Zalensky rejects peace....Trump halts all weapons shipments

[Zavulon]

And arent the people of Hong Kong happy to be communist slaves and worker ants?

Not at all

Many of them quite happy. But it's not the issue. The issue is that the Taiwanese are running out of choices. It's quite possible, that soon their only choice will be "fate of Hong Kong"/"fate of Ukraine". And many of them already ask themselves - "what can we do, to not allow Americans defend us?"

 

[AntonToo]

Tell us what he means by "security guarantees".

A military deterrent for Russian re-invasion. Be it NATO membership, some sort of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine or nuclear weapons.

It would be INSANE for Ukraine to give away their territories and not get these long term peace assurances.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

A military deterrent for Russian re-invasion. Be it NATO membership, some sort of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine or nuclear weapons.

It would be INSANE for Ukraine to give away their territories and not get these long term peace assurances.

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So why is he begging President Trump for these "security guarantees"? Doesn't have anything to do with us!




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[Zavulon]

You are seriously misinformed.

Zelenskyy is not asking for American troops to come fight Russians in Ukraine.

Zelensky wants security guarantees as part of peace plan. How else can you have an agreement with Russia that constantly breaks all their agreements? There has to be some sort of commitment from other countries to ensure Russia doesn’t simply regroup and invade again.

The only other alternative for Ukraine is to get Nukes again that they gave up when US, UK and Russia promised them defense assistance.

What kind of "guarantees"? Sometimes like "If the next time our Banderlogs want to commit another Odessa massacre, and people of Odessa fight them back, America should declare war to Russia"?

Without equal rights for Russians, I can guarantee, there will be rebellions in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, and those rebellions will be supported by Russian people. With or without Putin.

 

[AntonToo]

So why is he begging President Trump for these "security guarantees"? Doesn't have anything to do with us!

NATO membership or agreeing with Russia for peacekeeping forces has nothing to with US and Trump’s efforts to broker a peace deal?

You are completely ******* clueless.

 

[AntonToo]

What kind of "guarantees"? Sometimes like "If the next time our Banderlogs want to commit another Odessa massacre, and people of Odessa fight them back, America should declare war to Russia"?

Without equal rights for Russians, I can guarantee, there will be rebellions in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, and those rebellions will be supported by Russian people. With or without Putin.

I’m not going to reiterate same simple answer 10 different times, read the thread instead of posting already answered questions.

 

[AntonToo]

Chinese high speed rail network, we have nothing like it in the UK.
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Authoritarian regimes are often good at piling a lot of resources into narrow projects. It’s everything else they are bad at, especially when they are deeply corrupt.

USSR made some good war machines and successfully sent first man into space while their people lived in poverty and constant deficits.

 

[Mac-7]

Zavulon

Spin it however you like

Taiwanese are not chinese

 

[AntonToo]

There never was any “pee tape,”

Source.

 

[Zavulon]

A military deterrent for Russian re-invasion. Be it NATO membership, some sort of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine or nuclear weapons.

All three options means immediate war against Russia. War, that the USA can't win.

It would be INSANE for Ukraine to give away their territories and not get these long term peace assurances.

It was insane of Ukraine to talk about NATO membership or to discriminate, abuse and kill Russians.

 

[BackAgain]

Source.

Yes. Prove the claim that there ever was such an actual “tape” or stfu.

 

[Mac-7]

Many of them quite happy. But it's not the issue. The issue is that the Taiwanese are running out of choices. It's quite possible, that soon their only choice will be "fate of Hong Kong"/"fate of Ukraine". And many of them already ask themselves - "what can we do, to not allow Americans defend us?"

Dont put words in their mouth

The Taiwanese people consistently vote to reject communist china

 

[Zavulon]

Zavulon

Spin it however you like

Taiwanese are not chinese

If so, why do they call themselves "Republic of China"? And what exactly about the territory of foresaid "Republic of China" is written in their constitution?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Source.

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Only an idiot demands proof of a negative.


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[Deadstick]

Authoritarian regimes are often good at piling a lot of resources into narrow projects. It’s everything else they are bad at, especially when they are deeply corrupt.

USSR made some good war machines and successfully sent first man into space while their people lived in poverty and constant deficits.

Well that was worth it, spending billions putting a man on the Moon while your Country went to rat shit, you live under a authoritarian Regime you just don't know it.

 

[Deadstick]

And arent the people of Hong Kong happy to be communist slaves and worker ants?

Not at all

No idea did you ask them? they can leave if they don't like it, they can come to the UK but they won't get the reception they expect.

 

[Deadstick]

Um, we are throwing kids off campus for supporting Palestine. Some are even going to jail.

I don't think we get to whine about freedom.



Not really.

Thailand is pretty much in China's orbit right now.

The bastards who are always ranting about freedom don't believe in it, a NHS Doctor in the UK was suspended after someone reported a tweet he made in support of the Palestinians, he doesn't even know who reported him, and he isn't the only one freedom my arse

 

[AntonToo]

Well that was worth it, spending billions putting a man on the Moon while your Country went to rat shit, you live under a authoritarian Regime you just don't know it.

I don’t know it because it’s silly bullshit.

 

[Deadstick]

A military deterrent for Russian re-invasion. Be it NATO membership, some sort of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine or nuclear weapons.

It would be INSANE for Ukraine to give away their territories and not get these long term peace assurances.

You still don't get it, NATO will not be allowed in Ukraine or any other force masquerading as peacekeepers, we saw that con trick before in the Balkans and they are still there.

 

[Deadstick]

Zelenskyy wants American troops on the ground in Ukraine, not peace
That is why Trump threw him out of the White House.

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Thats it and he has been trying that shit for a long time.