Your view on Socialism/Communism/Liberalism

[Mikeoxenormous]

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Guy, why did you ignore his point?

Venezuela is in trouble because oil revenues dropped from 900 Billion Bolivars a year to 159 billion.

So here you have a case of a society demanding it get to enjoy its own wealth and the system punishing it for doing so. and youa re so fine with this.

I saw how OPEC screwed over Venezuela by trying to cause our Fracking companies to go out of business. Unintended consequences? But what you "Ignored" was this

spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I guess you didn't notice but our FED while trying to prop up the US dictator, is printing money almost as fast, as the Weimar Republic did. In 1999 gold was $900 an ounce, today it is over $400 higher, yet the FED says there is no inflation. Someone is lying.

 

[owebo]

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Guy, why did you ignore his point?

Venezuela is in trouble because oil revenues dropped from 900 Billion Bolivars a year to 159 billion.

So here you have a case of a society demanding it get to enjoy its own wealth and the system punishing it for doing so. and youa re so fine with this.

I saw how OPEC screwed over Venezuela by trying to cause our Fracking companies to go out of business. Unintended consequences? But what you "Ignored" was this

spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I guess you didn't notice but our FED while trying to prop up the US dictator, is printing money almost as fast, as the Weimar Republic did. In 1999 gold was $900 an ounce, today it is over $400 higher, yet the FED says there is no inflation. Someone is lying.

Inflation is out of control.....

 

[Nosmo King]

The United States, Great Britain, Germany are all nations with healthy elements of socialism.

and massive debt

drop socialism and the debt drops and drops and no one dies or suffers, as is the myth

Let's tell Grandpa that he no longer should get his Social Security checks.

Better yet, tell the illegals and lazy democrat schlobs that their welfare checks will no longer arrive, see how long they sit on their couches, smoking dope, eating government cheese, and using their FREE cellphones. Soon they will be out there in Obama's roaring economic recovery working 29 fulltime hours, having to put their hard earned money into the social security fund<SARCASM>

There are, believe it or not, folks unable to find or hold jobs due to extenuating circumstances.

But the larger point is there simply aren't any nations that are 100% capitalist.

Venezuela is 100% socialist.....

They are eating zoo animals now to survive...

Okay.

Which nations are 100% capitalist?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why are you so hell bent on capitalism? Is it because some people aren't treated the same as others? Why is it the liberal Hollywood movie stars can make hundreds of millions of dollars in a year and some black burger flipper only gets $20,000 from McD's and then $35,000 in welfare benefits? As I said before, I worked for McD's as a burger flipper making $2.10 an hour, and realized that I would go no where if I stayed at that entry level job. So while I was only a high school graduate, I got skills on how to fix aircraft and after 9 1/2 years took my skills overseas to Saudi Arabia, and became quite wealthy. It wasn't me relying on government handouts, but my knowledge I developed and with my abilities became a valuable asset. I was paid for my worth. Since a professional athlete and movie start get paid millions of dollars their worth is much more. But when a government comes in and starts STEALING money from one group to give to another, eventually no one wants to work(as seen in Venezuela and any other Socialist country) and soon there is nothing left(like Detroit). Shame you are too uneducated in economics to realize this. There should be safety nets for those who cannot compete in the work force, but not 99 weeks for lazy schlobs who don't want to find a job in Obama's roaring economic recovery.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We have seen Bernie Sanders almost take the throne from Hillary Clinton. Except for the Super Delegates, he had the most votes. So what is so appealing about Socialism/Communism/Liberalism. Even Whoopi Goldberg, who has made millions of dollars from a Capitalist Society, says "that Communism works on paper, but, when Humans get placed in Charge, then it's nuts. So why do you all want Socialism?

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We have seen Bernie Sanders almost take the throne from Hillary Clinton. Except for the Super Delegates, he had the most votes. So what is so appealing about Socialism/Communism/Liberalism. Even Whoopi Goldberg, who has made millions of dollars from a Capitalist Society, says "that Communism works on paper, but, when Humans get placed in Charge, then it's nuts. So why do you all want Socialism?

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Why is it we keep hearing the liberals talk about FREE public education, yet the teachers WONT teach for FREE? Why is it that the liberals want US Citizens to pay more in taxes then avoid paying taxes that they champion? At one time, doctors would give pro bono medical to those in need, because those who could pay were happy enough to cover the costs to keep the doctor around. Healthcare was never a right, but a privilege, that people who worked were given healthcare benefits to attract better employees. Now that Obama has taken over the healthcare system everyone is suffering (expect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who wrote themselves out of the system) by having to pay more. Now let me show you some examples of what liberalism does.

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

New Obama tax-evasion scandal: Tom Daschle; Update: Even more evasion! - Hot Air

Daschle’s team claims that the former Senator deserves the credit for revealing the problem himself. Daschle did report this — but only after getting picked as HHS Secretary. If that sounds familiar, it’s because that’s when Geithner suddenly discovered that he owed Uncle Sam money too, only Daschle paid back a lot more: over $100,000

John Kerry Saves $500,000 By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We have seen Bernie Sanders almost take the throne from Hillary Clinton. Except for the Super Delegates, he had the most votes. So what is so appealing about Socialism/Communism/Liberalism. Even Whoopi Goldberg, who has made millions of dollars from a Capitalist Society, says "that Communism works on paper, but, when Humans get placed in Charge, then it's nuts. So why do you all want Socialism?

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Can you show me how that money is being used to benefit the people?

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Why is it we keep hearing the liberals talk about FREE public education, yet the teachers WONT teach for FREE? Why is it that the liberals want US Citizens to pay more in taxes then avoid paying taxes that they champion? At one time, doctors would give pro bono medical to those in need, because those who could pay were happy enough to cover the costs to keep the doctor around. Healthcare was never a right, but a privilege, that people who worked were given healthcare benefits to attract better employees. Now that Obama has taken over the healthcare system everyone is suffering (expect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who wrote themselves out of the system) by having to pay more. Now let me show you some examples of what liberalism does.

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

New Obama tax-evasion scandal: Tom Daschle; Update: Even more evasion! - Hot Air

Daschle’s team claims that the former Senator deserves the credit for revealing the problem himself. Daschle did report this — but only after getting picked as HHS Secretary. If that sounds familiar, it’s because that’s when Geithner suddenly discovered that he owed Uncle Sam money too, only Daschle paid back a lot more: over $100,000

John Kerry Saves $500,000 By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

Are you getting pissy about free education now?

Look, if your views are that people shouldn't be educated if they were unlucky enough to be born into poor families, and you're so unwilling to see the benefits of compulsory education for all, then I guess there's nothing I can do for you. You'll just have to accept that it exists in most countries in the world, and that it's a very good thing.

Why kids shouldn't be born into this world with equal opportunities to make it in this world, I don't know. The right go on about how kids are so innocent, can't have abortions because the fetus is so innocent. But the moment they're born they're judged on how much money their parents have and their life opportunities are defined by how much money their parents have.... seems a little contradictory to me.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Why is it we keep hearing the liberals talk about FREE public education, yet the teachers WONT teach for FREE? Why is it that the liberals want US Citizens to pay more in taxes then avoid paying taxes that they champion? At one time, doctors would give pro bono medical to those in need, because those who could pay were happy enough to cover the costs to keep the doctor around. Healthcare was never a right, but a privilege, that people who worked were given healthcare benefits to attract better employees. Now that Obama has taken over the healthcare system everyone is suffering (expect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who wrote themselves out of the system) by having to pay more. Now let me show you some examples of what liberalism does.

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

New Obama tax-evasion scandal: Tom Daschle; Update: Even more evasion! - Hot Air

Daschle’s team claims that the former Senator deserves the credit for revealing the problem himself. Daschle did report this — but only after getting picked as HHS Secretary. If that sounds familiar, it’s because that’s when Geithner suddenly discovered that he owed Uncle Sam money too, only Daschle paid back a lot more: over $100,000

John Kerry Saves $500,000 By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

Are you getting pissy about free education now?

Look, if your views are that people shouldn't be educated if they were unlucky enough to be born into poor families, and you're so unwilling to see the benefits of compulsory education for all, then I guess there's nothing I can do for you. You'll just have to accept that it exists in most countries in the world, and that it's a very good thing.

Why kids shouldn't be born into this world with equal opportunities to make it in this world, I don't know. The right go on about how kids are so innocent, can't have abortions because the fetus is so innocent. But the moment they're born they're judged on how much money their parents have and their life opportunities are defined by how much money their parents have.... seems a little contradictory to me.

Whoa, hold on tex. I just asked you a question that you conveniently avoided, let me ask it again, before you go on a liberal rant. Now focus on this question and please answer honestly, I know it will be hard but still try.

you said " Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few..."

I asked "Can you show me how that money is being used to benefit the people?"

So as long as everyone suffers equally, then no one should have more money than the others?

 

[Nosmo King]

There is no laissez faire Capitalism. Thank God! A 100% capitalist society would be in revolt within a generation. Capitalism, in its purest form, consumes everything except those with capital. Resources, the environment, the labor force, everything is seen as a commodity to be exploited. Capitalism REQUIRES checks on its consumption lest the beast destroys everything in its path.

This nation wasn't a pure Capitalist nation when huge land grants were made to the railroads to complete the transcontinental system. Theodore Roosevelt (r) did his level best to put checks on monopolistic trusts and the exploitation of natural resources. The rise of labor unions put market forces in play where the labor force was being exploited.

Let's be clear, a Capitalist economic system with appropriate checks applied is still the best economic system to operate under. But let's not try to champion pure Capitalism as an example of economic growth and success.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not a socialist, communist, whatever ist.

However Socialism can work for some things. Like health. In the US health is one of the biggest areas of corruption, it take up about 3% of US GDP alone. The British healthcare system would be a lot better if the Tories weren't trying to make it into the US system, claiming it's too expensive but then wanting a system that costs twice as much.

Most areas of business you need that competition, but when it comes to healthcare, competition seems to just add layers. Like health insurance. Why do you need to pay for health insurance, and then pay for the profits on top of this health insurance? You don't need to in the US.
The US system sees hospitals trying to keep you in hospital and give you too much care, in the UK they want you out of the hospital as quickly as possible. I've experienced hospitals in other countries (not US or UK) where you go, they demand you stay three weeks in a hospital bed because you need part of your finger sewing up. Or go to one hospital for a scan and be quoted 4 times more for the scan than at another hospital. It's crazy, but a socialized system with health works, and it's been proven to work, and is cheaper in the long run.

Prisons don't work well either. Too many problems when private companies take over. When it's in Louisiana and it's private prisons owned by the police, then the police are trying to get more people in prisons than there should be, they're essentially making sure those who leave prison will come back anyway, it's ridiculous.

Fire services don't work well when private, used to be the case in England back in the day.
Fire engines would turn up, see there was no plaque on the house and go home with the fire still blazing.

Okay lets take a look at this analogy.
Back in the day if you paid for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up and you would have your house saved, if you didn't pay your house would burn down.
Back in the day, if you paid for your retirement, when you retired you would end up having a nest egg to live on, if you didn't you would go hungry.
Back in the day if you worked hard, you would keep 97 cents on the dollar while the government took 3 cents so they could provide US citizens an army to keep out invasions.

Today, if you don't pay fire protection, you get it because your neighbor had to pay.
Today, if you didn't save for retirement, then you get a SS benefit(even if you didn't pay into it) because your neighbor had to pay.
Toady, if you don't work , you get Free cellphone, free food, free healthcare, while your neighbor has to pay for it.

Detroit is bankrupt because those that had to pay moved away, leaving a failed city and lots of poor people who couldn't move away. What part of that don't you understand?
Venezuela failed because the government made all the people who could pay, leave or took all their money, who stayed, now there isn't any money there.

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Can you show me how that money is being used to benefit the people?

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UNESCO: Education in Venezuela Has Greatly Improved

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UNESCO: Education in Venezuela Has Greatly Improved"

"According to a recently released UNESCO report on education, Venezuela’s number of children enrolled in school has significantly increased over the last 10 years"

"he 525 page report says that Venezuela’s EDI increased by 5.1% between 1999 and 2007 and by 2.4% between 2006 and 2007. The EDI attempts to measure progress according to access, equality, and quality of education, based on universal primary education, adult literacy, gender equality, and student survival rate to grade 5."

"Venezuela’s EDI ranks it 59th in a list of 128 countries, up from 64th three years ago."

"Also, according to the UNESCO report, Venezuela had around 93% enrolment in Primary school in 2007, up from 87% in 1999."

So 6% of kids are now getting an education when they weren't before.

Education in Venezuela: Reform, Expansion and an Uncertain Future - WENR

"Given the centralized nature of the education system, the 14-year rule of President Hugo Chávez, who died this March, was transformative at all levels, but especially so at the tertiary level. Under Chávez’s Bolivarian Missions social outreach program, launched in 2003, a focus on literacy programs and university preparatory programs greatly expanded educational opportunities to previously excluded groups from poor areas of the country. In conjunction with the introduction of open university admissions and the creation of new public universities, the university outreach programs have helped grow enrollments from 670,000 in 1998 to almost 2.5 million today."

"A new university, the Bolivarian University of Venezuela was created in 2003 for the masses, with enrollment open to all regardless of prior educational experience, qualifications or nationality. The university currently enrolls in excess of 180,000 students, with an eventual goal of enrolling one million students at campuses across the country. Graduates of the institution, currently numbering approximately 200,000, are expected to staff other social programs under the broader Social Missions network, staffing free public health clinics, literacy centers and government media outlets. Critics of the new institution see it as an arm of the government’s propaganda apparatus, ruled by Marxist doctrine, and a further challenge to traditional values of university autonomy within the country."

A Look at the Venezuelan Healthcare System

"The right to health care is guaranteed in the Venezuelan Constitution, which was written and ratified by the people in 1999."

"free comprehensive health care is available to all Venezuelans. Beginning in June 2003 through a trade pact with Cuba, Venezuela began to bring Cuban doctors, medical technology, and medications into rural and urban communities free of charge in exchange for low-cost oil."

"The extensive health program is also being used to train a new generation of Venezuelan doctors. The training program takes place within the clinic system itself and relies heavily on experiential learning."

However the economic problems have meant that healthcare has suffered massively.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Then again are you saying that the US is a worse place to live now for most people than it was in say, 1900?

Detroit is bankrupt because the industry it had failed. Simple as. This has nothing to do with what existed before. The fact that people left is a damning indictment on the US as a whole with its inability to deal with changes such as this. Most people just shrug their shoulders and blame taxes for it.

Venezuela has suffered massive problems because the price of oil has gone down. There were a lot of poor people in Venezuela who hadn't been included in education and were destined to remain poor. What Chavez attempted to do was to bring people out of that, people voted for him because he was going to change their lives for the better. Problem is he couldn't do it.

I'm now awaiting the point to your post.

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

According to the Miami-based Diario Las América

, Venezuelan media sources will soon publish materials showing that María Gabriela Chávez has bank accounts in the U.S. and Andorra with assets totaling nearly $4.2 billion.
Those figures stand in stark contrast to the overall state of the Venezuelan economy, which has been plagued by the collapse of oil prices, spiraling inflation rates caused by untenable fiscal policies and massive shortages of the most basic commodities, such as food, diapers and beauty products.

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Why is it we keep hearing the liberals talk about FREE public education, yet the teachers WONT teach for FREE? Why is it that the liberals want US Citizens to pay more in taxes then avoid paying taxes that they champion? At one time, doctors would give pro bono medical to those in need, because those who could pay were happy enough to cover the costs to keep the doctor around. Healthcare was never a right, but a privilege, that people who worked were given healthcare benefits to attract better employees. Now that Obama has taken over the healthcare system everyone is suffering (expect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who wrote themselves out of the system) by having to pay more. Now let me show you some examples of what liberalism does.

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

New Obama tax-evasion scandal: Tom Daschle; Update: Even more evasion! - Hot Air

Daschle’s team claims that the former Senator deserves the credit for revealing the problem himself. Daschle did report this — but only after getting picked as HHS Secretary. If that sounds familiar, it’s because that’s when Geithner suddenly discovered that he owed Uncle Sam money too, only Daschle paid back a lot more: over $100,000

John Kerry Saves $500,000 By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

Are you getting pissy about free education now?

Look, if your views are that people shouldn't be educated if they were unlucky enough to be born into poor families, and you're so unwilling to see the benefits of compulsory education for all, then I guess there's nothing I can do for you. You'll just have to accept that it exists in most countries in the world, and that it's a very good thing.

Why kids shouldn't be born into this world with equal opportunities to make it in this world, I don't know. The right go on about how kids are so innocent, can't have abortions because the fetus is so innocent. But the moment they're born they're judged on how much money their parents have and their life opportunities are defined by how much money their parents have.... seems a little contradictory to me.

Whoa, hold on tex. I just asked you a question that you conveniently avoided, let me ask it again, before you go on a liberal rant. Now focus on this question and please answer honestly, I know it will be hard but still try.

you said " Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few..."

I asked "Can you show me how that money is being used to benefit the people?"

So as long as everyone suffers equally, then no one should have more money than the others?

If you want me to focus on the question, can I suggest you cut the bravado? Too many people on here attack before they do anything else, and it's tiring.

Anyway, I answered that question.

As for equality being people having the same amount of money. No, that's not what I'm talking about. However when it comes to education, kids should all be given the chance to learn and to be able to make their way through life based on their abilities and no on how much money their parents have.

 

[320 Years of History]

I have a very strong preference for capitalism, the more laissez faire the better, IMO, but I suspect I'm in the minority on that. Basically, I consider ideas like communism and liberalism from an economic rather than political perspective.

Communism:

IMO, it works reasonably well in small and/or overwhelmingly homogeneous populations.
​

Socialism:

It's good for ensuring that the profit motive doesn't exclusively drive every decision.
​

Liberalism:

I don't have a strong opinion about liberalism; it's not an economic model of any sort. It's purely political.​

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The Constitution was created to provide the necessary means to afford ALL MEN the freedoms to succeed in America. It was progressive/liberal/Marxist/communist/socialist ideologues who wanted to keep people in slavery(white/black/yellow) because they thought other people weren't as smart as them. Just look today, how the education, media and political left constantly berate those who are on the system for when they try to leave end up being called Uncle Tom's, Oreos, or traitors to the cause. When Herman Cain pointed that out, he was attacked by the liberals through a White Democrat Female hack who "accused" him of sexual improprieties but never was charge for the "supposed" crime. A government of the people, for the people, has become an entity against the people. It was foreseen a while ago in this book.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written by the Austrian-born economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek between 1940 and 1943, in which he "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (and National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Yeah, sure just like Hillary said that she never sent or received Marked Classified material over her private server. Liberal lie, when caught in a lie they double down, so Hugo, who stole all the private investment companies assets in his Country, basically chasing out prosperity, soon, there was nothing left, because lazy people are just that lazy, and expect the government to sustain them, but when the money runs out, except for the liberal elite, people start to starve. Time after time, we have seen this disaster happen when Socialism takes over. But those in Charge always seem to be uber WEALTHY.

Hugo Chávez daughter is the richest individual in Venezuela, report claims

I'm not sure you quite understand the situation as it was in Venezuela. Chavez wasn't just giving out free money, he was EDUCATING PEOPLE, giving them healthcare, instead of allowing oil money to go into rich people's pockets.

I'm not defending Chavez, he messed up big time, I'm not a socialist or a communist at all, however if a country has natural resources in the amounts Venezuela has, why should this money go to a small elite of usually foreign people? Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few.

Corruption is a problem, with government, or with private companies the rich etc. Some things don't change. Venezuela was corrupt before Chavez and corrupt after him too.

Why is it we keep hearing the liberals talk about FREE public education, yet the teachers WONT teach for FREE? Why is it that the liberals want US Citizens to pay more in taxes then avoid paying taxes that they champion? At one time, doctors would give pro bono medical to those in need, because those who could pay were happy enough to cover the costs to keep the doctor around. Healthcare was never a right, but a privilege, that people who worked were given healthcare benefits to attract better employees. Now that Obama has taken over the healthcare system everyone is suffering (expect Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who wrote themselves out of the system) by having to pay more. Now let me show you some examples of what liberalism does.

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

Charlie Rangel Caught in Tax Fraud Scandal

New Obama tax-evasion scandal: Tom Daschle; Update: Even more evasion! - Hot Air John Kerry Saves $500,000 By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

Are you getting pissy about free education now?

Look, if your views are that people shouldn't be educated if they were unlucky enough to be born into poor families, and you're so unwilling to see the benefits of compulsory education for all, then I guess there's nothing I can do for you. You'll just have to accept that it exists in most countries in the world, and that it's a very good thing.

Why kids shouldn't be born into this world with equal opportunities to make it in this world, I don't know. The right go on about how kids are so innocent, can't have abortions because the fetus is so innocent. But the moment they're born they're judged on how much money their parents have and their life opportunities are defined by how much money their parents have.... seems a little contradictory to me.

Whoa, hold on tex. I just asked you a question that you conveniently avoided, let me ask it again, before you go on a liberal rant. Now focus on this question and please answer honestly, I know it will be hard but still try.

you said " Chavez took that money and used it for the benefit of the people, rather than the benefit of a few..."

I asked "Can you show me how that money is being used to benefit the people?"

So as long as everyone suffers equally, then no one should have more money than the others?

If you want me to focus on the question, can I suggest you cut the bravado? Too many people on here attack before they do anything else, and it's tiring.

Anyway, I answered that question.

As for equality being people having the same amount of money. No, that's not what I'm talking about. However when it comes to education, kids should all be given the chance to learn and to be able to make their way through life based on their abilities and no on how much money their parents have.

No you didn't answer the question, Today in Venezuela, the money he took from the producers to give to the non producers, how is life in Venezuela? Stop squirreling around with bogus answers because everyone there is miserable, as happens with Socialism all the time. If teachers teach how great socialism is, why don't those teachers work for free? Why do they want more pay raises putting them above the very people they say they are for? Hypocrite.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Okay, lets see if this awakens you from the Socialistic Lie that the liberals are having you fall for.

The 20 richest celebrities in the world
20. Gloria Estefan Age: 59 Net worth: $380 million Profession: Musician Country: US
19. Tyler Perry Age: 46 Net worth: $390 million Profession: Actor Country: US
18. Mel Gibson Age: 60 Net worth: $400 million Profession: Actor Country: Australia
17. Johnny Depp Age: 53 Net worth: $440 million Profession: Actor Country: US
14. TIE: Elton John Age: 69 Net worth: $470 million Profession: Musician Country: UK
14. TIE: Tom Hanks Age: 60 Net worth: $470 million Profession: Actor Country: US
14. TIE: Beyoncé Age: 34 Net worth: $470 million Profession: Musician Country: US
13. Mariah Carey Age: 46 Net worth: $520 million Profession: Musician Country: US
12. Tom Cruise Age: 54 Net worth: $540 million Profession: Actor Country: US
11. Shah Rukh Khan Age: 50 Net worth: $550 million Profession: Actor Country: India
10. Jay Z Age: 45 Net worth: $570 million Profession: Musician Country: US
9. LeBron James Age: 31 Net worth: $600 million Profession: Athlete Country: US
8. Bono Age: 56 Net worth: $610 million Profession: Musician Country: Ireland
7. Paul McCartney Age: 74 Net worth: $690 million Profession: Musician Country: UK
6. Céline Dion Age: 48 Net worth: $700 million Profession: Musician Country: Canada
5. Dr. Dre Age: 51 Net worth: $730 million Profession: Musician Country: US
4. P. Diddy Age: 46 Net worth: $780 million Profession: Musician Country: US
3. Jerry Seinfeld Age: 62 Net worth: $860 million Profession: Actor Country: US
2. Tiger Woods Age: 40 Net worth: $900 million Profession: Athlete Country: US
1. Madonna Age: 58 Net worth: $910 million Profession: Musician Country: US

How many people from Venezuela or Cuba are on the list? Are you willing to STEAL all the money from the black, white, latino, homosexual, man or woman in the list, so everyone can then be equal? Some of these people were very well educated, some weren't, is it the education or their abilities that enabled them to achieve huge success?

 

[JoeB131]

I guess you didn't notice but our FED while trying to prop up the US dictator, is printing money almost as fast, as the Weimar Republic did. In 1999 gold was $900 an ounce, today it is over $400 higher, yet the FED says there is no inflation. Someone is lying.

How much gold are you using? I mean, I think you can done only put so much in your teeth, Cleetus.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I guess you didn't notice but our FED while trying to prop up the US dictator, is printing money almost as fast, as the Weimar Republic did. In 1999 gold was $900 an ounce, today it is over $400 higher, yet the FED says there is no inflation. Someone is lying.

How much gold are you using? I mean, I think you can done only put so much in your teeth, Cleetus.

gee, I am trying to have a conversation here, and you know what, a liberal does the typical thing that liberals always do. Don't worry Joe, I have thick skin, so go ahead and insult all you want. You don't have the power over me to bother me. ROTFLMAO...

 

[JoeB131]

The Constitution was created to provide the necessary means to afford ALL MEN the freedoms to succeed in America. I

The Constitution was created by a bunch of slave raping assholes who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes. They certainly didn't want woman, blacks or native Americans to have the freedom to succceed, or for that matter, white men who didn't own land.

gee, I am trying to have a conversation here, and you know what, a liberal does the typical thing that liberals always do. Don't worry Joe, I have thick skin, so go ahead and insult all you want. You don't have the power over me to bother me.

You aren't trying to have a conversation. You are trying to find excuses to claim that Obama hasn't done a pretty good job of fixing the economy after Bush inflicted the worst recession in 80 years.

 

[JoeB131]

When Herman Cain pointed that out, he was attacked by the liberals through a White Democrat Female hack who "accused" him of sexual improprieties but never was charge for the "supposed" crime.

Actually, Uncle Tom Cain was accused by NUMEROUS women of these kinds of improprieties. And the only reason why anyone paid any attention to them is because for a week and a half, he became the "not Romney" you knuckled draggers clung to.

Yes, every election cycle, you guys find some Uncle Tom to validate your racism.

Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Ben Carson. "Shooore enough boss, them other negroes shooore be shiftless...."

And you never nominated one of these clowns, because they are clowns. But you can claim to be totally not racist because you considered it for a minute and a half.