17 little children. I remember do you?

[Rotagilla]

I remember it. Very well. Watched as the federal government murdered 17 kids.

I watched it also and remember the very long standoff where Koresh had every opportunity to release the children. Everyone knew this would end badly for the Branch Davidian. It is sad these wack people decided to take the children with them.

great plan..in order to "save" the children, the government had no choice but to kill them..Nice, neat solution..

The standoff lasted 51 days. I think that is plenty of warning that Koresh had to release the kids. Of course he couldn't do that because they had all been sexually abused and he would have released 17 witnesses of his pedophilia.

disinformation and govt propaganda......

you won't deny that the best way to "save" the children was for the government to kill all of them?

Nonsense. You are the liar here. I watched it in real time. You should be ashamed of your wanton lies.

I watched it too. The gvt murdered the children to "save" them....brilliant tactic...

 

[HUGGY]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

Who was charged with "murder"? Name them.

It was clear at that point that Koresh was attempting to commit suicide by cop and take all of his hostages with him.

conclusion "reached" with no evidence to support it...

You people that defend Koresh are disgusting. Your mindless hatred of Clinton and Reno is duly noted.

people that will turn troops loose to murder civilians and children deserve the reputations they have..

Ya Clinton was a POS. Ya Reno is/was as ugly as sin.

ok...

Let's not forget who was the cop killing committer of pedophilia and who was there just doing their lawful job.

Who was a "cop killing committer of pedophilia"? koresh? how many cops did he personally kill?

Tragically Koresh refused to spare the children.

tragically the gvt thinks murdering children will keep them "safe"...

Why not ask "how many of the 17 children did Koresh personally fuck?"

My bad. I assumed that Koresh was in charge of the Branch Davidians at Waco. I am just a stupid reactionary suggesting that the murder of 4 Fed cops and the wounding of another 16 ramps up the level of danger for the children in Koresh's possession.
If I was the unreasonable sort I could be accused of wanting the gubmint to do SOMETHING after a nearly two month standoff with some crazy religious fundamentalist suicidal cop killers.

But that's just me.

 

[HUGGY]

I watched it also and remember the very long standoff where Koresh had every opportunity to release the children. Everyone knew this would end badly for the Branch Davidian. It is sad these wack people decided to take the children with them.

great plan..in order to "save" the children, the government had no choice but to kill them..Nice, neat solution..

The standoff lasted 51 days. I think that is plenty of warning that Koresh had to release the kids. Of course he couldn't do that because they had all been sexually abused and he would have released 17 witnesses of his pedophilia.

disinformation and govt propaganda......

you won't deny that the best way to "save" the children was for the government to kill all of them?

Nonsense. You are the liar here. I watched it in real time. You should be ashamed of your wanton lies.

I watched it too. The gvt murdered the children to "save" them....brilliant tactic...

Oh..they snuck into the compound and shot the kids? All THIS while the lovely David Koresh was trying to save dem babbies?

 

[Rotagilla]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

Who was charged with "murder"? Name them.

It was clear at that point that Koresh was attempting to commit suicide by cop and take all of his hostages with him.

conclusion "reached" with no evidence to support it...

You people that defend Koresh are disgusting. Your mindless hatred of Clinton and Reno is duly noted.

people that will turn troops loose to murder civilians and children deserve the reputations they have..

Ya Clinton was a POS. Ya Reno is/was as ugly as sin.

ok...

Let's not forget who was the cop killing committer of pedophilia and who was there just doing their lawful job.

Who was a "cop killing committer of pedophilia"? koresh? how many cops did he personally kill?

Tragically Koresh refused to spare the children.

tragically the gvt thinks murdering children will keep them "safe"...

Why not ask "how many of the 17 children did Koresh personally fuck?"

My bad. I assumed that Koresh was in charge of the Branch Davidians at Waco. I am just a stupid reactionary suggesting that the murder of 4 Fed cops and the wounding of another 16 ramps up the level of danger for the children in Koresh's possession.
If I was the unreasonable sort I could be accused of wanting the gubmint to do SOMETHING after a nearly two month standoff with some crazy religious fundamentalist suicidal cop killers.

But that's just me.

no one was charged with murder....the rest of that you just made up based on what the gvt "told" people....

the fact remains the gvt killed all those people...men, women and children...

 

[Rotagilla]

great plan..in order to "save" the children, the government had no choice but to kill them..Nice, neat solution..

The standoff lasted 51 days. I think that is plenty of warning that Koresh had to release the kids. Of course he couldn't do that because they had all been sexually abused and he would have released 17 witnesses of his pedophilia.

disinformation and govt propaganda......

you won't deny that the best way to "save" the children was for the government to kill all of them?

Nonsense. You are the liar here. I watched it in real time. You should be ashamed of your wanton lies.

I watched it too. The gvt murdered the children to "save" them....brilliant tactic...

Oh..they snuck into the compound and shot the kids? All THIS while the lovely David Koresh was trying to save dem babbies?

right..read what you just wrote....utterly ridiculous...why are you trying to deflect now?

 

[Andylusion]

I remember it. Very well. Watched as the federal government murdered 17 kids.

Boy, you must have been really pissed when the U.S. government killed thousands of Iraqi kids about ten years later.

When did this happen?

 

[Muhammed]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

That is a lie. There was no lawful warrant.

 

[HUGGY]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

Who was charged with "murder"? Name them.

It was clear at that point that Koresh was attempting to commit suicide by cop and take all of his hostages with him.

conclusion "reached" with no evidence to support it...

You people that defend Koresh are disgusting. Your mindless hatred of Clinton and Reno is duly noted.

people that will turn troops loose to murder civilians and children deserve the reputations they have..

Ya Clinton was a POS. Ya Reno is/was as ugly as sin.

ok...

Let's not forget who was the cop killing committer of pedophilia and who was there just doing their lawful job.

Who was a "cop killing committer of pedophilia"? koresh? how many cops did he personally kill?

Tragically Koresh refused to spare the children.

tragically the gvt thinks murdering children will keep them "safe"...

Why not ask "how many of the 17 children did Koresh personally fuck?"

My bad. I assumed that Koresh was in charge of the Branch Davidians at Waco. I am just a stupid reactionary suggesting that the murder of 4 Fed cops and the wounding of another 16 ramps up the level of danger for the children in Koresh's possession.
If I was the unreasonable sort I could be accused of wanting the gubmint to do SOMETHING after a nearly two month standoff with some crazy religious fundamentalist suicidal cop killers.

But that's just me.

no one was charged with murder....the rest of that you just made up based on what the gvt "told" people....

the fact remains the gvt killed all those people...men, women and children...

"I was told?" No, Sorry Sparky, I watched it on live TV. Go ahead on and sell your nonsense to your willfully ignorant conspiracy theorists.

I saw what I saw and you are a liar.

When you are picking your hero's please do try to place decent people on that pedestal. Koresh was a disgusting piece of shit.

 

[HUGGY]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

That is a lie. There was no lawful warrant.

You are the liar.

 

[Muhammed]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

That is a lie. There was no lawful warrant.

You are the liar.

The warrant was fraudulent. This was proven a long time ago. You are simply ignorant of the facts.

 

[HUGGY]

Koresh is dead. That is good. The kids are dead. That is a horrible tragedy Koresh could have easily prevented.

You go ahead on and lie about it. I watched it in real time. You are pissing on the graves of the murdered FBI agents.

I'm done with you idiots.

 

[Rotagilla]

On Sunday Feb 28th the FBI attempted to serve a lawful warrant and in the process the Branch Davidians murdered 4 FBI agents and wounded 16 more.

Who was charged with "murder"? Name them.

It was clear at that point that Koresh was attempting to commit suicide by cop and take all of his hostages with him.

conclusion "reached" with no evidence to support it...

You people that defend Koresh are disgusting. Your mindless hatred of Clinton and Reno is duly noted.

people that will turn troops loose to murder civilians and children deserve the reputations they have..

Ya Clinton was a POS. Ya Reno is/was as ugly as sin.

ok...

Let's not forget who was the cop killing committer of pedophilia and who was there just doing their lawful job.

Who was a "cop killing committer of pedophilia"? koresh? how many cops did he personally kill?

Tragically Koresh refused to spare the children.

tragically the gvt thinks murdering children will keep them "safe"...

Why not ask "how many of the 17 children did Koresh personally fuck?"

My bad. I assumed that Koresh was in charge of the Branch Davidians at Waco. I am just a stupid reactionary suggesting that the murder of 4 Fed cops and the wounding of another 16 ramps up the level of danger for the children in Koresh's possession.
If I was the unreasonable sort I could be accused of wanting the gubmint to do SOMETHING after a nearly two month standoff with some crazy religious fundamentalist suicidal cop killers.

But that's just me.

no one was charged with murder....the rest of that you just made up based on what the gvt "told" people....

the fact remains the gvt killed all those people...men, women and children...

"I was told?" No, Sorry Sparky, I watched it on live TV. Go ahead on and sell your nonsense to your willfully ignorant conspiracy theorists.

You actually saw them making child porn and manufacturing drugs and abusing children?
Link to the video?

I saw what I saw and you are a liar.

what is the "lie"?..that the government killed those people? They're dead, aren't they?...who killed them? don't say "koresh" unless you actually saw him do it...

When you are picking your hero's please do try to place decent people on that pedestal. Koresh was a disgusting piece of shit.

weak attempt to disparage and smear...

when "you are picking your heroes" try to aim higher than clinton and reno...

 

[Rotagilla]

Koresh is dead. That is good. The kids are dead. That is a horrible tragedy Koresh could have easily prevented.

You go ahead on and lie about it. I watched it in real time. You are pissing on the graves of the murdered FBI agents.

I'm done with you idiots.

.
no one was charged with "murder", though, were they?..you seem woefully uninformed and are operating on emotion now...cursing and calling people names...

 

[JoeB131]

I see...facts don't matter...just toe the govt. line and obey.

You haven't presented any "Facts". The facts are that the Davidians killed themselves, after it was clear their fake messiah was going to prison.

Now, I will concede the FBI and especially the ATF fucked this up. They should have busted Koresh when he was going out buying ice cream on his sister-wives welfare checks.

 

[JoeB131]

no one was charged with "murder", though, were they?..you seem woefully uninformed and are operating on emotion now...cursing and calling people names...

Actually, they were charged with murder, and five of them were convicted.

The convicted Branch Davidians, who received sentences of up to 40 years,[80] were:

• Kevin A. Whitecliff—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Jaime Castillo—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Paul Gordon Fatta—convicted of conspiracy to possess machine guns and aiding Branch Davidian leader David Koresh in possessing machine guns.
• Renos Lenny Avraam (British national)—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Graeme Leonard Craddock (Australian national)—convicted of possessing a grenade and using or possessing a firearm during a crime.
• Brad Eugene Branch—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Livingstone Fagan (British national)—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Ruth Riddle (Canadian national)—convicted of using or carrying a weapon during a crime.
• Kathryn Schroeder—sentenced to three years after pleading guilty to a reduced charge of forcibly resisting arrest.

 

[Rotagilla]

I see...facts don't matter...just toe the govt. line and obey.

You haven't presented any "Facts". The facts are that the Davidians killed themselves,

who told you that?
source?

after it was clear their fake messiah was going to prison.

Oh?..he was convicted of what? When? When was he sentenced?

right....more fantasy...

Now, I will concede the FBI and especially the ATF fucked this up. They should have busted Koresh when he was going out buying ice cream on his sister-wives welfare checks.

how much ice cream did he usually buy?
what is a sister-wife?
how many did he have?
what were their names?
did the government kill all of them too?

 

[Rotagilla]

no one was charged with "murder", though, were they?..you seem woefully uninformed and are operating on emotion now...cursing and calling people names...

Actually, they were charged with murder, and five of them were convicted.

The convicted Branch Davidians, who received sentences of up to 40 years,[80] were:

• Kevin A. Whitecliff—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Jaime Castillo—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Paul Gordon Fatta—convicted of conspiracy to possess machine guns and aiding Branch Davidian leader David Koresh in possessing machine guns.
• Renos Lenny Avraam (British national)—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Graeme Leonard Craddock (Australian national)—convicted of possessing a grenade and using or possessing a firearm during a crime.
• Brad Eugene Branch—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Livingstone Fagan (British national)—convicted of voluntary manslaughter and using a firearm during a crime.
• Ruth Riddle (Canadian national)—convicted of using or carrying a weapon during a crime.
• Kathryn Schroeder—sentenced to three years after pleading guilty to a reduced charge of forcibly resisting arrest.

no murder convictions, I notice...thanks for confirming what I said...

 

[JoeB131]

no murder convictions, I notice...thanks for confirming what I said...

Distinction without a difference.

But you keep treating a child molesting cultist as a hero.

 

[Rotagilla]

no murder convictions, I notice...thanks for confirming what I said...

Distinction without a difference.

no difference between murder and manslaughter?..you need to consult a dictionary...

But you keep treating a child molesting cultist as a hero.

who told you he was a child molester?..the media?
When was he arrested and charged with "molesting children"?

regardless of that, though.... the way for the govt. to stop "child molesters" is to raid the place and kill all the children...I can see where that would work.

 

[ChrisL]

Weren't they some kind of sick cult that molested children and had an arsenal of illegal weapons?