You really don't want Biden to testify...

[BULLDOG]

What a stupid hyperbolic remark. Trump could have participated, but he chose not to.

Trump's lawyers were barred from attending.

Trump and the GOP committee members were both barred from calling witnesses. (Sound familiar?)

The GOP committee members weren't allowed to ask questions of the witness that Shiffft didn't approve of.

Those are Gestapo tactics. My remarks were not hyperbolic.

Those are certainly the accusations that the right has made. It's all bullshit, but they did make those claims.

Either you didn't see the House hearings, or you're a liar.

My post was 100% true.

Trump’s lawyers weren’t barred from attending. They chose not to.

White House, in fiery letter, declares Trump won’t participate in House Judiciary impeachment hearing

I expert you’ll find a new excuse and not admit your mistake.

they weren't going to attend a kangaroo court, they sent letters to have the left adjust the format. See the format wouldn't allow questions from the Trump team. well why would someone go to a party they can't actually participate in? that seems like giving credence to the party. we understand it was a DNC bash, A barnyard bash,

No. You're still trying to twist it till you can hang on to your original silly claims. It wasn't like that at all. Trump refused to participate. That's all there is to it.

 

[DBA]

If you wanted to purchase influence in the Obama admin, Bidens were fir sale.

Except there’s no evidence of that.

Buying influence in the Trump administration is easy. Just plaster your face all over Fox News. Or, even easier, buy a membership to his club.

It hasn't been investigated yet, which is the entire point. It looks nefarious for certain.

It hasn’t been investigated because Trump didn’t take it to the DoJ. Trump doesn’t want an actual investigation.

Why would Trump not want an investigation into Biden? Is it to the benefit of the US to root out corruption in our government? Yes. Is there enough there there to warrant an investigation? Absolutely, with Biden's son on the board of one of the corporation being investigated and charged with tax evasion. For these two reasons alone, Trump's call with the Ukraine was completely justified and within his rights and obligations as the President of the United States. Does it ALSO happen to help him politically? Maybe, depending on if Joe is the nominee, but that is irrelevant given the other evidence. Maybe if the Democrats would stop running career crooked politicians they may not find themselves in this mess.

Hunter Biden has not been charged with tax evasion.

It was not illegal for him to sit on that board.

It was not illegal for Joe Biden to condition aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor.

Now if those two are connected, it would be. Is there any evidence those two are connected?

It is potentially illegal for Joe Biden to condition US aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor if done so to prevent his son from being caught up in an investigation. That is what we are talking about here. Just like Trump, it is all about intent. Republicans would have to prove Joe's intent, just as Democrats have to prove Trump's intent. It is not likely in either case.

 

[jc456]

Except there’s no evidence of that.

Buying influence in the Trump administration is easy. Just plaster your face all over Fox News. Or, even easier, buy a membership to his club.

It hasn't been investigated yet, which is the entire point. It looks nefarious for certain.

It hasn’t been investigated because Trump didn’t take it to the DoJ. Trump doesn’t want an actual investigation.

Why would Trump not want an investigation into Biden? Is it to the benefit of the US to root out corruption in our government? Yes. Is there enough there there to warrant an investigation? Absolutely, with Biden's son on the board of one of the corporation being investigated and charged with tax evasion. For these two reasons alone, Trump's call with the Ukraine was completely justified and within his rights and obligations as the President of the United States. Does it ALSO happen to help him politically? Maybe, depending on if Joe is the nominee, but that is irrelevant given the other evidence. Maybe if the Democrats would stop running career crooked politicians they may not find themselves in this mess.

Hunter Biden has not been charged with tax evasion.

It was not illegal for him to sit on that board.

It was not illegal for Joe Biden to condition aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor.

Now if those two are connected, it would be. Is there any evidence those two are connected?

It is potentially illegal for Joe Biden to condition US aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor if done so to prevent his son from being caught up in an investigation. That is what we are talking about here. Just like Trump, it is all about intent. Republicans would have to prove Joe's intent, just as Democrats have to prove Trump's intent. It is not likely in either case.

Hey, didn’t the congress want 33k of email’s from hitlery. Where are those?

 

[Terri4Trump]

You really don't want Biden to testify...

I want that senile fuck to testify every day!! LOL. Thats entertainment

 

[basquebromance]

You really don't want Biden to testify...

I want that senile fuck to testify every day!! LOL. Thats entertainment

let's get one thing straight, jack! the reason Trump's ass is on trial right now is that he was afraid to face Biden in an election, and now Trump knows he is destined to lose to Middle Class Joe in November!

 

[easyt65]

This thread is hilarious - Biden has already testified. He gave his videotaped confession!




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[JoeB131]

Could be.

You make a strong case for Joe Biden to testify about his corruption.

This is about what Trump did, not Biden.

Kind of like we don't let cops illegally break into your house looking for evidence.

 

[JoeB131]

It is potentially illegal for Joe Biden to condition US aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor if done so to prevent his son from being caught up in an investigation. That is what we are talking about here. Just like Trump, it is all about intent. Republicans would have to prove Joe's intent, just as Democrats have to prove Trump's intent. It is not likely in either case.

Except the prosecutor wasn't invesigating, he was taking bribes. That's why he was dismissed at the insistence of the EU, IMF and even the US Congress.

 

[IM2]

This thread is hilarious - Biden has already testified. He gave his videotaped confession!




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No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

 

[IM2]

You really don't want Biden to testify...

I want that senile fuck to testify every day!! LOL. Thats entertainment

No you really don't. You'll be told how what he was doing was supported by the western world and the UKRAINIAN RADA.

 

[DBA]

This thread is hilarious - Biden has already testified. He gave his videotaped confession!




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No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

The video tape is not what YOU think. It is Biden saying he is holding up aid to a foreign country unless they do what Obama wanted. I could have sworn this has been argued as a basis for Trump's impeachment. Was the aid Obama/Biden withheld appropriated by Congress?

 

[Paulie]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

Um, I thought the House was supposed to present evidence from witnesses

And they have presented evidence from their investigation. This is now the trial. Trials have witnesses.

Evidence of WHAT? Nobody has ever claimed anything other than “I heard”. Not a single jury in this country would convict someone on hearsay. Now you want Bolton because you’re convinced he’s got something you need. Guess what.. he doesn’t

 

[Paulie]

Why do you people entertain this IM2 cat? There’s no way this poster isn’t a paid shill. Nobody could be this stupid by accident

 

[easyt65]

No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

Bwuhahahahahaha.........

I laugh my ass off every time some triggered snowflake tries to convince THEMSELVES that a videotape of Joe Biden bragging about how he threatened the previous Ukraine PM that unless he fired his top prosecutor In the next 6 hours he was going to get on his plane and take his money with him is NOT a confession of extortion.

EXTORTION:
"Obtaining money, favors, or compliance through force of threat"

What Biden confesses to on the videotape is the very definition of the word 'Extortion', lil' TDS-suffering snowflake.

The attempted justification by snowflakes claiming ''everyone' wanted the Ukraine Prosecutor fired' does not take away the fact that Joe Biden got the Ukraine Prosecutor fired through extortion!

But I am glad we agree that Biden doesn't have to testify - his videotaped confession speaks for itself.


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[colfax_m]

Except there’s no evidence of that.

Buying influence in the Trump administration is easy. Just plaster your face all over Fox News. Or, even easier, buy a membership to his club.

It hasn't been investigated yet, which is the entire point. It looks nefarious for certain.

It hasn’t been investigated because Trump didn’t take it to the DoJ. Trump doesn’t want an actual investigation.

Why would Trump not want an investigation into Biden? Is it to the benefit of the US to root out corruption in our government? Yes. Is there enough there there to warrant an investigation? Absolutely, with Biden's son on the board of one of the corporation being investigated and charged with tax evasion. For these two reasons alone, Trump's call with the Ukraine was completely justified and within his rights and obligations as the President of the United States. Does it ALSO happen to help him politically? Maybe, depending on if Joe is the nominee, but that is irrelevant given the other evidence. Maybe if the Democrats would stop running career crooked politicians they may not find themselves in this mess.

Hunter Biden has not been charged with tax evasion.

It was not illegal for him to sit on that board.

It was not illegal for Joe Biden to condition aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor.

Now if those two are connected, it would be. Is there any evidence those two are connected?

It is potentially illegal for Joe Biden to condition US aid on the dismissal of the prosecutor if done so to prevent his son from being caught up in an investigation. That is what we are talking about here. Just like Trump, it is all about intent. Republicans would have to prove Joe's intent, just as Democrats have to prove Trump's intent. It is not likely in either case.

So how would you go about proving either?

 

[colfax_m]

No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

Bwuhahahahahaha.........

I laugh my ass off every time some triggered snowflake tries to convince THEMSELVES that a videotape of Joe Biden bragging about how he threatened the previous Ukraine PM that unless he fired his top prosecutor In the next 6 hours he was going to get on his plane and take his money with him is NOT a confession of extortion.

EXTORTION:
"Obtaining money, favors, or compliance through force of threat"

What Biden confesses to on the videotape is the very definition of the word 'Extortion', lil' TDS-suffering snowflake.

The attempted justification by snowflakes claiming ''everyone' wanted the Ukraine Prosecutor fired' does not take away the fact that Joe Biden got the Ukraine Prosecutor fired through extortion!

But I am glad we agree that Biden doesn't have to testify - his videotaped confession speaks for itself.


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What “force of threat” did he confess to?

 

[easyt65]

No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

Bwuhahahahahaha.........

I laugh my ass off every time some triggered snowflake tries to convince THEMSELVES that a videotape of Joe Biden bragging about how he threatened the previous Ukraine PM that unless he fired his top prosecutor In the next 6 hours he was going to get on his plane and take his money with him is NOT a confession of extortion.

EXTORTION:
"Obtaining money, favors, or compliance through force of threat"

What Biden confesses to on the videotape is the very definition of the word 'Extortion', lil' TDS-suffering snowflake.

The attempted justification by snowflakes claiming ''everyone' wanted the Ukraine Prosecutor fired' does not take away the fact that Joe Biden got the Ukraine Prosecutor fired through extortion!

But I am glad we agree that Biden doesn't have to testify - his videotaped confession speaks for itself.


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What “force of threat” did he confess to?

Not only are you an idiot......y o u' r e s l o w.....

 

[colfax_m]

No he didn't testify. That videotape is not what you think.

Bwuhahahahahaha.........

I laugh my ass off every time some triggered snowflake tries to convince THEMSELVES that a videotape of Joe Biden bragging about how he threatened the previous Ukraine PM that unless he fired his top prosecutor In the next 6 hours he was going to get on his plane and take his money with him is NOT a confession of extortion.

EXTORTION:
"Obtaining money, favors, or compliance through force of threat"

What Biden confesses to on the videotape is the very definition of the word 'Extortion', lil' TDS-suffering snowflake.

The attempted justification by snowflakes claiming ''everyone' wanted the Ukraine Prosecutor fired' does not take away the fact that Joe Biden got the Ukraine Prosecutor fired through extortion!

But I am glad we agree that Biden doesn't have to testify - his videotaped confession speaks for itself.


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What “force of threat” did he confess to?

Not only are you an idiot......y o u' r e s l o w.....

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Here’s a clue. Threatening not to give Ukraine our money is not a force of threat. They’re not entitled to it.
Doofus.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You really don't want Biden to testify...

I do

You say you do because you're dumb enough to believe trump. If you weren't, you would know that if Biden was to testify, it would kill trump and every hope republicans had in retaining the senate next year.

Then what are you and the Democrats afraid of? If it's going to be so damaging to Trump let's get the Biden's on the "stand" and hear from them. Let's settle this issue once and for all so America can move on. If it's as you say, you'd think Biden would be pushing for this.

 

[JWBooth]

You really don't want Biden to testify...

Because you then are going to <snipped>

Moot point now