Yes...the Central Park 5 were guilty....but they are now left wing saints...

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.


It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
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Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
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As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”
If the title of this thread is true, your entire thread would be loaded with lefty replies that defend the cp5 thugs.


And it is. Have you read it?
 
The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.


It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
---

Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
------

As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”
If the title of this thread is true, your entire thread would be loaded with lefty replies that defend the cp5 thugs.


And it is. Have you read it?
Lol, I am caught up now. Lefties can't help illustrating how true the title is.
 
!ww
The responses to you in this thread reveal YOU to be the real asshole here.

You are not a "good person" by any definition. No need to have an "excuse" to point out the truth.

Fuck You.



The responses in this thread show that liberals get off on calling people "racist".


And nothing more.


My desire to see rapists punished and not given tax payer money for bullshit reasons, make me the good person here.

Your obvious agenda makes you a far cry from being a good person.

The very fact that YOU have to "trumpet"
(no pun intended)to everyone here that you're a "good person" over a case that was settled years ago shows that even you are not really sure if you are.




The miscarriage of justice in this case, as I have repeatedly explained, and the fact that the people that did the miscarriage, ie you lefties, are still out there, doing the same shit,


makes this a valid issue.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you lying, to justify what an asshole you are being.

Again, the responses to your absurdity in this thread prove YOU to be the asshole here.

And as usual, as with every inane argument that engage in, you are attempting to turn this into a political issue.


It is not. There are other, far more intelligent conservatives than you here in this thread who disagree with your warped reasoning. Or are you too thick headed to notice?


The suspects who were initially charged, paid an undeserved debt to society, and the guilty party was punished.

You need to find another subject to be a whiny little bitch about.

This case is closed......and that, is NOT a lie.

Deal with it.




Citing responses from other people is not a supporting argument.


Citing the fact that the case is closed, is not a supporting argument.


You DON'T have a supporting argument, just various logical fallacies and personal attacks.


You are just an asshole that likes the idea of using this case to smear people you don't like, as "Racist".

ROFLMAO! No one is "smearing" you, little man.
There is is no need for a "supporting argument" or "logical fallacies" over a dead horse issue that you are beating until its skelatized.

As far as "not liking people".....are you fucking kidding? This is an anonymous, public forum, and recognizing ignorance is not dislike,
Learn the difference.

As far as "citing others", I only mentioned others because you defaulted to your typical "lefties are calling me racist" nonsense.

So I pointed out that there are some conservatives here as well who disagree with what you are babbling about... and also speculated about the possible presence of your own racism. And you were too busy whining to notice.

As for thinking that I would waste a second disliking you, that is you overrating yourself.
 
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Reyes' DNA was found to match the semen samples taken from the victim. No other DNA was found. He even provided other evidence. Whatever gang was marauding that night in the park, they also attacked black and latino victims.

Central Park jogger case - Wikipedia

Trying to connect anyone to a crime when there is no connecting evidence is idiocy.



REal life is not CIS.

I don't watch CIS. The only crime shows I watch are true-crime shows like Forensic Files and the occasional rerun of Criminal Minds because of an interest in psychological profiling that began with reading books by John Douglas, who was one of the people involved in founding the FBI unit at Quantico, and forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz.

Incidentally, blood is not easy to wipe away. Even if such an attempt is made, the blood still shows up with Luminol.

Why are you so interested in maintaining that these guys were guilty regardless of what was found and what wasn't?



Was luminol used on each criminals hands? How long does blood show up for? Not easy? So it can be done? What does it take? Would pouring half a can of malt liquor over the hands and wiping them on a paper towel do the trick?

It shows up blood on clothing and shoes. Why are you trying so hard? Do you have an agenda of some sort?

Real perp finally caught and off the streets. Wrongly convicted folks publicly exonerated and compensated for their ordeal. Justice finally served. Win-win.


More truth....

The Central Park Five’s attorneys — as well as Ava DuVernay’s new Netflix series — have tried to portray the five teens as frightened little lambs who were intimidated and coerced by law-enforcement authorities into making false confessions. But in the precinct house after their apprehension, the suspects were loudly singing the rap song “Wild Thing” for an extended period of time while they laughed uproariously about what they had just done to Trisha Meili. When a police officer suggested to Raymond Santana that he should have been out with a girlfriend rather than attacking strangers in Central Park, the boy laughed and replied, “I already got mines.” These are not the words and actions of people trembling in fear.

The coercion theory is further discredited by the fact that the interrogations of McCray, Richardson, and Santana were videotaped and, in compliance with legal requirements for cases involving minors, were conducted in the presence of a parent or guardian. Wise, meanwhile, was already 16 at the time, thus he was unaccompanied by an adult during his videotaped interrogation. Salaam was 15 but had a fake ID listing his age as 16, so his questioning began without a parent or guardian present. But before long, his mother arrived at the precinct and requested that her son be provided with a lawyer; Salaam's confession was not videotaped.

The video footage of McCray, Richardson, Santana, and Wise was damning indeed. Some excerpts:

Antron McCray: “We charged her. We got her on the ground. Everybody started hitting her and stuff. She was on the ground. Everybody stomping and everything. Then we got, each — I grabbed one arm, some other kid grabbed one arm, and we grabbed her legs and stuff. Then we all took turns getting on her, getting on top of her.”

Kevin Richardson: “Raymond [Santana] had her arms, and Steve [Lopez, who accepted a plea bargain rather than face trial] had her legs. He spread it out. And Antron [McCray] got on top, took her panties off.”

Raymond Santana: “He was smacking her. He was saying, ‘Shut up, bitch!’ Just smacking her…. I was grabbing the lady’s tits.”

Kharey Wise: “This was my first rape.”

When investigators at one point asked the fifth suspect, Yusef Salaam, why he had tried to smash the victim's skull, he replied, “It was fun.”

Some additional pieces of evidence also demonstrate that the Central Park Five were very much involved in the attack against Miss Meili:

  • While being driven to the police precinct shortly after his apprehension, Raymond Santana blurted out: “I had nothing to do with the rape. All I did was feel the woman's tits.”
  • Yusef Salaam told a detective who interviewed him: “I was there, but I didn't rape her.”
  • Kevin Richardson — whose underwear was stained with semen, grass, and dirt – told an acquaintance shortly after the attack: “We just raped somebody.”
  • On April 20th, both Kevin Richardson and Raymond Santana independently brought investigators to the precise location where the previous night's attack had occurred. Richardson, for his part, told the detective: “This is where we got her ... where the raping occurred.”
  • In the company of his father, Richardson told investigators that the source of several scratches on his neck had been the fingernails of a desperate Trisha Meili.
  • When Kharey Wise on April 20th went with a detective and an Assistant District Attorney to the scene of the previous night's attack, he said: “Damn, damn that’s a lot of blood. Damn, this is really bad, that’s a lot of blood.... I knew she was bleeding, but I didn’t know how bad she was. It was really dark. I couldn’t see how much blood there was at night.”
  • Wise also told a detective that someone named “Rudy” had fondled the jogger’s breasts and stolen her Walkman. His knowledge about the existence of the Walkman was highly significant, for at that time, not even the police were yet aware that the jogger had been carrying such a device.
  • Two of Wise's friends testified that the day after the attack on Miss Meili, Wise had told them: “You heard about that woman that was beat up and raped in the park last night? That was us!”
  • One of the numerous young people who were arrested for their participation in the various Central Park attacks of April 19th stated, on videotape, that he had heard Raymond Santana and another boy laughing about “how they 'made a woman bleed.'”
In short, there wasn't merely a mountain of evidence indicating that the Central Park Five had participated in the brutalization of Miss Meili. There was an Everest of evidence.
And no blood was found on any of the youths who were caught that night.
 
Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.
The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.


It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
---

Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
------

As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.
 
It is obvious "why".


Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.


And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.



YOu are a fucking asshole.

Isn't it just as "racist" to insist that those 5 are still guilty despite being cleared? ....


Explain why the one rapist being there, means that his word that he acted alone should be trusted,


or admit that you are the racist here, not me.

What physical evidence is there that shows the others were involved?
 
Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.


And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.



YOu are a fucking asshole.

Isn't it just as "racist" to insist that those 5 are still guilty despite being cleared? ....


Explain why the one rapist being there, means that his word that he acted alone should be trusted,


or admit that you are the racist here, not me.

What physical evidence is there that shows the others were involved?
Nothing at all.
 
Chose to believe him? His fucking DNA proved he was guilty. Do you not trust DNA?

How come you didn't answer my question to you?




And that in no way, supports the claim that he acted alone.


YOu just chose to believe him, because it gives you an excuse to race bait.


Wrong. If he had not acted alone, at least one of the others that supposedly beat her so bad she had no memory of the instance would have also left DNA behind.

Are you going to answer my question to you or not? Of course you won't because you know what I said is right.


The DNA he left behind was his semen. YOu claiming that the act of beating someone or holding their arm down, or fondling a breast would "also left DNA behind",


is absurd.


Answering a question from you, when you are being that delusional or dishonest, especially an hypothetical question, is not constructive.


You are being utterly absurd.

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.



Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.
 
The responses in this thread show that liberals get off on calling people "racist".


And nothing more.


My desire to see rapists punished and not given tax payer money for bullshit reasons, make me the good person here.

Your obvious agenda makes you a far cry from being a good person.

The very fact that YOU have to "trumpet"
(no pun intended)to everyone here that you're a "good person" over a case that was settled years ago shows that even you are not really sure if you are.




The miscarriage of justice in this case, as I have repeatedly explained, and the fact that the people that did the miscarriage, ie you lefties, are still out there, doing the same shit,


makes this a valid issue.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you lying, to justify what an asshole you are being.

Again, the responses to your absurdity in this thread prove YOU to be the asshole here.

And as usual, as with every inane argument that engage in, you are attempting to turn this into a political issue.


It is not. There are other, far more intelligent conservatives than you here in this thread who disagree with your warped reasoning. Or are you too thick headed to notice?


The suspects who were initially charged, paid an undeserved debt to society, and the guilty party was punished.

You need to find another subject to be a whiny little bitch about.

This case is closed......and that, is NOT a lie.

Deal with it.




Citing responses from other people is not a supporting argument.


Citing the fact that the case is closed, is not a supporting argument.


You DON'T have a supporting argument, just various logical fallacies and personal attacks.


You are just an asshole that likes the idea of using this case to smear people you don't like, as "Racist".

ROFLMAO! No one is "smearing" you, little man.
There is is no need for a "supporting argument" or "logical fallacies" over a dead horse issue that you are beating until its skelatized.

As far as "not liking people".....are you fucking kidding? This is an anonymous, public forum, and recognizing ignorance is not dislike,
Learn the difference.

As far as "citing others", I only mentioned others because you defaulted to your typical "lefties are calling me racist" nonsense.

So I pointed out that there are some conservatives here as well who disagree with what you are babbling about... and also speculated about the possible presence of your own racism. And you were too busy whining to notice.

As for thinking that I would waste a second disliking you, that is you overrating yourself.





That was a lot of nothing.


The Five were tried and convicted. Years later, based on the word of a murderer and rapist, those convictions were overturned.

Since then, people like you, have been complete assholes to anyone and everyone that will not play along with your coddling of rapists.
 
Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.


And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.



YOu are a fucking asshole.

Isn't it just as "racist" to insist that those 5 are still guilty despite being cleared? ....


Explain why the one rapist being there, means that his word that he acted alone should be trusted,


or admit that you are the racist here, not me.

What physical evidence is there that shows the others were involved?


I accept your admission that you are the racist here.


ANd that fits. You side with the black rapists against Justice for their white victim, based on race.
 
And that in no way, supports the claim that he acted alone.


YOu just chose to believe him, because it gives you an excuse to race bait.


Wrong. If he had not acted alone, at least one of the others that supposedly beat her so bad she had no memory of the instance would have also left DNA behind.

Are you going to answer my question to you or not? Of course you won't because you know what I said is right.


The DNA he left behind was his semen. YOu claiming that the act of beating someone or holding their arm down, or fondling a breast would "also left DNA behind",


is absurd.


Answering a question from you, when you are being that delusional or dishonest, especially an hypothetical question, is not constructive.


You are being utterly absurd.

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.



Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.




"Most likely", which means that in some cases, not. LIke if she has one rapist holding her legs, and another two holding her arms, while another brave soul, is raping her.


You know, like at least two of the Five heroes of yours, claim they were doing.


You libs are siding with criminals against their victims based on race and YOUR assumption that racism is present in all cases.


You are denying white victims Justice.
 
They were never arrested before or after the attack
They are not only saints, but with $45 million to split, very wealthy saints

They were arrested, tried and convicted by a jury of their peers.

That you libs shit canned that, on the word of a convicted rapist and murderer, shows that you are allied with the criminals and feral animals of the world, against innocent people.

And later found to be completely innocent. Not a “Not Guilty” decision but innocent.

Those boys were the most hated men in New York. Trump himself declared them to be animals deserving execution. Their time in prison, especially Korey Wise was a horror of constant beatings.

All for something they didn’t do.

Thankfully Donald J Trump is now the most hated man in New York City. :)
 
Reyes' DNA was found to match the semen samples taken from the victim. No other DNA was found. He even provided other evidence. Whatever gang was marauding that night in the park, they also attacked black and latino victims.

Central Park jogger case - Wikipedia

Trying to connect anyone to a crime when there is no connecting evidence is idiocy.



REal life is not CIS.

I don't watch CIS. The only crime shows I watch are true-crime shows like Forensic Files and the occasional rerun of Criminal Minds because of an interest in psychological profiling that began with reading books by John Douglas, who was one of the people involved in founding the FBI unit at Quantico, and forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz.

Incidentally, blood is not easy to wipe away. Even if such an attempt is made, the blood still shows up with Luminol.

Why are you so interested in maintaining that these guys were guilty regardless of what was found and what wasn't?



Was luminol used on each criminals hands? How long does blood show up for? Not easy? So it can be done? What does it take? Would pouring half a can of malt liquor over the hands and wiping them on a paper towel do the trick?

It shows up blood on clothing and shoes. Why are you trying so hard? Do you have an agenda of some sort?

Real perp finally caught and off the streets. Wrongly convicted folks publicly exonerated and compensated for their ordeal. Justice finally served. Win-win.


They were not wrongly convicted you doofus.....

As to that confession....

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs - Frontpagemag

In 2002, a convicted serial rapist named Matias Reyes — who was already serving a 33-years-to-life sentence for other felonies but had never been investigated as a suspect in the Central Park jogger case — suddenly confessed to having perpetrated Trisha Meili's April 19, 1989 rape. Authorities quickly confirmed his claim by matching his DNA with the DNA from the semen which had been collected during the original investigation thirteen years earlier. Reyes's confession had no bearing on the prison time that he was already serving, as the statute of limitations regarding the Trisha Meili case had expired.

Reyes was a violent psychopath with a long history of forcing his way into women's apartments and attacking them. In one of those cases, he had raped a then-pregnant woman named Lourdes Gonzalez before stabbing her nine times while her young children were in the next room, listening to their mother suffer and die. And yet now, not only was Reyes confessing to a crime for which he had never even been charged, but he was claiming (falsely) to have acted alone in attacking Trisha Meili in Central Park. Why?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed.

But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt. A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

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They were never arrested before or after the attack
They are not only saints, but with $45 million to split, very wealthy saints

They were arrested, tried and convicted by a jury of their peers.

That you libs shit canned that, on the word of a convicted rapist and murderer, shows that you are allied with the criminals and feral animals of the world, against innocent people.

And later found to be completely innocent. Not a “Not Guilty” decision but innocent.

Those boys were the most hated men in New York. Trump himself declared them to be animals deserving execution. Their time in prison, especially Korey Wise was a horror of constant beatings.

All for something they didn’t do.

Thankfully Donald J Trump is now the most hated man in New York City. :)


Why is whipping up division a good thing?
 
Dude. Stop watching CSI and thinking that normal police work is like that.


Real crimes don't always have clear cut physical evidence.

Real criminals do not handle a blood soaked woman without leaving or acquiring a speck of evidence or
participate in rape and “forget” the guy who actually did the raping.


Sure they do. And/or they wipe it off later.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you rationalizing your support of rapists and rape.
Wipe it off?
Blood?

You think you can just wipe off blood and all traces are gone? What about their clothes and shoes?

I condemn the man who actually attacked that poor woman. I also condemn those who would frame innocent boys for a crime they did not commit.




"All traces"? Did they do a full lab study of each kids hands? Is that what you claiming?


This is the truth too....

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence. But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all five provided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory. Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys' hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids' DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn't have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

mAnnie Coulter now? OMFG!! :D
 
I don't watch CIS. The only crime shows I watch are true-crime shows like Forensic Files and the occasional rerun of Criminal Minds because of an interest in psychological profiling that began with reading books by John Douglas, who was one of the people involved in founding the FBI unit at Quantico, and forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz.

Incidentally, blood is not easy to wipe away. Even if such an attempt is made, the blood still shows up with Luminol.

Why are you so interested in maintaining that these guys were guilty regardless of what was found and what wasn't?

It is obvious "why".

Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.
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It is obvious "why".

Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.

And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.

YOu are a fucking asshole.

The responses to you in this thread reveal YOU to be the real asshole here.

You are not a "good person" by any definition. No need to have an "excuse" to point out the truth.

Fuck You.

The responses in this thread show that liberals get off on calling people "racist".

And nothing more.

My desire to see rapists punished and not given tax payer money for bullshit reasons, make me the good person here.

Hopefully you will NEVER sit on a jury involving a black man.
 
Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.
The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.


It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
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Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
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As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.

If you need "information" - NEVER get it from 2aguy or Front Page Mag. Just sayin'
 
Real criminals do not handle a blood soaked woman without leaving or acquiring a speck of evidence or
participate in rape and “forget” the guy who actually did the raping.


Sure they do. And/or they wipe it off later.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you rationalizing your support of rapists and rape.
Wipe it off?
Blood?

You think you can just wipe off blood and all traces are gone? What about their clothes and shoes?

I condemn the man who actually attacked that poor woman. I also condemn those who would frame innocent boys for a crime they did not commit.




"All traces"? Did they do a full lab study of each kids hands? Is that what you claiming?


This is the truth too....

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence. But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all five provided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory. Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys' hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids' DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn't have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

mAnnie Coulter now? OMFG!! :D


Your utter inability to refute her words, are clear to all to see.


You lose, loser.


You know that they are guilty, yet you side with them anyway. YOu are a rape supporter.
 
It is obvious "why".

Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.
!ww
Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.

And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.

YOu are a fucking asshole.

The responses to you in this thread reveal YOU to be the real asshole here.

You are not a "good person" by any definition. No need to have an "excuse" to point out the truth.

Fuck You.

The responses in this thread show that liberals get off on calling people "racist".

And nothing more.

My desire to see rapists punished and not given tax payer money for bullshit reasons, make me the good person here.

Hopefully you will NEVER sit on a jury involving a black man.


Nothing I have ever said or done gives you any reason to suspect that I would be anything but fair and just.


You are the one being a racist asshole.
 

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