Young Conservative DESTROYS gay rights fascists

[JakeStarkey]

[I made no such statement, I only speak from my own experiences with gays. So, , don't put words in my mouth, and your little baiting trial, failed, as do most of your posts!

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

 

[Vigilante]

No one has heard of ‘left-wing fascism,’ and for good reason: there is no such thing.

Fascism exists on the right side of the political spectrum.

I see we have another elitist left winger, such as Pogo, that believes his own bullshit...Google it, dummy!

Fascism, a one party government dominated by a Leader that eschews democracy and encourages corporatism (government and business), is the hope of the Far Right and their no information people, like Vigilante

Where do these people come from?....Fascism and Marxism are the two primary forms of Socialism! Yes, SOCIALISM is a RIGHT WING FUNDAMENTAL.... Someone save us from abject stupidity!

 

[bodecea]

[I made no such statement, I only speak from my own experiences with gays. So, , don't put words in my mouth, and your little baiting trial, failed, as do most of your posts!

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

Indeed.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I was once invited to the wedding of two friends, both of whom are gay. Only reason I declined was the cost of the travel to the state where they married. I did send regrets and a gift and invite them to stay with my family should their adventures bring them my way.

All of that sincere. I had worked with one of them and found him to be kind, fun to associate with and respectful of the orientation of others. Also one of the best workers in the facility.

The marriage has lasted over 10 years so far and shows no signs of weakening. They have confined their adoptive tendencies to canines which have exhibited only heterosexual tendencies so any question of contagion is laid to rest. Of course lower life forms, liberals, for example, might not enjoy immunity.

Let us put on out thinking caps and see how smart you are. The state just passed a law that, in essence, requires you to attend every wedding you are invited to. It doesn't matter who invites you, you have to go because, well, that is the law, and not going would be discrimination and hate.

Would you think that law was right?

 

[Vigilante]

[I made no such statement, I only speak from my own experiences with gays. So, , don't put words in my mouth, and your little baiting trial, failed, as do most of your posts!

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

Yes, observation, is a hard concept for you to deal with, when everything you have to offer fails! But, subversives are so easy to ***** slap!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I used to love being a bouncer at gay bars because I could legally beat the shit out of them.

That's true tolerance. How very civilized and Christ-like.

Please stop pretending you know more about Jesus than people who actually know that he beat the crap out of people that pissed him off.

 

[TheOldSchool]

[I made no such statement, I only speak from my own experiences with gays. So, , don't put words in my mouth, and your little baiting trial, failed, as do most of your posts!

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

Indeed.

I guess he loves to gobble it down

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So you're against equality?

What was the matter with "CIVIL UNION" with EXACTLY the same entitlements as a married man and woman?

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Probably for the same reason you do.

What was that? You didn't know you were dominating the definition of a word? What the **** did you think you were doing?

 

[Vigilante]

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

Indeed.

I guess he loves to gobble it down

Ah, yes. Alinsky's RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

I don't hurt, words can't hurt me, but the elitist left can't handle being shot down, again, and again, and again, etc.!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

BUT YOU ARE DIFFERENT, if you weren't, you wouldn't be GAY! Two men, or 2 women are NOT the same as a man and a woman...need I explain the difference? You would have EXACTLY the same rights from the government as a married couple have. And YES, religion, and tradition ARE factors in beliefs about GAYS, that's why IN THE CONSTITUTION we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Because YOU, and others don't like it, what makes YOU and others think they're rights are ABOVE others...and this coming from an agnostic!

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

Why do you keep arguing against your position? Is it because you are an idiot that doesn't think things through?

 

[Coloradomtnman]

I used to love being a bouncer at gay bars because I could legally beat the shit out of them.

That's true tolerance. How very civilized and Christ-like.

Please stop pretending you know more about Jesus than people who actually know that he beat the crap out of people that pissed him off.

Huh?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Bigotry and homophobia are characteristics of the uneducated and ignorant.

It's safe to say those who embrace equality of all are the winners.

The belief that the only type of bigotry is homophobia is characteristic of idiots.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Gay rights and fascism are ideological opposites.

Read Hitler. The far right reactonary social conservatives have much to regret in their hetero-fascism.

Tell that to the gay fascists.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So you're against equality?

What was the matter with "CIVIL UNION" with EXACTLY the same entitlements as a married man and woman?

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Different is not equal?
That is a ridiculous concept. Check that..It's absurd.
So...Let's see...Men and women are different....People of various races are different.
Various religions are different.
Several years ago radical feminists went ballistic over a study that concluded men and women process information differently. Their claim was that human nature would require us to compare the two and then declare one must be better than the other.
Feminists feared that because if people discovered the thought patterns were different, they would determine that the way men processed information was "better" or superior to that of women.
No one is being oppressed. That's a lame talking point.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

What was the matter with "CIVIL UNION" with EXACTLY the same entitlements as a married man and woman?

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Probably for the same reason you do.

What was that? You didn't know you were dominating the definition of a word? What the **** did you think you were doing?

Those who support equal rights for all, to include same-sex marriage, aren't arguing about the definition of a word, but actual equality. Have you heard arguments to change the definition of marriage or have you heard arguments NOT to change the definition of marriage? Conservatives use the "Don't change the definition of marriage" argument. Those who want equality just argue for equality.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

BUT YOU ARE DIFFERENT, if you weren't, you wouldn't be GAY! Two men, or 2 women are NOT the same as a man and a woman...need I explain the difference? You would have EXACTLY the same rights from the government as a married couple have. And YES, religion, and tradition ARE factors in beliefs about GAYS, that's why IN THE CONSTITUTION we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Because YOU, and others don't like it, what makes YOU and others think they're rights are ABOVE others...and this coming from an agnostic!

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

Why do you keep arguing against your position? Is it because you are an idiot that doesn't think things through?

The ad hominem doesn't strengthen your position. Address the rest of the arguments if you would like to discuss the topic.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

What was the matter with "CIVIL UNION" with EXACTLY the same entitlements as a married man and woman?

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Different is not equal?
That is a ridiculous concept. Check that..It's absurd.
So...Let's see...Men and women are different....People of various races are different.
Various religions are different.
Several years ago radical feminists went ballistic over a study that concluded men and women process information differently. Their claim was that human nature would require us to compare the two and then declare one must be better than the other.
Feminists feared that because if people discovered the thought patterns were different, they would determine that the way men processed information was "better" or superior to that of women.
No one is being oppressed. That's a lame talking point.

Different under THE LAW.

If the Law treats people differently, then we are not all equal under THE LAW.

I hope that helps make my argument clearer for you.

 

[GISMYS]

The Lord can rescue you and me from the temptations that surround us, and continue to punish the ungodly until the day of final judgment comes. 10 He is especially hard on those who follow their own evil, lustful thoughts. 2 PETER 2:9-10==God let go of them and let them do all these evil things, so that even their women turned against God’s natural plan for them and indulged in sex sin with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sex relationships with women, burned with lust for each other, men doing shameful things with other men and, as a result, getting paid within their own souls with the penalty they so richly deserved.

28 So it was that when they gave God up and would not even acknowledge him, God gave them up to doing everything their evil minds could think of. 29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness and sin, of greed and hate, envy, murder, fighting, lying, bitterness, and gossip.

30 They were backbiters, haters of God, insolent, proud, braggarts, always thinking of new ways of sinning and continually being disobedient to their parents. 31 They tried to misunderstand, broke their promises, and were heartless—without pity. 32 They were fully aware of God’s death penalty for these crimes, yet they went right ahead and did them anyway and encouraged others to do them, too.
Romans 1:26-32== Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals—will have no share in his Kingdom. There was a time when some of you were just like that but now your sins are washed away, and you are set apart for God; and he has accepted you because of what the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God have done for you.
1 corinthians 6:9 ==If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. leviticus 20:13

 

[Coloradomtnman]

GISMYS - quoting the Bible is not a compelling argument to those who don't already believe that it is a holy book.

 

[Pop23]

Young Conservative DESTROYS gay rights fascists

Actually not.

This is only a ‘young conservative’ exhibiting his ignorance of the Constitution and it’s case law.

For example:

Marriage has, had, and always will have, by definition, a certain character and purpose; a character and purpose centered around, above all things, the family. Marriage is the foundation through which a thriving and lasting civilization sees to the propagation of itself. Human beings can only reproduce by means of ‘heterosexuality,’ and this reality sets the ‘heterosexual’ union apart. Marriage is meant to be the context in which this reproduction occurs.

Marriage is many things, but it is also this. And ‘this’ can never be removed from it, no matter the direction of the political winds, or the motion of the shifting sands of public opinion.

Marriage and the family are dimensions of the same whole. They cannot be detached from one another. They, as a whole, as an institution, can only be weakened — not erased or redefined. And so the campaign to protect and strengthen the institution was and is designed to do just that. It was never about ‘legislating love’ or imposing intolerance or ‘discriminating against gay people,’ or any other silly bumper sticker platitude.

Marriage is contract law, written by the states and administered by state courts; and same-sex couples are currently eligible to enter into marriage contracts, unchanged, and not ‘redefined.’

To deny same-sex couples access to marriage law they’re eligible to participate in, therefore, is indeed to discriminate against gay Americans, and to violate their 14th Amendment right to equal protection of the law.

And the ability to procreate is not a prerequisite for entering into marriage, as opposite-sex couples who are infertile are allowed to marry, and older opposite-sex couples where the wife has realized menopause are not compelled by the state to divorce.

Consequently, the ‘young conservative’s’ ‘argument’ fails as just another manifestation of anger, ignorance, hate, and fear by the right.

The right to reproductive privacy would only apply to those that can reproduce.