Yes...the Central Park 5 were guilty....but they are now left wing saints...

[2aguy]

Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
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Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
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As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.

If you need "information" - NEVER get it from 2aguy or Front Page Mag. Just sayin'

Yes...actual truth, with statistics and links cited.............that can't be exposed, cause it makes your argument hollow and dumb.....

 

[Correll]

Wipe it off?
Blood?

You think you can just wipe off blood and all traces are gone? What about their clothes and shoes?

I condemn the man who actually attacked that poor woman. I also condemn those who would frame innocent boys for a crime they did not commit.

"All traces"? Did they do a full lab study of each kids hands? Is that what you claiming?

This is the truth too....

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence. But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all five provided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory. Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys' hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids' DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn't have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

mAnnie Coulter now? OMFG!!

Your utter inability to refute her words, are clear to all to see.

You lose, loser.

You know that they are guilty, yet you side with them anyway. YOu are a rape supporter.

And you're a fucking racist idiot. So there is that.

I challenge you to back any of your accusations up.


That was a rhetorical challenge. I know that you are incapable of any such thing, and indeed, I doubt you have the intellect or maturity to even try.


You are the racist idiot here, and fuck you very much.

 

[JoeB131]

Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.

Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.

Except - No Blood on any of the Exonerated Five- even though she lost a lot of blood.

None of their tissue under her fingernails, which is what you'd expect if she fought back.

 

[DrLove]

"All traces"? Did they do a full lab study of each kids hands? Is that what you claiming?

This is the truth too....

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence. But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all five provided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory. Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys' hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids' DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn't have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

mAnnie Coulter now? OMFG!!

Your utter inability to refute her words, are clear to all to see.

You lose, loser.

You know that they are guilty, yet you side with them anyway. YOu are a rape supporter.

And you're a fucking racist idiot. So there is that.

I challenge you to back any of your accusations up.

That was a rhetorical challenge. I know that you are incapable of any such thing, and indeed, I doubt you have the intellect or maturity to even try.

You are the racist idiot here, and fuck you very much.

All i'd have to do to get you off of any jury in the land involving a black man would be to share a few of your posts.

You'd be 3 and OUT.

 

[DrLove]

Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
---

Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
------

As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.

If you need "information" - NEVER get it from 2aguy or Front Page Mag. Just sayin'

Yes...actual truth, with statistics and links cited.............that can't be exposed, cause it makes your argument hollow and dumb.....

Okay dude -- You hang with Horowitz. I'll pass

 

[2aguy]

Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
---

Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
------

As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.

If you need "information" - NEVER get it from 2aguy or Front Page Mag. Just sayin'

Yes...actual truth, with statistics and links cited.............that can't be exposed, cause it makes your argument hollow and dumb.....

Okay dude -- You hang with Horowitz. I'll pass

At what point in his quote did he say it was okay you moron? He is stating a fact that left wing asshats like you fail to acknowledge. The Transatlantic slave trade was only possible because Blacks were selling Blacks to Europeans....... and that here.....Blacks were freed by the efforts of White American Republicans while White democrats started a Civil War to keep Blacks in slavery.

 

[Correll]

This is the truth too....

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence. But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all five provided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory. Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys' hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids' DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn't have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

mAnnie Coulter now? OMFG!!

Your utter inability to refute her words, are clear to all to see.

You lose, loser.

You know that they are guilty, yet you side with them anyway. YOu are a rape supporter.

And you're a fucking racist idiot. So there is that.

I challenge you to back any of your accusations up.

That was a rhetorical challenge. I know that you are incapable of any such thing, and indeed, I doubt you have the intellect or maturity to even try.

You are the racist idiot here, and fuck you very much.

All i'd have to do to get you off of any jury in the land involving a black man would be to share a few of your posts.

You'd be 3 and OUT.

I challenged you to back up your claims. As I predicted, you were unable to even try.


You are an asshole who calls people vile names, not because they deserve it, but because they disagree with you.


Query: Are you even such a huge asshole to people in person?

 

[Faun]

Wrong. If he had not acted alone, at least one of the others that supposedly beat her so bad she had no memory of the instance would have also left DNA behind.

Are you going to answer my question to you or not? Of course you won't because you know what I said is right.

The DNA he left behind was his semen. YOu claiming that the act of beating someone or holding their arm down, or fondling a breast would "also left DNA behind",


is absurd.


Answering a question from you, when you are being that delusional or dishonest, especially an hypothetical question, is not constructive.


You are being utterly absurd.

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.

Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.

"Most likely", which means that in some cases, not. LIke if she has one rapist holding her legs, and another two holding her arms, while another brave soul, is raping her.


You know, like at least two of the Five heroes of yours, claim they were doing.


You libs are siding with criminals against their victims based on race and YOUR assumption that racism is present in all cases.


You are denying white victims Justice.

Those 5 couldn't even accurately describe what happened. They said they held her arms down; they didn't, her arms were tied. They said she wasn't gagged; she was. They said her legs were cut with a knife, they weren't. They said they masturbated on her; their DNA was not found. They said she was hit in the head with a bare hand, a rock, a brick or a lead pipe; they couldn't agree. They said her bra was ripped off; it wasn't. None of them said her face was cut with something sharp; it was. No two of them could agree which of them raped her or in what order. They couldn't all point to the location of the rape.

You're hard pressed to find any details they all agreed to and got right.

 

[Correll]

The DNA he left behind was his semen. YOu claiming that the act of beating someone or holding their arm down, or fondling a breast would "also left DNA behind",


is absurd.


Answering a question from you, when you are being that delusional or dishonest, especially an hypothetical question, is not constructive.


You are being utterly absurd.

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.

Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.

"Most likely", which means that in some cases, not. LIke if she has one rapist holding her legs, and another two holding her arms, while another brave soul, is raping her.


You know, like at least two of the Five heroes of yours, claim they were doing.


You libs are siding with criminals against their victims based on race and YOUR assumption that racism is present in all cases.


You are denying white victims Justice.

Those 5 couldn't even accurately describe what happened. They said they held her arms down; they didn't, her arms were tied. They said she wasn't gagged; she was. They said her legs were cut with a knife, they weren't. They said they masturbated on her; their DNA was not found. They said she was hit in the head with a bare hand, a rock, a brick or a lead pipe; they couldn't agree. They said her bra was ripped off; it wasn't. None of them said her face was cut with something sharp; it was. No two of them could agree which of them raped her or in what order. They couldn't all point to the location of the rape.

You're hard pressed to find any details they all agreed to and got right.

Inconsistencies are completely normal when different people describe the same events.


We have covered this point before.


This is you.

 

[DrLove]

Many thanks to the OP for this information.

I now have a better picture of what went down.

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
---

Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
------

As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

Many thanks for the information.

I had never really known any of the details of that case.

It is unbelievable that human beings could be so cruel and vicious.

If you need "information" - NEVER get it from 2aguy or Front Page Mag. Just sayin'

Yes...actual truth, with statistics and links cited.............that can't be exposed, cause it makes your argument hollow and dumb.....

Okay dude -- You hang with Horowitz. I'll pass

At what point in his quote did he say it was okay you moron? He is stating a fact that left wing asshats like you fail to acknowledge. The Transatlantic slave trade was only possible because Blacks were selling Blacks to Europeans....... and that here.....Blacks were freed by the efforts of White American Republicans while White democrats started a Civil War to keep Blacks in slavery.

Horowitz is a real charmer kinda like his racist heroes Miller, Gorka, Bannon and Milo.

David Horowitz on Twitter

 

[flacaltenn]

Just deleted 14 all personal posts from the last pages of this pages.. If you're not already thread banned, take those deletions alerts as a clue to "clean it up" and respect the topic and stop trolling each other...

 

[Lewdog]

Wrong. If he had not acted alone, at least one of the others that supposedly beat her so bad she had no memory of the instance would have also left DNA behind.

Are you going to answer my question to you or not? Of course you won't because you know what I said is right.

The DNA he left behind was his semen. YOu claiming that the act of beating someone or holding their arm down, or fondling a breast would "also left DNA behind",


is absurd.


Answering a question from you, when you are being that delusional or dishonest, especially an hypothetical question, is not constructive.


You are being utterly absurd.

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.

Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.

"Most likely", which means that in some cases, not. LIke if she has one rapist holding her legs, and another two holding her arms, while another brave soul, is raping her.


You know, like at least two of the Five heroes of yours, claim they were doing.


You libs are siding with criminals against their victims based on race and YOUR assumption that racism is present in all cases.


You are denying white victims Justice.

You don't realize at all just how many logical fallacies you are using while trying to tell others they are using them. Feel free to point to where I said any of these 5 guys are heroes. If you can't feel free to apologize for lying about it while comitting the fallacy of building a strawman argument and appeal to emotion.

Denying white victims justice? So the rapist that has admitted guilt that was proven true through DNA isn't justice?

Not to mention you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. I'm about to give you proven FACTS through the department of justice statistics. A Black Male who is accused of committing a crime against a white woman, especially a young one, is more likely to be found guilty and receive a harsher sentence than if a white male is accused of committing the exact same crime against a Black female. Also, in the very same instance a Black male who kills a young white woman is much much more likely to receive a death sentence versus a white male who kills a young Black woman.

That's not my opinion. Those are statistical FACTS through the U.S. Department of Justice. I'd spend the time posting all that to you, but you would blow the statistics off and say that the Black men are just more likely guilty and deserved to receive the harsher punishments... than the white men. Of curse what do I know? I mean I've spent 6 years of college courses going over statistics in criminal justice, including a Capital Punishment course.

 

[Coyote]

Your obvious agenda makes you a far cry from being a good person.

The very fact that YOU have to "trumpet"
(no pun intended)to everyone here that you're a "good person" over a case that was settled years ago shows that even you are not really sure if you are.

The miscarriage of justice in this case, as I have repeatedly explained, and the fact that the people that did the miscarriage, ie you lefties, are still out there, doing the same shit,


makes this a valid issue.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you lying, to justify what an asshole you are being.

Again, the responses to your absurdity in this thread prove YOU to be the asshole here.

And as usual, as with every inane argument that engage in, you are attempting to turn this into a political issue.


It is not. There are other, far more intelligent conservatives than you here in this thread who disagree with your warped reasoning. Or are you too thick headed to notice?


The suspects who were initially charged, paid an undeserved debt to society, and the guilty party was punished.

You need to find another subject to be a whiny little bitch about.

This case is closed......and that, is NOT a lie.

Deal with it.

Citing responses from other people is not a supporting argument.


Citing the fact that the case is closed, is not a supporting argument.


You DON'T have a supporting argument, just various logical fallacies and personal attacks.


You are just an asshole that likes the idea of using this case to smear people you don't like, as "Racist".

ROFLMAO! No one is "smearing" you, little man.
There is is no need for a "supporting argument" or "logical fallacies" over a dead horse issue that you are beating until its skelatized.

As far as "not liking people".....are you fucking kidding? This is an anonymous, public forum, and recognizing ignorance is not dislike,
Learn the difference.

As far as "citing others", I only mentioned others because you defaulted to your typical "lefties are calling me racist" nonsense.

So I pointed out that there are some conservatives here as well who disagree with what you are babbling about... and also speculated about the possible presence of your own racism. And you were too busy whining to notice.

As for thinking that I would waste a second disliking you, that is you overrating yourself.

That was a lot of nothing.


The Five were tried and convicted. Years later, based on the word of a murderer and rapist, those convictions were overturned.

Since then, people like you, have been complete assholes to anyone and everyone that will not play along with your coddling of rapists.

That is incorrect. There was also DNA evidence. Convictions get overturned...are you saying they are all guilty regardless?

Was there ever any physical evidence to convict those 5?

 

[Coyote]

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.

And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.



YOu are a fucking asshole.

Isn't it just as "racist" to insist that those 5 are still guilty despite being cleared? ....

Explain why the one rapist being there, means that his word that he acted alone should be trusted,


or admit that you are the racist here, not me.

What physical evidence is there that shows the others were involved?

I accept your admission that you are the racist here.


ANd that fits. You side with the black rapists against Justice for their white victim, based on race.

What? I asked a simple question.

What physical evidence is there that shows the others were involved?

Can you answer it? It kind of matters don't you think? Convictions are not overturned lightly.

 

[rightwinger]

The miscarriage of justice in this case, as I have repeatedly explained, and the fact that the people that did the miscarriage, ie you lefties, are still out there, doing the same shit,


makes this a valid issue.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you lying, to justify what an asshole you are being.

Again, the responses to your absurdity in this thread prove YOU to be the asshole here.

And as usual, as with every inane argument that engage in, you are attempting to turn this into a political issue.


It is not. There are other, far more intelligent conservatives than you here in this thread who disagree with your warped reasoning. Or are you too thick headed to notice?


The suspects who were initially charged, paid an undeserved debt to society, and the guilty party was punished.

You need to find another subject to be a whiny little bitch about.

This case is closed......and that, is NOT a lie.

Deal with it.

Citing responses from other people is not a supporting argument.


Citing the fact that the case is closed, is not a supporting argument.


You DON'T have a supporting argument, just various logical fallacies and personal attacks.


You are just an asshole that likes the idea of using this case to smear people you don't like, as "Racist".

ROFLMAO! No one is "smearing" you, little man.
There is is no need for a "supporting argument" or "logical fallacies" over a dead horse issue that you are beating until its skelatized.

As far as "not liking people".....are you fucking kidding? This is an anonymous, public forum, and recognizing ignorance is not dislike,
Learn the difference.

As far as "citing others", I only mentioned others because you defaulted to your typical "lefties are calling me racist" nonsense.

So I pointed out that there are some conservatives here as well who disagree with what you are babbling about... and also speculated about the possible presence of your own racism. And you were too busy whining to notice.

As for thinking that I would waste a second disliking you, that is you overrating yourself.

That was a lot of nothing.


The Five were tried and convicted. Years later, based on the word of a murderer and rapist, those convictions were overturned.

Since then, people like you, have been complete assholes to anyone and everyone that will not play along with your coddling of rapists.

That is incorrect. There was also DNA evidence. Convictions get overturned...are you saying they are all guilty regardless?

Was there ever any physical evidence to convict those 5?

No physical evidence and a sham of a confession

 

[Faun]

Man you really are pretty ignorant. Yes if they were beating her as hard as it would take to render her unconscious and unable to remember it, they would have very likely have had blood transfer or left hairs at the scene, and possibly even saliva. DNA is in a lot more things than just seaman. You really should learn more about a subject before posting. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Of course you won't answer my question because it proves just how fucking stupid your argument is.

Your argument is based on being vague and jumping all over the place.


Holding someone's legs down, would not likely leave behind DNA. Hitting someone with a brick, would not likely leave behind DNA.

YOU are the one conflating semen with, well, just about everything, not me.


This is you.

Wrong again. A woman fighting for her life would most likely scratch her attackers.

It's really sad to read your posts, knowing that a grown individual in the U.S. doesn't really know how tilted and biased our criminal justice system is, and any time it is brought up you take it as an attack on white people. This isn't a zero sum game where if the poor and minorities are treated more fairly means more white people get arrested or receive harsher punishments. It just means that the system treats EVERYONE equally regardless of race or social status.

Of course for that to happen, people like you need to be educated on just how badly the criminal justice system is now... and that can't happen when those people are as closed minded as you are.

"Most likely", which means that in some cases, not. LIke if she has one rapist holding her legs, and another two holding her arms, while another brave soul, is raping her.


You know, like at least two of the Five heroes of yours, claim they were doing.


You libs are siding with criminals against their victims based on race and YOUR assumption that racism is present in all cases.


You are denying white victims Justice.

Those 5 couldn't even accurately describe what happened. They said they held her arms down; they didn't, her arms were tied. They said she wasn't gagged; she was. They said her legs were cut with a knife, they weren't. They said they masturbated on her; their DNA was not found. They said she was hit in the head with a bare hand, a rock, a brick or a lead pipe; they couldn't agree. They said her bra was ripped off; it wasn't. None of them said her face was cut with something sharp; it was. No two of them could agree which of them raped her or in what order. They couldn't all point to the location of the rape.

You're hard pressed to find any details they all agreed to and got right.

Inconsistencies are completely normal when different people describe the same events.


We have covered this point before.


This is you.

We're not talking about some inconsistencies ... we're talking about different versions of events. There were no less than 6 suspects video recorded by police. Let's see how many events from that rape you point out where they all (or even most) said the same thing that was known to be true.....

 

[Lysistrata]

Agreed. My reflexive siding with victims and society against violent criminals, is very obvious.

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.

!ww

The victims circumstances were horrific. The guilty person confessed and was prosecuted

But your so called "reflexive siding is likely selective based on what the exonerated men look like. .

That is what is most obvious.

And that is what this is about to people like you. It gives you an excuse to smear good people as racist.

YOu are a fucking asshole.

The responses to you in this thread reveal YOU to be the real asshole here.

You are not a "good person" by any definition. No need to have an "excuse" to point out the truth.

Fuck You.

The responses in this thread show that liberals get off on calling people "racist".

And nothing more.

My desire to see rapists punished and not given tax payer money for bullshit reasons, make me the good person here.

Hopefully you will NEVER sit on a jury involving a black man.

Nothing I have ever said or done gives you any reason to suspect that I would be anything but fair and just.


You are the one being a racist asshole.

You have already repeatedly insisted that these boys, now men, were guilty of a crime for which they have been exonerated, based on convincing exculpatory evidence and lack of evidence of guilt, yet you never showed that you are in a position to have any inside knowledge of the crime. Although you have maintained that the word of the rapist, who was shown by DNA evidence to be the perp, that he was alone in committing the crime is not to be believed, you have shown nothing to contradict this. These actions show that you would not be "fair and just."

 

[katsteve2012]

Your obvious agenda makes you a far cry from being a good person.

The very fact that YOU have to "trumpet"
(no pun intended)to everyone here that you're a "good person" over a case that was settled years ago shows that even you are not really sure if you are.

The miscarriage of justice in this case, as I have repeatedly explained, and the fact that the people that did the miscarriage, ie you lefties, are still out there, doing the same shit,


makes this a valid issue.


Your pretense otherwise, is just you lying, to justify what an asshole you are being.

Again, the responses to your absurdity in this thread prove YOU to be the asshole here.

And as usual, as with every inane argument that engage in, you are attempting to turn this into a political issue.


It is not. There are other, far more intelligent conservatives than you here in this thread who disagree with your warped reasoning. Or are you too thick headed to notice?


The suspects who were initially charged, paid an undeserved debt to society, and the guilty party was punished.

You need to find another subject to be a whiny little bitch about.

This case is closed......and that, is NOT a lie.

Deal with it.

Citing responses from other people is not a supporting argument.


Citing the fact that the case is closed, is not a supporting argument.


You DON'T have a supporting argument, just various logical fallacies and personal attacks.


You are just an asshole that likes the idea of using this case to smear people you don't like, as "Racist".

ROFLMAO! No one is "smearing" you, little man.
There is is no need for a "supporting argument" or "logical fallacies" over a dead horse issue that you are beating until its skelatized.

As far as "not liking people".....are you fucking kidding? This is an anonymous, public forum, and recognizing ignorance is not dislike,
Learn the difference.

As far as "citing others", I only mentioned others because you defaulted to your typical "lefties are calling me racist" nonsense.

So I pointed out that there are some conservatives here as well who disagree with what you are babbling about... and also speculated about the possible presence of your own racism. And you were too busy whining to notice.

As for thinking that I would waste a second disliking you, that is you overrating yourself.

That was a lot of nothing.


The Five were tried and convicted. Years later, based on the word of a murderer and rapist, those convictions were overturned.

Since then, people like you, have been complete assholes to anyone and everyone that will not play along with your coddling of rapists.

I'm not "coddling rapists", you liar.

The guilty rapist confessed and was punished as he should have been.

Those five, served sentences ranging up to over 10 years each.

They served a debt to society that they did not owe.

Lack of proper evidence supported that fact. That has been pointed out to you by numerous posters here, over and over.

Yes. The five WERE "tried" and they were "convicted"

But in case you are still in a coma, they were then, "EXONERATED"

And the guilty party confessed.

Do you even know what the definition of "EXONERATED" is, and what it means?

If not, look it up.

People "like me," understand that definition, and it is not our personal responsibility to educate and administer remedial lessons on such basic judicial laws to people "like you",

Google is your friend. Try using it first, as opposed to continuing to make ignorant statements like you just did.....and have done throughout this thread.

 

[JoeB131]

At what point in his quote did he say it was okay you moron? He is stating a fact that left wing asshats like you fail to acknowledge. The Transatlantic slave trade was only possible because Blacks were selling Blacks to Europeans....... and that here.....Blacks were freed by the efforts of White American Republicans while White democrats started a Civil War to keep Blacks in slavery.

Yet, today the Republicans are the ones calling those Southern Racists "Very Fine People".

 

[Lysistrata]

At what point in his quote did he say it was okay you moron? He is stating a fact that left wing asshats like you fail to acknowledge. The Transatlantic slave trade was only possible because Blacks were selling Blacks to Europeans....... and that here.....Blacks were freed by the efforts of White American Republicans while White democrats started a Civil War to keep Blacks in slavery.

Yet, today the Republicans are the ones calling those Southern Racists "Very Fine People".

2aguy fails to acknowledge that, even if Africans sold other African prisoners, the Europeans bought them, shipped them off, owned them, and enslaved them. He also fails to acknowledge that the republicans and democrats have totally switched positions. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.