A Cop-Killer Advocate Goes Down in Flames in the Senate

[whitehall]

I've seen Republicans do this before. The Willie Horton commercial comes to mind. They're still proud of that too.

Same with war hero, Kerry.

The Repubs never let a lie get in the way of winning an election.

The dirtier, the better.

And, as we've seen, if lying doesn't work, stealing and buying are also options. dAnd, what the heck, throw in some gerrymandering ...

Why are lefties so sensitive about the truth? There was no campaign against the nominee and it wasn't an election. Ask the seven democrat senators why they voted against Hussein's nominee.

 

[mamooth]

He was acting as an advocate for the former black panther ....dipshit.

As Whitehall so kindly illustrates for us, it's all about the race-baiting. It's not that the guy is a cop killer that's a problem, it's the fact he's a scary black man. That's what it has in common with the Willie Horton case.

 

[beagle9]

It's just terrible that while the dems are still assured of having the numbers, some have turned their backs on Obama.

The numbers eh ? What maybe as in a majority ruling on an issue or an appointment or etc. ? I thought majority rulings are a bad thing according to the dems, so what is this numbers stuff that is spoken of in this way ? Oh that's right, everything that is accused of or is against the so called right or republican party by the dems, doesn't apply when the shoe is on the other foot does it ? Just an observation is all.

 

[beagle9]

I've seen Republicans do this before. The Willie Horton commercial comes to mind. They're still proud of that too.

Same with war hero, Kerry.

The Repubs never let a lie get in the way of winning an election.

The dirtier, the better.

And, as we've seen, if lying doesn't work, stealing and buying are also options. dAnd, what the heck, throw in some gerrymandering ...

How can you or others take any sides when it comes to a party, as they are all guilty of slinging the dirt on each other, and yes the dirtier the better is the way they all see it, because winning is everything to these cats. How about taking the side of right for a change, and judge what is right on each issue that is brought, then you might appear as noble if that is what you think you may be in life.

 

[American_Jihad]

I know why the lefties are all wee weed up running around stomping their hooves in da ground, they consider wesley cook aka mumia abu-jamal a hero...

Black Panther COWARD
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I know why the lefties are all wee weed up running around stomping their hooves in da ground, they consider wesley cook aka mumia abu-jamal a hero...

Black Panther COWARD
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...

Not me - the guys a scum-bag as far as I know. Of course, I don't believe everything I hear ... not right off, anyway.

I always try to look a bit further into things.

 

[Sallow]

I know why the lefties are all wee weed up running around stomping their hooves in da ground, they consider wesley cook aka mumia abu-jamal a hero...

Black Panther COWARD
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...

You seem selective in your outrage.

The guy leading the Supreme Court advocated for a Serial Killer that took the lives of many Americans.

Where is your thread on that?

 

[martybegan]

Stupid. The dude is qualified. The nutters are basing their vote on politics. The 7 Dems are idiot cowards who caved to loud voices from crazy people.

Of course.....USMB nutters have no ability to see it for what it is.

An advocate of cop killers? Fucking retards.

IS Mumia a cop killer or not? Was he convicted or not? Did this guy try to get him released from prison after his conviction or not?

 

[DriftingSand]

As a lawyer, you sometimes have to represent guilty people. It's a fact.

True, but it doesn't mean you have to applaud the guilty people (or even like them).

 

[DriftingSand]

As a lawyer, you sometimes have to represent guilty people. It's a fact.

To the Right, no black guilty or innocent is entitled to a lawyer.

Blatant lies damage credibility.

The Panther shot and killed an officer who was "working" and doing what he was paid to do. Not only that but the cowardly panther shot him in the back then shot him 4 more times when he was down. He's as guilty as can possibly be and should have gotten the death penalty.

 

[Iceweasel]

The Panther shot and killed an officer who was "working" and doing what he was paid to do. Not only that but the cowardly panther shot him in the back then shot him 4 more times when he was down. He's as guilty as can possibly be and should have gotten the death penalty.

Amen. And there's no law that says you have to defend a subhuman scumbag like that, unless you're a public defender that got stuck with it. Even then you may have some options.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Fox News' Greg Gutfeld: Adegbile Is A "Cop Killer's Coddler" Comparable To Guantanamo Detainees. The Five co-host Gutfeld, along with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson, have based multiple segments off of fringe bloggers' accusations that the NAACP LDF's successful appellate challenge to an improper death sentence is reprehensible. From the January 9, 2014, edition of The Five:

GUTFELD: The Fraternal Order of Police slammed the White House for nominating a cop-killer's coddler to a top job at the Justice Department. Debo Adegbile is a volunteer supporter and defender of Mumia Abu-Jamal who murdered Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner in cold blood 30 years ago. And so, you've got to wonder in a nation of sanctimonious attorneys, Obama picks this guy? What, none of the chaps he's releasing from Gitmo were free, or is he saving them for cabinet posts? And yet we're still supposed to believe that Reverend Wright's claims were all false, so once again America is punished for being deeply racist. How is this nomination not a hate crime against our nation's police? Maybe celebrity supporters of that same cop killer like Ed Asner and Mike Farrell can explain this to Officer Faulkner's widow or ask Harry Reid who gamed the Senate to ensure passage of horrid nominees like this one. This guy may be the first job Reid's created. But look, the outrage doesn't matter to Obama and neither does Mumia's guilt. This is about transferring power to the few, the radical, the race-baiting academics. Cop killing after all may be just a response to a racist society. Even the phrase "cop killer" is just too mean. Isn't it really just bigot control? But who cares? The media will focus on New Jersey traffic instead, and ignore this. Alas, Christie casts a big shadow, in every sense. [The Five, 1/9/14]

FACT: Criminal Defense Is A Respected Part Of American Law And LDF Successfully Overturned An Unconstitutional Death Sentence

American Bar Association: Adegbile Legal Representation Was "Consistent With The Finest Tradition" Of American Lawyering. The president of the American Bar Association (ABA), James R. Silkenat, wrote a letter to the Democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee unequivocally stating that Adegbile "should be commended, not condemned." From the January 13, 2014, letter:

As the Senate Judiciary Committee prepares to deliberate over the nomination of Debo Adegbile to be Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, I write to address the criticism this nominee has received regarding the legal representation he provided to a death-sentenced prisoner.

A fundamental tenet of our justice system and our Constitution is that anyone who faces loss of liberty has a right to legal counsel. Lawyers have an ethical obligation to uphold that principle and provide zealous representation to people who otherwise would stand alone against the power and resources of the government - even to those accused or convicted of terrible crimes. The American people understand this obligation, and the corollary principle stated in rule 1.2(b) of the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct that "[a] lawyer's representation of a client does not constitute an endorsement of the client's political, economic, social or moral views or activities."

I was alarmed to learn that there is some opposition to Mr. Adegbile's nomination based solely on his efforts to protect the fundamental rights of an unpopular client while working at the Legal Defense Fund. His work, like the work of ABA members who provide thousands of hours of pro bono legal services every year, is consistent with the finest tradition of this country's legal profession and should be commended, not condemned. [American Bar Association, 1/13/14]

NAACP LDF: Adegbile Was Following In The Steps Of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, To Ensure Criminal Justice Is Administered "Without Regard To Race." The legal arguments of the NAACP LDF on behalf of condemned prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal were not in regards to his innocence but rather to unconstitutional death sentencing jury instructions, efforts that were twice successful before the federal court of appeals. From the January 9, 2014, statement of Sherrilyn Ifill, president and director-counsel of the NAACP LDF:

Almost 25 years after Mr. Abu-Jamal's trial and conviction in state court, LDF chose to support Mr. Abu-Jamal's federal court jury selection challenges, and later to represent him. We did so for the same reason that we have represented people accused and convicted of crimes since Thurgood Marshall was LDF's first Director-Counsel - because LDF is committed to ensuring that the American criminal justice system is administered fairly and without regard to race, such that all individuals charged with or convicted of crimes are afforded the safeguards guaranteed by the constitution. Given the persistent, arbitrary and uncontroverted role of race in the administration of the death penalty, this mandate is particularly imperative in racially charged capital cases. When racial discrimination or other constitutional defects enter any aspect of the criminal justice system, it imperils the integrity of that system for everyone.

In Mr. Abu-Jamal's case, after LDF became counsel-of-record, his death sentence was conclusively found to be unconstitutional because his sentencing jury had been improperly instructed. Indeed, the federal court of appeals found in 2008, and again in 2011, that LDF's claim of constitutional error was correct. [NAACP Legal Defense Fund, 1/9/14]

The guy was just doing his job. Was he supposed to NOT do his job and have someone else do it? That makes no sense. Abu-Jamal was obviously guilty, but the law is the law. If the court system did not do It's job, (they clearly DID NOT) then it is a responsibility to insure that justice prevails.

 

[martybegan]

The Panther shot and killed an officer who was "working" and doing what he was paid to do. Not only that but the cowardly panther shot him in the back then shot him 4 more times when he was down. He's as guilty as can possibly be and should have gotten the death penalty.

Amen. And there's no law that says you have to defend a subhuman scumbag like that, unless you're a public defender that got stuck with it. Even then you may have some options.

This isn't about his defense during trial, no matter how much the progressives want to make it seem like it is. He had representation, and he has current representation. This is about his time as part of the NAACP that promoted releasing Mumia, or at a minimum getting him a new trial/off death row for political reasons.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

The Panther shot and killed an officer who was "working" and doing what he was paid to do. Not only that but the cowardly panther shot him in the back then shot him 4 more times when he was down. He's as guilty as can possibly be and should have gotten the death penalty.

Amen. And there's no law that says you have to defend a subhuman scumbag like that, unless you're a public defender that got stuck with it. Even then you may have some options.

This isn't about his defense during trial, no matter how much the progressives want to make it seem like it is. He had representation, and he has current representation. This is about his time as part of the NAACP that promoted releasing Mumia, or at a minimum getting him a new trial/off death row for political reasons.

You are a very smart poster, but you missed the boat on this one. Please read the prior post.

 

[beagle9]

I know why the lefties are all wee weed up running around stomping their hooves in da ground, they consider wesley cook aka mumia abu-jamal a hero...

Black Panther COWARD
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...

What is it with these names, are they considered as Muslim names, and what is Barack Hussien Obama, is that considered a Muslim name also ? Back during the Vietnam war, didn't Muhamad Ali change his name to a Muslim name, and this in an attempt to get out of going to that war based on religious grounds ? Then we began seeing alot of players in the NFL begin to change their names to Muslim names, but is this out of rebellion of some kind or a real transformation into that religion, and if so who is the rebellion being directed at if it is rebellion maybe or why are they (Americans) making these transformations in larger numbers these days ?

Is Obama's name a traditional Muslim name ? I mean one has to be curious about these things don't cha think ?

 

[beagle9]

Fox News' Greg Gutfeld: Adegbile Is A "Cop Killer's Coddler" Comparable To Guantanamo Detainees. The Five co-host Gutfeld, along with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson, have based multiple segments off of fringe bloggers' accusations that the NAACP LDF's successful appellate challenge to an improper death sentence is reprehensible. From the January 9, 2014, edition of The Five:

GUTFELD: The Fraternal Order of Police slammed the White House for nominating a cop-killer's coddler to a top job at the Justice Department. Debo Adegbile is a volunteer supporter and defender of Mumia Abu-Jamal who murdered Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner in cold blood 30 years ago. And so, you've got to wonder in a nation of sanctimonious attorneys, Obama picks this guy? What, none of the chaps he's releasing from Gitmo were free, or is he saving them for cabinet posts? And yet we're still supposed to believe that Reverend Wright's claims were all false, so once again America is punished for being deeply racist. How is this nomination not a hate crime against our nation's police? Maybe celebrity supporters of that same cop killer like Ed Asner and Mike Farrell can explain this to Officer Faulkner's widow or ask Harry Reid who gamed the Senate to ensure passage of horrid nominees like this one. This guy may be the first job Reid's created. But look, the outrage doesn't matter to Obama and neither does Mumia's guilt. This is about transferring power to the few, the radical, the race-baiting academics. Cop killing after all may be just a response to a racist society. Even the phrase "cop killer" is just too mean. Isn't it really just bigot control? But who cares? The media will focus on New Jersey traffic instead, and ignore this. Alas, Christie casts a big shadow, in every sense. [The Five, 1/9/14]

FACT: Criminal Defense Is A Respected Part Of American Law And LDF Successfully Overturned An Unconstitutional Death Sentence

American Bar Association: Adegbile Legal Representation Was "Consistent With The Finest Tradition" Of American Lawyering. The president of the American Bar Association (ABA), James R. Silkenat, wrote a letter to the Democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee unequivocally stating that Adegbile "should be commended, not condemned." From the January 13, 2014, letter:

As the Senate Judiciary Committee prepares to deliberate over the nomination of Debo Adegbile to be Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, I write to address the criticism this nominee has received regarding the legal representation he provided to a death-sentenced prisoner.

A fundamental tenet of our justice system and our Constitution is that anyone who faces loss of liberty has a right to legal counsel. Lawyers have an ethical obligation to uphold that principle and provide zealous representation to people who otherwise would stand alone against the power and resources of the government - even to those accused or convicted of terrible crimes. The American people understand this obligation, and the corollary principle stated in rule 1.2(b) of the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct that "[a] lawyer's representation of a client does not constitute an endorsement of the client's political, economic, social or moral views or activities."

I was alarmed to learn that there is some opposition to Mr. Adegbile's nomination based solely on his efforts to protect the fundamental rights of an unpopular client while working at the Legal Defense Fund. His work, like the work of ABA members who provide thousands of hours of pro bono legal services every year, is consistent with the finest tradition of this country's legal profession and should be commended, not condemned. [American Bar Association, 1/13/14]

NAACP LDF: Adegbile Was Following In The Steps Of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, To Ensure Criminal Justice Is Administered "Without Regard To Race." The legal arguments of the NAACP LDF on behalf of condemned prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal were not in regards to his innocence but rather to unconstitutional death sentencing jury instructions, efforts that were twice successful before the federal court of appeals. From the January 9, 2014, statement of Sherrilyn Ifill, president and director-counsel of the NAACP LDF:

Almost 25 years after Mr. Abu-Jamal's trial and conviction in state court, LDF chose to support Mr. Abu-Jamal's federal court jury selection challenges, and later to represent him. We did so for the same reason that we have represented people accused and convicted of crimes since Thurgood Marshall was LDF's first Director-Counsel - because LDF is committed to ensuring that the American criminal justice system is administered fairly and without regard to race, such that all individuals charged with or convicted of crimes are afforded the safeguards guaranteed by the constitution. Given the persistent, arbitrary and uncontroverted role of race in the administration of the death penalty, this mandate is particularly imperative in racially charged capital cases. When racial discrimination or other constitutional defects enter any aspect of the criminal justice system, it imperils the integrity of that system for everyone.

In Mr. Abu-Jamal's case, after LDF became counsel-of-record, his death sentence was conclusively found to be unconstitutional because his sentencing jury had been improperly instructed. Indeed, the federal court of appeals found in 2008, and again in 2011, that LDF's claim of constitutional error was correct. [NAACP Legal Defense Fund, 1/9/14]

The guy was just doing his job. Was he supposed to NOT do his job and have someone else do it? That makes no sense. Abu-Jamal was obviously guilty, but the law is the law. If the court system did not do It's job, (they clearly DID NOT) then it is a responsibility to insure that justice prevails.

Glad I am not a lawyer, because with some cases that might be appointed to me, I would just have to refuse to represent them, and that is just that. Now if I did somehow take a case by appointment of, and if I figured in the "discovery" that my client was guilty without a doubt, then I would drop the case immediately. Money would not mean as much to me as my soul would to me, and that's a fact.

 

[martybegan]

Amen. And there's no law that says you have to defend a subhuman scumbag like that, unless you're a public defender that got stuck with it. Even then you may have some options.

This isn't about his defense during trial, no matter how much the progressives want to make it seem like it is. He had representation, and he has current representation. This is about his time as part of the NAACP that promoted releasing Mumia, or at a minimum getting him a new trial/off death row for political reasons.

You are a very smart poster, but you missed the boat on this one. Please read the prior post.

He's still trying to get a cop killer off the hook (if only the death row hook) for political reasons. They can wrap it up in the technicality of jury instructions all they want, but Mumia is a cause de celebre, and this lawyer has to stand by what he did. If we do not accept it, he shouldn't get the job, and he didn't.

Why is he trying to explain at all? If he were on the side of Angels, he would proudly BOAST he got Mumia off death row. Instead he tries to justify it with legalisms.

 

[mamooth]

And the race-baiting just keeps coming. Pictures of the scary black man, mentioning over and over that he's a black panther. The cop killer part gets relegated to an afterthought; it's the scary black man part that gets emphasized.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Glad I am not a lawyer, because with some cases that might be appointed to me, I would just have to refuse to represent them, and that is just that. Now if I did somehow take a case by appointment of, and if I figured in the "discovery" that my client was guilty without a doubt, then I would drop the case immediately. Money would not mean as much to me as my soul would to me, and that's a fact.

Your job as a lawyer is to represent your client in court, to the best of your abilities.

It's a very important job - If your client is innocent, you want to do everything you can to make sure he avoids a conviction. If he is guilty - you want to do the best job you can, as well, to insure that he does not walk on a technicality, all because YOU didn't do your job.

Saying that you would refuse to help "prove" a guilty man innocent is kind of dumb - If there is not enough evidence to convict, then your client SHOULD walk.

It's the way our judicial system was meant to work.

 

[whitehall]

The bullet removed from Jamal's body was fired from the slain Officer's weapon. The court of appeals upheld the conviction, the Supreme Court refused to take up the case affirming the conviction. There is no doubt that Jamal is guilty of murder or felony murder. Why did the Obama appointee take up the case 27 years after the conviction? He liked and admired the Cop killing monster. .