51% chance Dems keep the Senate

[Two Thumbs]

Sure. Everyone is stupid. The GOP can never win another election. You may have hit on something.

How worse things got? In what respect, Charlie?

$17 trillion in the hole
devalued dollar
ue still high
422 tax increases
Bundy debacle
tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off
you can keep your plan
you can keep your doctor
irs scandal
everyone pleading the 5th

Informed and honest people see these things and have to wonder wtf is going on.

but you don't see any of this as bad or use the excuse someone else did it, so it's ok for us to do it.

It's really sad to see what you guys give a pass to now, you are no different than the religious right, you want government to force your wants on everyone else, and don't see the tyranny.

Silly list. Pick one. We'll discuss it for a minute.

tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off


tyranny; government through force or coercion.

 

[LoneLaugher]

$17 trillion in the hole
devalued dollar
ue still high
422 tax increases
Bundy debacle
tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off
you can keep your plan
you can keep your doctor
irs scandal
everyone pleading the 5th

Informed and honest people see these things and have to wonder wtf is going on.

but you don't see any of this as bad or use the excuse someone else did it, so it's ok for us to do it.

It's really sad to see what you guys give a pass to now, you are no different than the religious right, you want government to force your wants on everyone else, and don't see the tyranny.

Silly list. Pick one. We'll discuss it for a minute.

tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off


tyranny; government through force or coercion.

You picked that? Too easy.

You cannot establish that anything "tyrannical" ( tie-ran-ik-ul), took place. Therefore, this has been a very short discussion.

 

[mudwhistle]

Silly list. Pick one. We'll discuss it for a minute.

tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off


tyranny; government through force or coercion.

You picked that? Too easy.

You cannot establish that anything "tyrannical" ( tie-ran-ik-ul), took place. Therefore, this has been a very short discussion.

Does the BLM ring a bell?

IRS attacking political enemies isn't Tyrannical?

But traffic cones are Tyrannical?????

 

[JakeStarkey]

All the Republicans need to do is keep track of all the Obamacare horror stories sprouting up hither and thither. Save 'em up and bombard the lefties at just the right time. Document all the lies and deceit. Remind America of the 5 or 6 years of horrible economic and employment conditions and they should be able to regain the Senate. But again ... there is the stupid factor that Dems have on their side. Stupid as in voters who were stupid enough to vote for a Dem in the first place.

The electorate has not forgotten our party's responsibility for the Great Recession with some help from some of our Dem friends.

We Pubs need to run a not "me too" campaign but a "we can do it better" with real suggestions. We have not done that yet. We have not reached our clearly to women, Hispanics, etc.

If we don't, we for the third may not get the Senate majority that common sense dictates we should.

It is not the electorate's fault if they are not buying our message.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Back in March the figures were looking like a GOP take over. The recent polls have shown that GOP advantage has largely gone down significantly and with a couple polls in Arkansas and Iowa actually favoring the Democrats, the Democrats for the first time in 2014 actually have a slim favor in retaining the senate.

Who Will Win The Senate? ? The Upshot Senate Forecasts ?*NYTimes.com

Improving opinion on Obamacare? Better opinions of Obama? Are Democrats finally getting a chance to spend money on the same level as the Kochs? Who knows...but the trend is certainly positive for the Democrats.

But only if those evil Repugs won't be allowed to depress the repeat Democrat voter.

Are you mental?

 

[mudwhistle]

All the Republicans need to do is keep track of all the Obamacare horror stories sprouting up hither and thither. Save 'em up and bombard the lefties at just the right time. Document all the lies and deceit. Remind America of the 5 or 6 years of horrible economic and employment conditions and they should be able to regain the Senate. But again ... there is the stupid factor that Dems have on their side. Stupid as in voters who were stupid enough to vote for a Dem in the first place.

The electorate has not forgotten our party's responsibility for the Great Recession with some help from some of our Dem friends.

We Pubs need to run a not "me too" campaign but a "we can do it better" with real suggestions. We have not done that yet. We have not reached our clearly to women, Hispanics, etc.

If we don't, we for the third may not get the Senate majority that common sense dictates we should.

It is not the electorate's fault if they are not buying our message.

Your party meaning lying low-life Democrats?

Absolutely.

Why do you think nobody has done any time for it Snarkey?

 

[peach174]

Ruined lives? Whose?

It almost killed my Mother who was put on generic drugs to save money and she was allergic to both of them. Then it took her two months to get her blood pressure back to normal and one time she had to go to the emergency room because her blood pressure was over 200. They said she was very close to a stroke or heat attack.

Your mother?

Why would she be on Obamacare? Wouldn't she have Medicare?

Obamacare regulates the drug prices for everyone who has insurance.
They want to keep the drug prices low.
Every single one of us is under the Obama care rules and all insurances and Doctors and hospitals have to follow those rules.
Unless your very rich and can pay for it with your own money.

 

[rightwinger]

It almost killed my Mother who was put on generic drugs to save money and she was allergic to both of them. Then it took her two months to get her blood pressure back to normal and one time she had to go to the emergency room because her blood pressure was over 200. They said she was very close to a stroke or heat attack.

Your mother?

Why would she be on Obamacare? Wouldn't she have Medicare?

Obamacare regulates the drug prices for everyone who has insurance.
They want to keep the drug prices low.
Every single one of us is under the Obama care rules and all insurances and Doctors and hospitals have to follow those rules.
Unless your very rich and can pay for it with your own money.

No it doesn't.

Individual insurance plans may encourage generic drugs to save money, but Obamacare does not mandate it. Your mother is covered under Medicare and Medicare Part D ( a Bush program) prescription program.
Stop trying to blame every medical emergency on Obama

 

[JakeStarkey]

All the Republicans need to do is keep track of all the Obamacare horror stories sprouting up hither and thither. Save 'em up and bombard the lefties at just the right time. Document all the lies and deceit. Remind America of the 5 or 6 years of horrible economic and employment conditions and they should be able to regain the Senate. But again ... there is the stupid factor that Dems have on their side. Stupid as in voters who were stupid enough to vote for a Dem in the first place.

The electorate has not forgotten our party's responsibility for the Great Recession with some help from some of our Dem friends.

We Pubs need to run a not "me too" campaign but a "we can do it better" with real suggestions. We have not done that yet. We have not reached our clearly to women, Hispanics, etc.

If we don't, we for the third may not get the Senate majority that common sense dictates we should.

It is not the electorate's fault if they are not buying our message.

Your party meaning lying low-life Democrats?

Absolutely.

Why do you think nobody has done any time for it Snarkey?

You are being mental again.

No one in the mainstream GOP gives a shit about the far right wacks like you. That ended with body blows the Cruz and Lee foisted onto the Republicans in Congress. Like Boehner and McConnell and Hatch and Jinall and Ryan and others have said, never again. Why do you think the likes of Bachmann are jumping ship? We will get better Republicans now.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It almost killed my Mother who was put on generic drugs to save money and she was allergic to both of them. Then it took her two months to get her blood pressure back to normal and one time she had to go to the emergency room because her blood pressure was over 200. They said she was very close to a stroke or heat attack.

Your mother?

Why would she be on Obamacare? Wouldn't she have Medicare?

Obamacare regulates the drug prices for everyone who has insurance.
They want to keep the drug prices low.
Every single one of us is under the Obama care rules and all insurances and Doctors and hospitals have to follow those rules.
Unless your very rich and can pay for it with your own money.

You got caught lying. How do you feel?

 

[Synthaholic]

The dire predictions of an Obamacare collapse never materialized
Neither did a failed economy

The usual GOP fear mongering will not be a factor

Dems will hold 51 seats

I have to disagree, on the basis of electoral history.

The statistical probability that the GOP retains the House is pretty much 100%.

The probability that the GOP gets to 51 seats is well over 70%. 4 of the 6 seats they need are pretty much guaranteed at this point in time. Of course, if they lose KY and GA, then they would need 8 seats total.

Why is the probability so high?

Because at the end of the day, issues hardly have anything to do with it.

Traditionally, the opposition party has made sweeping gains in virtually every mid-term, ESP in a 2nd term mid-term. See: Eisenhower 1958, LBJ 1966, Nixon/Ford 1974, Reagan 1986, Bush 43 2006. The one notable exception of a 2nd term mid-term where it did not happen was Clinton 1998.

In 1958, Eisenhower (R) was at a peak in his popularity and yet, the Republicans got a pasting in the 1958 mid-terms. Ditto Reagan in 1986.


I posted these stats on January 14th, 2014, when hardly anyone was thinking about the mid-terms yet:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/elect...pared-to-presidential-terms-1855-present.html

Take a hard look at those numbers. Go to the link it provides and see the entire chart of all mid-terms since 1854 for yourself. Enlightening, the color-coding.

Electoral history stands strongly on the side of the GOP in the upcoming mid-term election.

But it does little to change anything: the Senate will be just as deadlocked then as it is now. In fact, a GOP controlled congress that starts fucking up right and left is likely to be a boondoggle for the Democratic national ticket in 2016.

You're dismissing O'Bama's luck of the Irish!

 

[Synthaholic]

I have quite a few liberal Dem friends and they are pretty pissed at what the liberal Dems are doing right now. They also say that they have had with the over reaching government.
Some are staying home, others are thinking about voting R which they haven't done for a very long time.
So I wouldn't put much stock on your poll.

I seriously doubt that.

 

[mudwhistle]

The electorate has not forgotten our party's responsibility for the Great Recession with some help from some of our Dem friends.

We Pubs need to run a not "me too" campaign but a "we can do it better" with real suggestions. We have not done that yet. We have not reached our clearly to women, Hispanics, etc.

If we don't, we for the third may not get the Senate majority that common sense dictates we should.

It is not the electorate's fault if they are not buying our message.

Your party meaning lying low-life Democrats?

Absolutely.

Why do you think nobody has done any time for it Snarkey?

You are being mental again.

No one in the mainstream GOP gives a shit about the far right wacks like you. That ended with body blows the Cruz and Lee foisted onto the Republicans in Congress. Like Boehner and McConnell and Hatch and Jinall and Ryan and others have said, never again. Why do you think the likes of Bachmann are jumping ship? We will get better Republicans now.

Whatever.

Who benefited from it?

Democraps.

Follow the money. That's who was responsible for the recession. Who stood to gain the most from taking the White House? The writers and beneficiaries of the ACA. They needed a Dem to sign that piece of shit.

 

[Synthaholic]

Dude.

STFU.

It's too early to tell.

But it has ruined a lot of lives. You'll never hear about that from the state run media.

The problem will be getting the real numbers. And that will be as hard as getting these fuckers to give up info on Fast & Furious, the IRS scandal, and everything else they've done. We won't really know till Obama is gone and in hiding on some island. Then it will become a game of make believe between Democrats and Republicans.

Ruined lives? Whose?

It almost killed my Mother who was put on generic drugs to save money and she was allergic to both of them. Then it took her two months to get her blood pressure back to normal and one time she had to go to the emergency room because her blood pressure was over 200. They said she was very close to a stroke or heat attack.

Then they weren't generic.

 

[peach174]

Your mother?

Why would she be on Obamacare? Wouldn't she have Medicare?

Obamacare regulates the drug prices for everyone who has insurance.
They want to keep the drug prices low.
Every single one of us is under the Obama care rules and all insurances and Doctors and hospitals have to follow those rules.
Unless your very rich and can pay for it with your own money.

No it doesn't.

Individual insurance plans may encourage generic drugs to save money, but Obamacare does not mandate it. Your mother is covered under Medicare and Medicare Part D ( a Bush program) prescription program.
Stop trying to blame every medical emergency on Obama

Every single Insurance and Drug company and Hospital are under the new regulations.
Her Doctor said that the new Health Care Law requires Doctors to use more generic brands of drugs. In order to save more money.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which President Obama signed on March 23, 2010, authorized the Food and Drug Administration to approve generic versions of biologic drugs.

 

[Synthaholic]

it's all going to come down to how much bullshit dems can generate that is believable.

last cycle they made it about everything except what was important, if they can do that again, they will keep the senate, if not, and the truth shines through, they won't

Yeah. Because most American voters are imbeciles and cannot tell when they are being lied to. Right?

The last election should have been about jobs, the economy, wasted and how worse things got.

But it was about utterly useless shit that has not been addressed since.

so yea, liberals believe everything the media tells them b/c they lack the intellect to think for themselves.

Income inequality has not been addressed since?

 

[Synthaholic]

The last election should have been about jobs, the economy, wasted and how worse things got.

But it was about utterly useless shit that has not been addressed since.

so yea, liberals believe everything the media tells them b/c they lack the intellect to think for themselves.

Sure. Everyone is stupid. The GOP can never win another election. You may have hit on something.

How worse things got? In what respect, Charlie?

$17 trillion in the hole
devalued dollar
ue still high
422 tax increases
Bundy debacle
tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off
you can keep your plan
you can keep your doctor
irs scandal
everyone pleading the 5th

Informed and honest people see these things and have to wonder wtf is going on.

but you don't see any of this as bad or use the excuse someone else did it, so it's ok for us to do it.

It's really sad to see what you guys give a pass to now, you are no different than the religious right, you want government to force your wants on everyone else, and don't see the tyranny.

You're still a moron.

 

[Synthaholic]

Sure. Everyone is stupid. The GOP can never win another election. You may have hit on something.

How worse things got? In what respect, Charlie?

$17 trillion in the hole
devalued dollar
ue still high
422 tax increases
Bundy debacle
tyrannical enforcement of the aca on citizen except those that bribed their way off
you can keep your plan
you can keep your doctor
irs scandal
everyone pleading the 5th

Informed and honest people see these things and have to wonder wtf is going on.

but you don't see any of this as bad or use the excuse someone else did it, so it's ok for us to do it.

It's really sad to see what you guys give a pass to now, you are no different than the religious right, you want government to force your wants on everyone else, and don't see the tyranny.

Silly list. Pick one. We'll discuss it for a minute.

Ooh! Ooh! I hope he picks 'Bundy debacle'!

 

[Leweman]

Yeah. Because most American voters are imbeciles and cannot tell when they are being lied to. Right?

The last election should have been about jobs, the economy, wasted and how worse things got.

But it was about utterly useless shit that has not been addressed since.

so yea, liberals believe everything the media tells them b/c they lack the intellect to think for themselves.

Income inequality has not been addressed since?

never in a serious manner

 

[Synthaholic]

The last election should have been about jobs, the economy, wasted and how worse things got.

But it was about utterly useless shit that has not been addressed since.

so yea, liberals believe everything the media tells them b/c they lack the intellect to think for themselves.

Income inequality has not been addressed since?

never in a serious manner

President Obama (praise be unto Him!) has used his executive authority to increase the minimum wage at companies who have government contracts.

I don't know what more he can do by himself.

What has John Boehner done about it?