Yet ANOTHER shooting

[DavidS]

Five dead in apparent murder-suicide | TimesDaily.com | The Times Daily | Florence, AL

Ugh. The crazies have been out in full force as of late. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if more people had less restrictive gun laws and carried concealed guns, people like this would be too chicken shit for fear of getting their brains blown out.

It's time to ease gun laws so more people can protect themselves in an environment like this.

 

[KittenKoder]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

 

[editec]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

 

[KittenKoder]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

So ... according to you it's possible to exaggerate all the terrorist threats (which I don't disagree with that) but not gun violence in America?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

And yet more people die every day due to car accidents, where is the reporting on that? How about all the people killed by Doctors, last I checked that is even higher then car accidents.

This is nothing more then the press aiding Obama in an effort to sell gun control.

 

[Yurt]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

really....so would you say the same for those places in africa where war is going on? what about suicide bombers.....

 

[ItsFairmont]

This isn't a matter of guns being the problem.

It's just a bunch of a-holes with no souls who don't understand that they're going to burn in hell.

That's all.

 

[eots]

guaranteed he was on neuroleptic and psychotropic drugs...the one thing all these shooters have in common...without exception

 

[dilloduck]

guaranteed he was on neuroleptic and psychotropic drugs...the one thing all these shooters have in common...without exception

They have to do something to kill the demons---we ain't allowed to burn them at the stake anymore.

 

[Yurt]

guaranteed he was on neuroleptic and psychotropic drugs...the one thing all these shooters have in common...without exception

takes one to know one....

 

[neurosport]

Five dead in apparent murder-suicide | TimesDaily.com | The Times Daily | Florence, AL

Ugh. The crazies have been out in full force as of late. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if more people had less restrictive gun laws and carried concealed guns, people like this would be too chicken shit for fear of getting their brains blown out.

so fear of death would stop the suiciders ...

if you say so !

 

[eots]

guaranteed he was on neuroleptic and psychotropic drugs...the one thing all these shooters have in common...without exception

takes one to know one....

its just the facts check out all the shooter from combine on.. it is even on the prescription labeling now thanks to intelligence determined and conscientious individuals such as myself

.....caution can cause suicidal or violent thoughts...

but then reality and facts are not really your thing....




The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.



However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)



Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.


Side Effects of Antidepressants | Clinical-Depression.co.uk

 

[RetiredGySgt]

guaranteed he was on neuroleptic and psychotropic drugs...the one thing all these shooters have in common...without exception

takes one to know one....

its just the facts check out all the shooter from combine on.. it is even on the prescription labeling now thanks to intelligence determined and conscientious individuals such as myself

.....caution can cause suicidal or violent thoughts...

but then reality and facts are not really your thing....




The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.



However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)



Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.


Side Effects of Antidepressants | Clinical-Depression.co.uk

Let us see, people prescribed anti depressants are universally DEPRESSED and most are suicidal. SO go figure people on anti depressants might commit suicide.

Next you will be telling us people taking drugs and treatments for cancer die of.... Cancer.


Most people that act out that are on anti depressants do so for one of 2 reasons. One they quit taking the medication or two the right drug and dose was not found before they acted out.

It is a fact that most people that take these medications do NOT like taking them, especially the really sick ones. And then there is the thought pattern that happens after the meds work well, you start thinking your better so you do not need the meds anymore, so you QUIT taking them.

Your personal attempts to deny sick people effective treatment is absolutely ignorant.

Ohh there is also another danger with anti depressants, when a person is very low they may not be able to act on their suicidal thoughts from lack of motivation and energy. As the meds work there is a window in there were they have gotten well enough to act on suicidal thoughts but not well enough to stop having those thoughts.

You see dumb ass, the meds do not work over night. They work over TIME. And they require a continues dose DAILY. They do not stay long in your system.

Generally it can take up to 6 weeks to get an effective result and since the doctor has to evaluate you he is constantly making adjustments to the medication level.

The real problem is Insurance does not like paying for mental disorders and so most people can not afford to see the doctor enough as time passes, especially those critical first weeks. And they sure as hell do not like to pay for hospital stays for Mental issues. Standard is 4 to 6 days and the insurance if it pays wants you released and won't continue paying. So even if you admit yourself insurance can and does force you out before you are ready in most cases.

Doctors would prefer in the real bad cases to hospitalize the patient for several weeks to get a handle on what is working and what changes medically need to happen.

 

[eots]

takes one to know one....

its just the facts check out all the shooter from combine on.. it is even on the prescription labeling now thanks to intelligence determined and conscientious individuals such as myself

.....caution can cause suicidal or violent thoughts...

but then reality and facts are not really your thing....




The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.



However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)



Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.


Side Effects of Antidepressants | Clinical-Depression.co.uk

Let us see, people prescribed anti depressants are universally DEPRESSED and most are suicidal. SO go figure people on anti depressants might commit suicide.

Next you will be telling us people taking drugs and treatments for cancer die of.... Cancer.

this is information right off the drug manufacturers web sites..the drugs can cause suicidal
and violent behaviour..THE DRUGS CAN CAUSE...got it...I'm not taking anyones right to take any drug they choose,,fill your boots...but they should know all the risk..like permanent movement disorders especially in woman..and these kind of violent acts are a danger of the DRUG..and you are correct that the attention given to monitoring the reaction to the drugs is a big problem..

 

[xsited1]

Five dead in apparent murder-suicide | TimesDaily.com | The Times Daily | Florence, AL

Ugh. The crazies have been out in full force as of late. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if more people had less restrictive gun laws and carried concealed guns, people like this would be too chicken shit for fear of getting their brains blown out.

It's time to ease gun laws so more people can protect themselves in an environment like this.

If you want to see shootings, come to Southwest Little Rock or Pine Bluff. And if you don't like Arkansas, try Memphis.

 

[garyd]

For once Eots has got it right. Both the Combine shooters were on Ritalin and a hell of a lot of people are misdiagnosed as depressive these days especially 12 to 18 year old boys. Not every one taking anti depressant is actually depressed and anti depressant are used for a hell of a lot of things other than Depression primarily sleep disorders.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

For once Eots has got it right. Both the Combine shooters were on Ritalin and a hell of a lot of people are misdiagnosed as depressive these days especially 12 to 18 year old boys. Not every one taking anti depressant is actually depressed and anti depressant are used for a hell of a lot of things other than Depression primarily sleep disorders.

Ritalin is not prescribed for depression. You may want to check your facts. But you are right about the over board child industry of claiming normal teenagers are depressed when it is nothing more then how CHILDREN act as they grow up.

But perhaps you could point out how many of the shootings in the last month were carried out by 18 and under offenders?

 

[eots]

For once Eots has got it right. Both the Combine shooters were on Ritalin and a hell of a lot of people are misdiagnosed as depressive these days especially 12 to 18 year old boys. Not every one taking anti depressant is actually depressed and anti depressant are used for a hell of a lot of things other than Depression primarily sleep disorders.

Ritalin is not prescribed for depression. You may want to check your facts. But you are right about the over board child industry of claiming normal teenagers are depressed when it is nothing more then how CHILDREN act as they grow up.

But perhaps you could point out how many of the shootings in the last month were carried out by 18 and under offenders?

antidepressants are commonly given along with Ritalin..and all of the school shooters ...mall shooters..combine where all on SSRIs..you have to separate your personal experience a little to see the whole picture...but I See you are doing that..
they are powerful drugs not to be taken lightly..I think we would both agree on...

 

[Chris]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

The NRA has killed more Americans than AQ.

Over 1,000,000 since 1960.

 

[eots]

Sorry David, this isn't an increase in shootings, it's an increase in coverage only. Media hype and nothing more.

True.

Americans shooting their neighbors and family and committing suicide by police is as American as apple pie and motherhood.

Nothing to see here folks, just another senseless shooting spree.

Just go on about your business and remember to all you have to really worry about is Arab terrorists.

The NRA has killed more Americans than AQ.

Over 1,000,000 since 1960.

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