" a pulmonologist warned. "How many of you in private practice could make a living if 100% of your patients were on Medicaid?"

"Yes, turn it over to the government," a doctor acerbically wrote. "They will make our lives easier and reduce our paperwork and the onerous documentation requirements during patient encounters. Oh wait! They are the ones doing now that with Medicare. Never mind."

"I don't see one valid point against single-payer in these comments, just the usual 'anticommunist' stuff," another doctor reasoned. "A number of comments trashed the Veterans Administration (VA). The VA system has a lot going for it, considering the level of acuity of the population it serves—starting with a functional electronic health record. Do the detractors think that a random assortment of for-profit HMOs would do a better job serving the high-utilization health needs of veterans? Basic healthcare is like a utility—something everyone needs, and in the best interest of our society to make sure everybody gets."

"Why does it have to be a single-payer?" one doctor wanted to know. "Why not a government payer for essential care and let private payers compete for the rest?"

"Why not allow anyone to buy Medicare as their insurance, rather than just those over 65?" another doctor counter-proposed. "Young, healthy people could get Medicare, and the premium would be much less than commercial insurance. Their utilization of medical services is generally lower, so the money generated would be a net to Medicare. If commercial insurance wants to compete, it would have to lower its rates. This would generate competition among Medicare and commercial insurers and drive premiums down. If you want Medicare, then get it. If you want commercial insurance, then get it. Let the individual decide, but give the option of Medicare."


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Cite this article: Neil Chesanow. A Single-Payer System: Best for Doctors and Patients Alike? Medscape. Dec 21, 2015.
Even my very conservative Republican British bosses think our for profit system is stupid and England's is great.
 

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