Zone1 You're all a bunch of Jews for the most part, whether you like it or not

[TruthSeeker112125]

If you believe Moses was a prophet, congratulations! Your religion is built on the foundation of the Old Testament, and as such, it is Jewish.

Do whatever you have to do to cope with this: You most likely have Jewish roots.

Both Christianity and Islam are in fact, undeniably offshoots of Judaism.

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"Your religion is built on the foundation of the Old Testament, and as such, it is Jewish."

Not True.

The Old Testament is about the 13 physical tribes of the "Children of Yisrael".

The "Jews", per many Scriptures, are One Tribe, of the 13 Tribes, &/or the "House of Yudah/Judah" made up of the Tribes of Levi, Benyahmin,(Benjamin) , & Yudah( Judah).

The "Jews" are not, nor have ever been All of the "Children of Yisrael".

 

[rosends]

The "Jews", per many Scriptures, are One Tribe, of the 13 Tribes, &/or the "House of Yudah/Judah" made up of the Tribes of Levi, Benyahmin,(Benjamin) , & Yudah( Judah).

the "Jews" are the descendants of the Kingdom of Judah which included primarily 3 tribes, but had members of others who had fled the kingdom of Israel.

 

[candycorn]

From a Darwinian perspective, if religion offered no value, it would have died out long ago.

Never said it offers no value. I said the exact opposite in fact.

However if you worship ______ and what you worship doesn’t exist, it is a myth. The resulting solace isn’t….

 

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Never said it offers no value. I said the exact opposite in fact.

However if you worship ______ and what you worship doesn’t exist, it is a myth. The resulting solace isn’t….

Why do you suppose that is? And do you believe it is possible that it's more than just solace?

 

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Never said it offers no value. I said the exact opposite in fact.

Not in the post I replied to you didn't and it sure seemed to me that you were implying religion didn't offer any value. In fact it was fairly condescending (and not the good condescending) to represent my beliefs as some guy on a cloud controlling my fate. My perception of existence is a little more complex than that.

 

[luiza]

Do whatever you have to do to cope with this: You most likely have Jewish roots.

Both Christianity and Islam are in fact, undeniably offshoots of Judaism.

Not me Salty .
I have always been honest and responsible .
Prevents me qualifying

 

[DennisPTate]

Not me Salty .
I have always been honest and responsible .
Prevents me qualifying

Luiza, you might find it interesting that there is an ancient Jewish prediction of a Moshiach ben Yosef or Ephrayim person and the articles on this topic make it clear that this role could be fulfilled by either a man or by a woman?

I have an unusual suggestion for you and for everybody who reads this. I did this myself back in 1990 as I was going through something of a theological crisis. I literally raised my right hand up in the air and I paraphrased Isaiah chapter forty five. I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take my by the right hand as He had done with ancient Gentile King Cyrus. I asked Yeshua to correct me and show me clearly what I was doing wrong and even thinking wrong because I did not want to deceive others, [as I felt at that time that I had been given bad information on what really happens to us after we die].

For these past thirty six years I have been shown error, after error, after error after error in how I think and in how I behave. It is actually kind of wonderful even though this is not exactly easy.

Just to do something unique a woman might choose to raise her left hand if she was to pray while thinking about Isaiah 45?

1“Thus says the Lord to His anointed,
To Cyrus, whose right hand I have held—
To subdue nations before him
And loose the armor of kings,
To open before him the double doors,
So that the gates will not be shut:
2‘I will go before you
And make the crooked places straight;
I will break in pieces the gates of bronze
And cut the bars of iron.
3I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden riches of secret places,
That you may know that I, the Lord,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.
4For Jacob My servant’s sake,
And Israel My elect,
I have even called you by your name;
I have named you, though you have not known Me.
5I am the Lord, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me.
I will gird you, though you have not known Me,

Isaiah 45 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

Cyrus, God’s Instrument“Thus says the Lord to His anointed,To #Is. 44:28Cyrus, whose #Ps. 73:23; Is. 41:13right hand I have held—#Dan. 5:30To subdue nations before himAnd #Job 12:21;

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Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian and scholar Mr. Yair Davidiy links England and America with the prediction of a future "Moshiach ben or bat Yosef."

Since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 the USA has often helped protect the State of Israel from destruction. The USA has not however really helped Israel expand her borders. On the contrary the USA has often forced Israel to give up territories it had liberated and to constrict her borders, but maybe that will change. Maybe the USA and Britain will help Israel expand her borders in the future as the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is supposed to do. Ingathers the Exiles “Kol HaTor” says [2.40] “His [i.e. Joseph’s] bow abode in strength” (Genesis 49;24). This should be an important principle for us. We have to stand obstinately strong in the holy work of gathering in the exiles which is the task of the first redeemer [i.e. of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]. Purifies the Land of Israel “Kol HaTor” says [2.41] “And Joseph was governor over the land” (Genesis 42;6). This means he will overcome all the forces of impurity. This is one of the great tasks of the First Redeemer [of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]: to extirpate the spirit of impurity from the country by means of settling the Holy Land. When the Holy Land is not settled [with Israelites] a spirit of impurity settles over it. [When the Holy Land is settled with Israelites the Land becomes pure]. Joshua ben Nun Was a Forerunner “Kol HaTor” says [2.44]

The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:

[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.

We have noted elsewhere that one of the meanings of the verse in Malchi 4: of returning the hearts of the fathers to their sons, and the heart of the children to their fathers” is to make people aware of their Israelite Tribal Identity, to let people who are descended from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel know who they are and who their tribal forefathers most likely were. This is what Brit-Am is doing. Help brit-Am. If you can help Brit-Am please do so. Causes Non-Israelite Nations to Repent “Kol HaTor” says [2.75] The Messiah Son of Joseph arouses not only Israel but also the Peoples of the World to Repent. Jonah the Prophet had the aspect of MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in his generation. His task is, “to rebuke many nations” (Isaiah 2). Turns Defeat Into Victory “Kol HaTor” says [2.91] The characteristic of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is that out of tribulation he brings salvation. The Heavenly Ladder “Kol HaTor” says [2.97] A ladder on the ground and its head reaching to heaven (Genesis 28). This is an aspect of Joseph as is known. What happened to Jacob happened to Joseph. All of his deeds were an arousal from below with an accompanying assistance from heaven. Joseph was the son of Jacob and Rachel and had the characteristics of both Jacob and Rachel. Ingathers Exiles, Rebuilds Jerusalem, Settles the Wilderness “Kol HaTor” says [2.117] The rulership of Joseph overcomes all impurity.

The task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is to remove the spirit of impurity from the Land through the ingathering of exiles, rebuilding Jerusalem, and the planting of the wilderness. Ransoming Captives “Kol HaTor” says [2.118] “And the ransomed of the LORD shall return and come to Zion” (Isaiah 35;10): The task of ransoming captives belongs to the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH who performs it by ingathering the Exiles…The Major Ingathering of the Exiles cannot be less than 600,000…They will come with rejoicing and happiness. Comment: “Kol HaTor” says The Major Ingathering of Exiles cannot be less than 600,000. 600,000 was taken to be a key number. It is interesting to note that when Israel declared its Independence in 1948 the total Jewish population in the Land at that time was a bit more than 600,000 which was the key number mentioned by “Kol HaTor” about two hundred years beforehand. Reveals Secrets of the Torah “Kol HaTor” says [122] “And Pharoah called Joseph’s name Zaphenat Paneah” [i.e. Uncover of Secrets] (Genesis 41;45). One of the tasks of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in each generation is to reveal the secrets of the Torah. Horns of a Unicorn “Kol HaTor” says [131] “His horns are the horns of a unicorn with which he strikes the peoples” (Deuteronomy 33). The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. Comment: The horns of a unicorn are linked with the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. A unicorn is part of the symbol of Britain. Two unicorns appear on the Coat of Arms of Scotland. Many descendants of Joseph from Scotland migrated to North America. The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. “Amalek” represents the forces of Anti-Semitism.

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Bibliography

Jewish tradition speaks of two redeemers, each one called Mashiach. Both are involved in ushering in the Messianic era. They are Mashiach ben David and Mashiach ben Yossef.1

The term Mashiach unqualified always refers to Mashiach ben David (Mashiach the descendant of David) of the tribe of Judah. He is the actual (final) redeemer who shall rule in the Messianic age. All that was said in our text relates to him.

Mashiach ben Yossef (Mashiach the descendant of Joseph), of the tribe of Ephraim (son of Joseph), is also referred to as Mashiach ben Ephrayim, Mashiach the descendant of Ephraim.2 He will come first, before the final redeemer, and later will serve as his viceroy.3

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Mashiach-ben-Yossef.htm

Jeremiah 31:22, [Orthodox Jewish Bible]

"How long wilt thou dillydally, O Bat HaShovevah (backsliding daughter)? For Hashem barah chadashah (Hashem hath created a new thing) on ha’aretz; A nekevah (woman, female, i.e., Israel) shall encircle [seek out] a gever (man, male, i.e., G-d)."


"How long will you waver, O faithless daughter? For the Lord has created a new thing on the earth: a woman protects a man.”" [Jeremiah 31:22, RSV]