Hamas from a different angle

Hamas should he hit from as many angles as possible, until they no longer exist.

I'd be fine with that.

Trouble is that the Three Hs have toyed with the ineffective IDF .
They always say that Jewish men hate hard physical work and that's what we have seen since October 7 th after the Nazisraelis launched their infamous False Flag .


No wonder Deep State ensured that Jewish Herr Trumpf won the election and has since picked an essentially Jewish cabinet .

It's almost their last hope , otherwise Israel could be shunted back to where it started in more recent times -- what was Ukraine when they were then more popularly known as the Khazarian Mafia.

Just time for a quick Allahu Akbar before I watch Russia kick the shit out of the terrorists , Israeli plus US forces in Syria .

Well , well . The very place I told you the US would become embroiled in as a result of their misjudged response to the October 7 False Flag.

A Xmas Ho Ho Ho to everybody . All the embittered old fogies.
 
Trouble is that the Three Hs have toyed with the ineffective IDF .
They always say that Jewish men hate hard physical work and that's what we have seen since October 7 th after the Nazisraelis launched their infamous False Flag .


No wonder Deep State ensured that Jewish Herr Trumpf won the election and has since picked an essentially Jewish cabinet .

It's almost their last hope , otherwise Israel could be shunted back to where it started in more recent times -- what was Ukraine when they were then more popularly known as the Khazarian Mafia.

Just time for a quick Allahu Akbar before I watch Russia kick the shit out of the terrorists , Israeli plus US forces in Syria .

Well , well . The very place I told you the US would become embroiled in as a result of their misjudged response to the October 7 False Flag.

A Xmas Ho Ho Ho to everybody . All the embittered old fogies.

Poor goat humper.
 
Trouble is that the Three Hs have toyed with the ineffective IDF .
They always say that Jewish men hate hard physical work and that's what we have seen since October 7 th after the Nazisraelis launched their infamous False Flag .


No wonder Deep State ensured that Jewish Herr Trumpf won the election and has since picked an essentially Jewish cabinet .

It's almost their last hope , otherwise Israel could be shunted back to where it started in more recent times -- what was Ukraine when they were then more popularly known as the Khazarian Mafia.

Just time for a quick Allahu Akbar before I watch Russia kick the shit out of the terrorists , Israeli plus US forces in Syria .

Well , well . The very place I told you the US would become embroiled in as a result of their misjudged response to the October 7 False Flag.

A Xmas Ho Ho Ho to everybody . All the embittered old fogies.

Ok Ho.

Ho to you too, Ho.
 
There were no Jews in Gaza. They were forcibly removed by the Israeli government, with much pain and financial loss.

When they left, the commercial and industrial infrastructure that they had built there was quickly destroyed by Hamas.

NOTHING has prevented Hamas from taking the tens of billions of dollars in aid that it has received and using it to make Gaza a replica of, say, Singapore or Hong Kong. But they used that money to fund a war machine, to build weapons, and to build an underground infrastructure with no purpose other than to facilitate a campaign of destruction on its neighbor.

When the war started, Hamas could have sheltered virtually all of its civilian population in the fucking tunnels, but declined to do so. Indeed, it employed very severe measures to maximize civilian deaths and casualties, seeking to exploit the perverse fact that its enemies valued "Palestinian" lives much more than they did.

The facts on the ground are not complicated. Believing "Palestinian" propaganda, as the OP does, is simply pathetic.


DGS49: "There were no Jews in Gaza. They were forcibly removed by the Israeli government, with much pain and financial loss."

Although I haven't stated there were Jewish people in Gaza after 2005, yes, due only to international pressure, the entity ordered the removal of its "settlers"/squatters from Gaza in 2005.

DGS49: "When they left, the commercial and industrial infrastructure that they had built there was quickly destroyed by Hamas."

In reality, the entity's military dynamited residential neighborhoods and general infrastructure out of spite in September of 2005.
"In the weeks that followed [the removal of the squatters], Israeli forces demolished residential buildings..." Israel’s disengagement from Gaza (2005) | Withdrawal, Map, Settlements, & Hamas | Britannica (see the final sentence of the section titled "Implementation."

DGS49: "NOTHING has prevented Hamas from taking the tens of billions of dollars in aid that it has received and using it to make Gaza a replica of, say, Singapore or Hong Kong. But they used that money to fund a war machine, to build weapons, and to build an underground infrastructure with no purpose other than to facilitate a campaign of destruction on its neighbor."

Irrespective of how much money the Israeli-created Hamas has taken in
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces the entity prohibits building materials from entering the Gaza Strip. Israel Bans 5765 Types of Construction Materials from Getting into Gaza - Palestine Chronicle

So, it is challenging to imagine how Gazans could build much of anything, much less a new Singapore or Hong Kong, in light of their imposed inability to import such things as concrete and rebar. To be sure, with remote-controlled machine guns ringing the Gaza Strip, the entity intends for it to be an open-air concentration camp, not a new Singapore or Hong Kong. Zionists wish to keep Gazans and Palestinians, more broadly, impoverished, thereby making it easier to genocide them out of existence.
Of course, Gazans have been able to smuggle some building materials into Gaza. However, it would only be possible to smuggle in the enormous amount of materials requisite to build something approximating a city like Singapore or Hong Kong. In addition, if Gazans were able to initiate such a project, the entity would likely quickly bomb it out of existence. The entity's point is to genocide Gazans, not allow them to flourish.

DGS49: "When the war started, Hamas could have sheltered virtually all of its civilian population in the fucking tunnelsbut declined to do so. Indeed, it employed very severe measures to maximize civilian deaths and casualties, seeking to exploit the perverse fact that its enemies valued "Palestinian" lives much more than they did."

Although there are an estimated 300 miles of tunnels beneath Gaza, it would have been and remains infeasible to shelter more than one million impoverished people within that tunnel network. The technical issue of dealing with the daily production of vast amounts of dangerous urine and fecal matter alone renders such a notion folly. It is also the case that a million people residing in the said tunnels would, under the best of unattainable circumstances, severely hamper Hamas's ability to wage guerrilla warfare against a far better-equipped opposition.
Therefore, the assertion that Hamas somehow enjoyed or enjoys the option of sheltering Gazans writ large in tunnels is not only inaccurate; it is an instance of victim-blaming. Palestinians did not ask for or otherwise cause their being colonized any more than did Turtle Island's Indigenous peoples. It is the immutable inclination of colonized people to fight back.

Additionally, the responsive violence of the colonized, in this case, the non-Jewish people, in what is at least nominally understood to be Palestine, must be juxtaposed with the initiating violence of their Zionist colonizers. The violence carried out by Hamas is horrible and unfortunate, but the violence employed by the entity toward the maintenance of the status quo came first. And it is the day-to-day realities of the status quo, even during times of "peace," that are also designed to kill Palestinians.

DGS49: "The facts on the ground are not complicated. Believing 'Palestinian' propaganda, as the OP does, is simply pathetic."

Indeed, the facts on the ground are simple. The impasse is a classic case of fascistic settler-colonialism, just as it unfolded in the "U.S.," "Australia," "Canada," "French Algeria," "Rhodesia," and "Apartheid South Africa." The settler-colonial projects in "French Algeria," "Rhodesia," and "Apartheid South Africa" show that the social pathology known as "settler-colonialism" can be a relatively temporary situation. The dispute between the river and the sea is not a fundamentally religious impasse. And, although the situation has worsened of late, some signposts indicate the entity's demise.

As for DGS49's final comment, Marxists ally themselves with Palestinians because the same forces of reaction that are killing Palestinians are also subjugating workers in the West. It's all linked to imperialism, and imperialism is beginning to visit U.S. workers like a boomerang.
From Furegeon, Missouri, to Standing Rock to Flint, Michigan, to East Palestine, Ohio, from George Floyd to Eric Garner, from the loss of reproductive rights to the Supreme Court's possible overturning of same-sex marriage, disempowered people and workers generally are under assault by a dying and, therefore, vicious system. To push back on workers by enforcing that viciousness, Cop Cities are springing up across the U.S., sixty-nine thus far. Complete with Israeli-trained cops that were trained in the West Bank, the purpose of Cop Cities is to further the criminalization of persecuted people and expand the already-bloated carceral system. The capitalist system is imploding, and workers, including disenfranchised workers, are demanding change just like Palestinians are demanding the exact change.
Of course, DGS49 does not agree with any of that. Still, that sense of solidarity, rather than any "Palestinian propaganda," motivates the left concerning non-Jewish people in the occupied areas between the river and the sea.

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So, it is challenging to imagine how Gazans could build much of anything, much less a new Singapore or Hong Kong, in light of their imposed inability to import such things as concrete and rebar.

That's crazy!
Why would Israel try to stop such imports into Gaza?
 
People act like the current occupants (Muzzies) always owned/governed the land they say they're being displaced from.

Nothing could be further from the truth. For Centuries, the Persians held it. Around 300BC, Greece (Alexander) took it from them. They held it for a couple of Centuries until Rome took it from Greece. They held it for a half f a Millennium until Mohammed gathered enough goat-fuckers to take it from them. A couple hundred years later, Christians re-invaded and took a lot of it back (The Crusades). Then they looked around and said, "WTF are we fighting for?" and left. Then the Turks moved in. Then the Brits took it away from them. And created Israel. Because, it was the right thing to do.
Edgethop: "People act like the current occupants [Muslims] always owned/governed the land they say they're being displaced from. Nothing could be further from the truth. For Centuries, the Persians held it. Around 300 BC, Greece (Alexander) took it from them. They held it for a couple of Centuries until Rome took it from Greece. They held it for half of a Millennium until Mohammed gathered enough [support] to take it from them. A couple hundred years later, Christians re-invaded and took a lot of it back (The Crusades). Then they looked around and said, 'WTF are we fighting for?' and left. Then the [Ottoman] Turks moved in. Then the Brits took it away from them and created Israel because it was the right thing to do."

That is correct. However, whether we refer to the majority of non-Jewish people residing in the entity and its occupied territories as Palestinians, Arabs, or simply people, it is a fact that in 1948, 1.3 million of them were living there. That year, approximately 800,000 of them were violently driven from their homes and into refugee camps, where many remain. That, without question and to any decent human being, was and remains reprehensible. It is elementally no different than if the United Nations, at the behest of imperialist powers, gave 8,600 square miles of, say, Montana to a group of foreigners who were then empowered to violently force Montanans from their homes and out of those 8,600 square miles.

In such a scenario, there is no doubt that virtually all Montanans and many other U.S. citizens would rise in violent opposition to those invaders, and virtually the entire U.S. population would support that violent opposition. However, although that is the exact scenario that has been unfolding between the river and sea since 1948, the violent response by non-Jewish people between the river and the sea is not supported by most Americans. Obviously, pigmentation and religion are throughlines to this conflict that reveal a grotesque level of hypocrisy and, therefore, a fascist-like reaction among most Americans, be they conservatives or liberals.

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Edgethop: "People act like the current occupants [Muslims] always owned/governed the land they say they're being displaced from. Nothing could be further from the truth. For Centuries, the Persians held it. Around 300 BC, Greece (Alexander) took it from them. They held it for a couple of Centuries until Rome took it from Greece. They held it for half of a Millennium until Mohammed gathered enough [support] to take it from them. A couple hundred years later, Christians re-invaded and took a lot of it back (The Crusades). Then they looked around and said, 'WTF are we fighting for?' and left. Then the [Ottoman] Turks moved in. Then the Brits took it away from them and created Israel because it was the right thing to do."

That is correct. However, whether we refer to the majority of non-Jewish people residing in the entity and its occupied territories as Palestinians, Arabs, or simply people, it is a fact that in 1948, 1.3 million of them were living there. That year, approximately 800,000 of them were violently driven from their homes and into refugee camps, where many remain. That, without question and to any decent human being, was and remains reprehensible. It is elementally no different than if the United Nations, at the behest of imperialist powers, gave 8,600 square miles of, say, Montana to a group of foreigners who were then empowered to violently force Montanans from their homes and out of those 8,600 square miles.

In such a scenario, there is no doubt that virtually all Montanans and many other U.S. citizens would rise in violent opposition to those invaders, and virtually the entire U.S. population would support that violent opposition. However, although that is the exact scenario that has been unfolding between the river and sea since 1948, the violent response by non-Jewish people between the river and the sea is not supported by most Americans. Obviously, pigmentation and religion are throughlines to this conflict that reveal a grotesque level of hypocrisy and, therefore, a fascist-like reaction among most Americans, be they conservatives or liberals.

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After the 1948 War, virtually every Muslim Country in the region drove Jews out of their Country. Egypt, Iran, Iraq, etc, etc. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were suddenly homeless. With greedy officials taking expatriated Jews' property, land, possessions, etc.

Israel was swamped with hungry, homeless Jewish refugees and to make room for them, they removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility ('Israel'). Not Israel's finest moment. But a necessary one in their eyes. Personally, I don't know what else they could have done. It was a Lose-Lose situation

Difference was, the Arab/Muslim Countries that forcibly removed Jews wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from Israel. So, I don't blame the 'Palestinians' for being upset, it's just that they're upset with the wrong people. Egypt being one of the worst. Jordan is no Boy Scout, either. None of them

They talk shit about Muslim Land and Solidarity but when push comes to shove, they won't take care of their 'own people'.
 
Edgethop: "People act like the current occupants [Muslims] always owned/governed the land they say they're being displaced from. Nothing could be further from the truth. For Centuries, the Persians held it. Around 300 BC, Greece (Alexander) took it from them. They held it for a couple of Centuries until Rome took it from Greece. They held it for half of a Millennium until Mohammed gathered enough [support] to take it from them. A couple hundred years later, Christians re-invaded and took a lot of it back (The Crusades). Then they looked around and said, 'WTF are we fighting for?' and left. Then the [Ottoman] Turks moved in. Then the Brits took it away from them and created Israel because it was the right thing to do."

That is correct. However, whether we refer to the majority of non-Jewish people residing in the entity and its occupied territories as Palestinians, Arabs, or simply people, it is a fact that in 1948, 1.3 million of them were living there. That year, approximately 800,000 of them were violently driven from their homes and into refugee camps, where many remain. That, without question and to any decent human being, was and remains reprehensible. It is elementally no different than if the United Nations, at the behest of imperialist powers, gave 8,600 square miles of, say, Montana to a group of foreigners who were then empowered to violently force Montanans from their homes and out of those 8,600 square miles.

In such a scenario, there is no doubt that virtually all Montanans and many other U.S. citizens would rise in violent opposition to those invaders, and virtually the entire U.S. population would support that violent opposition. However, although that is the exact scenario that has been unfolding between the river and sea since 1948, the violent response by non-Jewish people between the river and the sea is not supported by most Americans. Obviously, pigmentation and religion are throughlines to this conflict that reveal a grotesque level of hypocrisy and, therefore, a fascist-like reaction among most Americans, be they conservatives or liberals.

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That year, approximately 800,000 of them were violently driven from their homes and into refugee camps, where many remain.

76 years later and they still live in refugee camps?
How many refugees from World War 2 still live in refugee camps?
 
After the 1948 War, virtually every Muslim Country in the region drove Jews out of their Country. Egypt, Iran, Iraq, etc, etc. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were suddenly homeless. With greedy officials taking expatriated Jews' property, land, possessions, etc.

Israel was swamped with hungry, homeless Jewish refugees and to make room for them, they removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility ('Israel'). Not Israel's finest moment. But a necessary one in their eyes. Personally, I don't know what else they could have done. It was a Lose-Lose situation

Difference was, the Arab/Muslim Countries that forcibly removed Jews wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from Israel. So, I don't blame the 'Palestinians' for being upset, it's just that they're upset with the wrong people. Egypt being one of the worst. Jordan is no Boy Scout, either. None of them

They talk shit about Muslim Land and Solidarity but when push comes to shove, they won't take care of their 'own people'.
Edgetho: "After the 1948 War, virtually every Muslim Country in the region drove Jews out of their Country. Egypt, Iran, Iraq etc., etc. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were suddenly homeless, with greedy officials taking expatriated Jews' property, land, possessions, etc."

Yes, following the 1948 Nakba, Muslim countries expelled Jews for a number of reasons, including rising anti-Jewry, political pressure to align with the Arab cause against the entity/"Israel," and the perception that Jews were no longer loyal citizens due to their identification with the newly formed entity leading to widespread discrimination and forced expulsions; those expulsions are often seen as a reaction to the Palestinian exodus during the Nakba. While noting the wickedness of those state-sponsored actions, I will remind readers that a majority of Americans, including a considerable percentage of this forum's participants, support the mass expulsions of undocumented immigrants.
It is also essential to state that the U.S.'s support for mass expulsions is not occurring amid an unjust creation of a hostile state in its vicinity, one that is murdering and expelling white Christians.

Edgetho: "Israel was swamped with hungry, homeless Jewish refugees, and to make room for them, they removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility ('Israel'). Not Israel's finest moment. But a necessary one in their eyes. I don't know what else they could have done. It was a Lose-Lose situation."

For clarification purposes, then soon-to-be "Israeli" officials began "removing" - forcefully expelling Arabs from the land between the river and sea at the beginning of the Nakba in November of 1947. Arab nations in close proximity to the entity didn't begin to expel their Jewish populations until June '48, a full seven months into the Nakba. So, respectfully, it isn't true that "they [Israeli officials] removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility" to make room for Jewish people who had been forcefully expelled from surrounding Arab nations.

Therefore, the answer to Edgetho's "I don't know what else could have been done" is Zionists could not have expelled Arab people from their homes beginning in 1947. That way, the dialectical response of Arab countries expelling their Jewish populations in (1948) would not have unfolded.

Edgetho: " The difference was, the Arab/Muslim Countries that forcibly removed Jews wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from Israel. So, I don't blame the 'Palestinians' for being upset; it's just that they're upset with the wrong people. Egypt being one of the worst. Jordan is no Boy Scout, either. None of them. They talk shit about Muslim Land and Solidarity, but when push comes to shove, they won't take care of their 'own people.'"

In reality, Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt accepted the refugees who were not driven into the Gaza Strip, and many remain in those three countries. So, it isn't true that predominantly Arab nations "wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from [what would become the entity]." Jordan, for example, currently hosts 2.3 million non-Jewish refugees who were forcefully driven from their homes between the river and the sea.

Edgetho "...they [predominantly Arab nations] won't take care of their 'own people.'" I'm guessing that the phrase "own people" was placed within quotation marks because Edgetho understands that the said refugees were not and are not Lebanese, Jordanian, or Egyptian citizens, which they are not. So, just as most Americans don't want to accept, say, Guatemalan, Honduran, or El Salvadoran refugees, why should Arab nations want to accept refugees from between the river and sea? Moreover, why would those nations want to aid and abet the entity's ethnic cleansing by accepting millions more refugees?

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Edgetho: "After the 1948 War, virtually every Muslim Country in the region drove Jews out of their Country. Egypt, Iran, Iraq etc., etc. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were suddenly homeless, with greedy officials taking expatriated Jews' property, land, possessions, etc."

Yes, following the 1948 Nakba, Muslim countries expelled Jews for a number of reasons, including rising anti-Jewry, political pressure to align with the Arab cause against the entity/"Israel," and the perception that Jews were no longer loyal citizens due to their identification with the newly formed entity leading to widespread discrimination and forced expulsions; those expulsions are often seen as a reaction to the Palestinian exodus during the Nakba. While noting the wickedness of those state-sponsored actions, I will remind readers that a majority of Americans, including a considerable percentage of this forum's participants, support the mass expulsions of undocumented immigrants.
It is also essential to state that the U.S.'s support for mass expulsions is not occurring amid an unjust creation of a hostile state in its vicinity, one that is murdering and expelling white Christians.

Edgetho: "Israel was swamped with hungry, homeless Jewish refugees, and to make room for them, they removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility ('Israel'). Not Israel's finest moment. But a necessary one in their eyes. I don't know what else they could have done. It was a Lose-Lose situation."

For clarification purposes, then soon-to-be "Israeli" officials began "removing" - forcefully expelling Arabs from the land between the river and sea at the beginning of the Nakba in November of 1947. Arab nations in close proximity to the entity didn't begin to expel their Jewish populations until June '48, a full seven months into the Nakba. So, respectfully, it isn't true that "they [Israeli officials] removed a lot of the Muslims present in their area of responsibility" to make room for Jewish people who had been forcefully expelled from surrounding Arab nations.

Therefore, the answer to Edgetho's "I don't know what else could have been done" is Zionists could not have expelled Arab people from their homes beginning in 1947. That way, the dialectical response of Arab countries expelling their Jewish populations in (1948) would not have unfolded.

Edgetho: " The difference was, the Arab/Muslim Countries that forcibly removed Jews wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from Israel. So, I don't blame the 'Palestinians' for being upset; it's just that they're upset with the wrong people. Egypt being one of the worst. Jordan is no Boy Scout, either. None of them. They talk shit about Muslim Land and Solidarity, but when push comes to shove, they won't take care of their 'own people.'"

In reality, Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt accepted the refugees who were not driven into the Gaza Strip, and many remain in those three countries. So, it isn't true that predominantly Arab nations "wouldn't take in the Muslim refugees from [what would become the entity]." Jordan, for example, currently hosts 2.3 million non-Jewish refugees who were forcefully driven from their homes between the river and the sea.

Edgetho "...they [predominantly Arab nations] won't take care of their 'own people.'" I'm guessing that the phrase "own people" was placed within quotation marks because Edgetho understands that the said refugees were not and are not Lebanese, Jordanian, or Egyptian citizens, which they are not. So, just as most Americans don't want to accept, say, Guatemalan, Honduran, or El Salvadoran refugees, why should Arab nations want to accept refugees from between the river and sea? Moreover, why would those nations want to aid and abet the entity's ethnic cleansing by accepting millions more refugees?

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Trouble is that the Three Hs have toyed with the ineffective IDF .
They always say that Jewish men hate hard physical work and that's what we have seen since October 7 th after the Nazisraelis launched their infamous False Flag .


No wonder Deep State ensured that Jewish Herr Trumpf won the election and has since picked an essentially Jewish cabinet .

It's almost their last hope , otherwise Israel could be shunted back to where it started in more recent times -- what was Ukraine when they were then more popularly known as the Khazarian Mafia.

Just time for a quick Allahu Akbar before I watch Russia kick the shit out of the terrorists , Israeli plus US forces in Syria .

Well , well . The very place I told you the US would become embroiled in as a result of their misjudged response to the October 7 False Flag.

A Xmas Ho Ho Ho to everybody . All the embittered old fogies.
Hello, luiza

By referring to the Al-Aqsa Flood as an Israeli false flag operation, do you mean that the entity's government knew about it in advance and allowed it to occur? Or do you mean the said government planned the attack?

Thank you, luiza
 
No one cares for palis. The only reason people are screaming "genocide" is because its jews.
Just like how for years they were screaming about gaza being an israeli open air prison, but they ignored egypt didnt let them through their border either. Why? Because egyptians arent jewish.
NO ONE likes the palis. NO ONE wants them in their country. Why do you think Jordan cut them off?
Hell, look at their own government. Even they dont like the palis. LOL
This boils down to antisemitism. Not anti zionism. Obviously.
 
There were no Jews in Gaza. They were forcibly removed by the Israeli government, with much pain and financial loss.

When they left, the commercial and industrial infrastructure that they had built there was quickly destroyed by Hamas.

NOTHING has prevented Hamas from taking the tens of billions of dollars in aid that it has received and using it to make Gaza a replica of, say, Singapore or Hong Kong. But they used that money to fund a war machine, to build weapons, and to build an underground infrastructure with no purpose other than to facilitate a campaign of destruction on its neighbor.

When the war started, Hamas could have sheltered virtually all of its civilian population in the fucking tunnels, but declined to do so. Indeed, it employed very severe measures to maximize civilian deaths and casualties, seeking to exploit the perverse fact that its enemies valued "Palestinian" lives much more than they did.

The facts on the ground are not complicated. Believing "Palestinian" propaganda, as the OP does, is simply pathetic.

Amnesty International says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Israel rejects the allegations


CAIRO (AP) — Amnesty International accused Israel of committing genocide in the Gaza Strip during its war with Hamas, saying it has sought to deliberately destroy Palestinians by mounting deadly attacks, demolishing vital infrastructure, and preventing the delivery of food, medicine and other aid.

The human rights group released a report Thursday in the Middle East that said such actions could not be justified by Hamas’ October 2023 attack on Israel, which ignited the war, or the presence of militants in civilian areas. Amnesty said the United States and other allies of Israel could be complicit in genocide, and called on them to halt arms shipments.

“Our damning findings must serve as a wake-up call to the international community: this is genocide. It must stop now,” Agnès Callamard, secretary general of Amnesty International, said in the report.


Once the international conventions defining genocide are applied to what Israel has done in Gaza the calculus becomes more like simple addition. The facts are undeniable and they should transcend red/blue politics.
 
Trouble is that the Three Hs have toyed with the ineffective IDF .
They always say that Jewish men hate hard physical work and that's what we have seen since October 7 th after the Nazisraelis launched their infamous False Flag .


No wonder Deep State ensured that Jewish Herr Trumpf won the election and has since picked an essentially Jewish cabinet .

It's almost their last hope , otherwise Israel could be shunted back to where it started in more recent times -- what was Ukraine when they were then more popularly known as the Khazarian Mafia.

Just time for a quick Allahu Akbar before I watch Russia kick the shit out of the terrorists , Israeli plus US forces in Syria .

Well , well . The very place I told you the US would become embroiled in as a result of their misjudged response to the October 7 False Flag.

A Xmas Ho Ho Ho to everybody . All the embittered old fogies.

This is YOUR side, bitch.

Proud of them, aren't you?


The gunman wrote in a note that the shootings of children were “carried out countermeasure in necessitated response to America’s involvement with genocide and oppression of Palestinians along with attacks towards Yemen.”
 
Like all settler-colonial entities, the nominal state of "Israel" is intent on taking all of Palestine and genociding all Palestinians.
I got to right here when your manifesto collapsed...

Israel left Gaza in 2005.

They evacuated the settlements and destroyed them, they even dug up their dead and took them away.


They gave Gaza the opportunity to become a nation.

Be 2007, Hamas had taken control of Gaza and begun attacking Israel again...and this last right up until the October 7th massacre.

Colonizers don't generally pack up all their shit and leave.
 
I got to right here when your manifesto collapsed...

Israel left Gaza in 2005.

They evacuated the settlements and destroyed them, they even dug up their dead and took them away.


They gave Gaza the opportunity to become a nation.

Be 2007, Hamas had taken control of Gaza and begun attacking Israel again...and this last right up until the October 7th massacre.

Colonizers don't generally pack up all their shit and leave.
Not to mention that the Ragheads violated an existing ceasefire when they committed their atrocities on 10-07.

Muzzies just can't be trusted. Ever. Not ever. It's even part of their religion to lie when it suits them. They have no honor and you can't deal with a people that have no honor. All you can do with them is -- Eliminate them.
 
I got to right here when your manifesto collapsed...

Israel left Gaza in 2005.

They evacuated the settlements and destroyed them, they even dug up their dead and took them away.


They gave Gaza the opportunity to become a nation.

Be 2007, Hamas had taken control of Gaza and begun attacking Israel again...and this last right up until the October 7th massacre.

Colonizers don't generally pack up all their shit and leave.


Missourian: "Israel left Gaza in 2005. They evacuated the settlements and destroyed them; they even dug up their dead and took them away."

Yes, in 2005, the entity, while under international pressure to do so, ordered the removal of its squatters from Gaza. However, the removal of its squatters and the demolition of "their" homes does not mean that the entity no longer occupies Gaza. On the contrary, with inward-facing remote-controlled machine guns ringing the Gaza Strip, the entity by no means has to occupy Gaza to occupy and, therefore, control it. Additionally, the entity denies Gazans the freedom of movement. Indeed, each year, roughly one hundred Gazans die because they were denied entry into the entity for medical treatment. The entity controls Gaza's airspace fishing rights and, through its inhumane embargo, prevents the entry into Gaza of critically needed building materials. To be sure, the entity still occupies Gaza.

Missourian: "They gave Gaza the opportunity to become a nation."

That isn't true. After all, as readers have just seen, the entity isn't interested in allowing Gazans to build anything, let alone a sovereign state. Gaza is an open-air concentration camp and little more.

Missourian: "By 2007, Hamas had taken control of Gaza and begun attacking Israel again...and this lasted right up until the October 7th massacre."

Again, although Gazans occupy Gaza, they do not control it; the entity does. And yes, of course, Gazans attack the entity. Although Missourian obviously denies Gazans their humanity and, therefore, the human right of self-defense, common human decency, and international law allow them to resist their occupiers violently. (See UNGA Resolution A/RES/38/17).

Missourian: "Colonizers don't generally pack up all their shit and leave."

It's admirable to see that Missourian acknowledges the fact that Zionism is based on colonialism, specifically settler-colonialism. Nonetheless, settler-colonialists have indeed packed up all their belongings and left. Two examples are French settler-colonial Algeria and settler-colonial Rhodesia, where occupied people rose and violently drove out their violent settler-colonial occupiers. In time, I think that, through economic collapse and demographics, Zionist occupiers will leave the area between the river and the sea.

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No one cares for palis. The only reason people are screaming "genocide" is because its jews.
Just like how for years they were screaming about gaza being an israeli open air prison, but they ignored egypt didnt let them through their border either. Why? Because egyptians arent jewish.
NO ONE likes the palis. NO ONE wants them in their country. Why do you think Jordan cut them off?
Hell, look at their own government. Even they dont like the palis. LOL
This boils down to antisemitism. Not anti zionism. Obviously.
TNHarley: "No one cares for Palestinians."

As last spring's college and university demonstrations, the BDS movement, and posts such as this one attest, that isn't true.

TNHarley: "The only reason people are screaming 'genocide' is because it's Jews."

Given Jewish-founded and led organizations such as Jewish Voices for Peace and IfNotNow, that isn't true either.

TNHarley: "Just like how for years they were screaming about Gaza being an Israeli open-air prison, but they ignored the fact that Egypt didn't let them through their border either. Why? Because Egyptians aren't Jewish."

Not only do people like myself continue to draw attention to the Gaza Strip being an open-air concentration camp, but thanks to social media, our numbers are rapidly multiplying. Although somewhat more than half of all U.S. adults support Israelis over Palestinians, a majority of adults under 30 view Palestinians more favorably than Israelis. That has a lot to do with an increasing number of young people coming to the understanding that the same forces of reaction that are negatively affecting their lives in the U.S. are killing and otherwise subjugating Palestinians. From Furegeon, Missouri, to Standing Rock to Flint, Michigan, to East Palestine, Ohio, from George Floyd to Eric Garner, from the loss of reproductive rights to the Supreme Court's possible overturning of same-sex marriage, disempowered people and workers more broadly are under assault by a dying and, therefore, vicious capitalist system. To push back on workers by enforcing that viciousness, Cop Cities are springing up across the U.S., sixty-nine thus far. Complete with Israeli training cops that were trained in Gaza's occupied West Bank, the purpose of Cop Cities is to further the criminalization of persecuted people and expand the already-bloated carceral system. The capitalist system is imploding, and workers, including disenfranchised workers, are demanding change just like Palestinians are demanding change.

TNHarley: "NO ONE likes the Palestinians. NO ONE wants them in their country. Why do you think Jordan cut them off?"

There are Palestinian refugees in Jordan. Indeed, half the population of Jordan is, in fact, Palestinian. Jordan is a poor desert country that can barely support its native population. Yet it has also absorbed a million Syrian refugees. They try their best to care for these people. However, their resources are minimal. So, of course, the Jordanians were eventually compelled to halt the influx of Palestinian and Syrian refugees.

In my response to Edgetho, I asked, "...just as most Americans don't want to accept, say, Guatemalan, Honduran, or El Salvadoran refugees, why should Arab nations want to accept refugees from between the river and sea [read: Palestinian refugees]? Moreover, why would those nations want to aid and abet the entity's ethnic cleansing by accepting millions more refugees?"Edgetho understandably avoided answering my questions. Nonetheless, it is inescapable that people like Edgetho and TNHarley staunchly oppose the migration of economic refugees into the U.S./the world's wealthiest country, while expecting impoverished Jordan to accept an additional 1.2 million Palestinians. It is, at best, inconsistent and, at worst, hypocritical.

TNHarley: "Hell, look at their government. Even they don't like the Palestinians. It boils down to antisemitism, not anti-Zionism."

I don't know which government TNHarley alluded to, so I am unable to comment. However, although there is an element of anti-Jewry within nearly all things concerning the entity, the Palestinian solidarity movement is all but completely divorced from anti-Jewry. That nearly utterly false accusation leveled by Zionists and their supporters is merely a convenient and desperate cudgel wielded by people towing an inhumane and indefensible position. They are, in fact, so desperate that they've seen to the creation of anti-BDS laws and other measures intended to crush First Amendment-protected activities surrounding the Palestinian solidarity movement. They are devoid of anything other than might-makes-right, ethno-racist, and Islamaphobic "arguments," so they rely on the quelling of free expression while engaging in intimidation, including the sabotaging of pro-Palestinian activists' educations and careers. It suggests a desperation that says they know the entity and Zionism are collapsing.


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As last spring's college and university demonstrations, the BDS movement, and posts such as this one attest, that isn't true.
No it doesnt.
Given Jewish-founded and led organizations such as Jewish Voices for Peace and IfNotNow, that isn't true either.
No it doesnt.
Not only do people like myself continue to draw attention to the Gaza Strip being an open-air concentration camp, but thanks to social media, our numbers are rapidly multiplying. Although somewhat more than half of all U.S. adults support Israelis over Palestinians, a majority of adults under 30 view Palestinians more favorably than Israelis. That has a lot to do with an increasing number of young people coming to the understanding that the same forces of reaction that are negatively affecting their lives in the U.S. are killing and otherwise subjugating Palestinians. From Furegeon, Missouri, to Standing Rock to Flint, Michigan, to East Palestine, Ohio, from George Floyd to Eric Garner, from the loss of reproductive rights to the Supreme Court's possible overturning of same-sex marriage, disempowered people and workers more broadly are under assault by a dying and, therefore, vicious capitalist system. To push back on workers by enforcing that viciousness, Cop Cities are springing up across the U.S., sixty-nine thus far. Complete with Israeli training cops that were trained in Gaza's occupied West Bank, the purpose of Cop Cities is to further the criminalization of persecuted people and expand the already-bloated carceral system. The capitalist system is imploding, and workers, including disenfranchised workers, are demanding change just like Palestinians are demanding change.
blah blah blah typical partisan rhetoric. The rest is just moonbattery.
There are Palestinian refugees in Jordan. Indeed, half the population of Jordan is, in fact, Palestinian. Jordan is a poor desert country that can barely support its native population.
Thats because Jordan annexed the west bank decades ago and gave them citizenship. Then the savages tried to throw a coupe on the one fucking government that was willing to help them.
Nonetheless, it is inescapable that people like Edgetho and TNHarley staunchly oppose the migration of economic refugees into the U.S./the world's wealthiest country, while expecting impoverished Jordan to accept an additional 1.2 million Palestinians. It is, at best, inconsistent and, at worst, hypocritical.
A bunch of jibberish to avoid my point.
I don't know which government TNHarley alluded to, so I am unable to comment.
Ummm their government. HAMAS. If you dont know what their govt is, why are you wasting my time?

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