We are living through the latest example of democracy eventually failing.

[struth]

So a right to liberty isn't the same as liberty itself. Then I'm back to not knowing what the fuck you're talking about. You either have liberty or you don't. Or you have a legal right to liberty or you don't. What is a natural right to liberty? A legal right to liberty is ensured through the force of government and goes away with government. What ensures natural rights?

Blame yourself for being unable to give a coherent description.

we were talking about natural rights, were we not? Yes, a right to something doesn't mean it's provided for you.

I tell you what, you have a right to an education, I suggest you exercise that right before coming and talking about things you are clueless on....then maybe you wouldn't look so foolish