Yes or no? NATO PTOVOKED this war.

Which one was in order to terrorize the population into submission ...
The United Snakes.
We're watching a holocaust.​

This is exactly what the Ukrainian government with its Nazi minions has been doing with the minority population of the Ukraine.
"They're blowing up indiscriminately, they're just shooting massive missiles and rockets into these buildings and everybody is dying.​
Just as the United Snakes has been doing since the 1950s.
 
The United Snakes:
Let me ask my question again because I guess it’s not obvious that we are discussing PUTIN’s terrorist attack on innocent women and children that started on February 24, 2022.

You know GLASNOST - The war as described by DJT, — they're blowing up buildings with children, with women, with professionals, with people — think of just people," . . . "They're blowing up indiscriminately, they're just shooting massive missiles and rockets into these buildings and everybody is dying.”

So in Europe on February 24 2022, which superpower crossed an established border to destroy lives and property indiscriminately in order to terrorize a population into submission. It’s a very simple question with only one correct answer.....?
 
Let me ask my question again because I guess it’s not obvious that we are discussing PUTIN’s terrorist attack on innocent women and children that started on February 24, 2022.

You know GLASNOST - The war as described by DJT, — they're blowing up buildings with children, with women, with professionals, with people — think of just people," . . . "They're blowing up indiscriminately, they're just shooting massive missiles and rockets into these buildings and everybody is dying.”

So in Europe on February 24 2022, which superpower crossed an established border to destroy lives and property indiscriminately in order to terrorize a population into submission. It’s a very simple question with only one correct answer.....?
Putin has been very tolerant. Do I need to repeat all that has been said about the political coup orchestrated by the CIA in order to put their puppet in Kiyev, the 'holocaust' of ethnic Russians in Donbas (and others), the rampage of Ukrainian Nazi groups under the tutelage of the Ukraine government, and ... the heart of the matter ... the US goal of ripping off Russia's naval base in the Crimea? OK, so I don't need to remind you, yes? So, where were we? Ah yes, the straw that broke the camel's back - the one that made Putin's decision to do something about it.

But I understand that you want to ignore all of that and focus on the alleged inhumane suffering of the civilian population. If it's intentional that's one thing but if it is not inentional .... well ..... maybe the rich & powerful in Ukraine should sue for peace with Russia and stop kissing America's genitals?
 
Your butt is hurting because Vladimir Putin is kicking Yankee ass.

Putin has launched a Holocaust as DJT adjusts his messages as Putin’s genius peacekeeper mission inches toward Kiev

I see that dead women and children in a once peaceful Ukraine motivated some cork popping two days into Putin’s special military operation.

Russia, which has a military draft, has effectively been trounced by Ukrainian residents who are learning how to shoot guns from YouTube videos.​

"Ukraine has shot down military transport planes carrying Russian paratroopers, downed helicopters and blown holes in Russia’s convoys using American anti-tank missiles and armed drones supplied by Turkey," the report said, citing officials and U.S. intelligence assessments.​

Meanwhile, many Russian soldiers say that they were lied to about why they were going to the Ukraine border, to begin with. Last week, a Ukrainian official read a text message conversation between a Russian soldier and his mother when his phone was discovered. British Defense Minister Ben Wallace revealed that the Putin military rolled in crematoriums to rapidly incinerate bodies so there couldn't be an accurate count of fatalities on the Russian side. He said they completely "evaporate" the bodies.​


The Times reported that the MREs (meals ready to eat) sent with soldiers expired years prior. It's possible that if Putin can hold on and keep fighting for a year or more he could outnumber Ukraine but given the anger stirring among oligarchs losing luxury yachts, properties and other costs, it may not last as sanctions truly get started.​

 
Putin has been very tolerant.
Don’t care. Which PARTY (NATO alliance or Russia) to the current war on European soil that began on February 24, 2022 crossed a border and began indiscriminate killing and destruction of the civilian population on the other side? I just want to hear you say it.
 
I can see that.
that is good.,
No, it's the American puppet regime in Ukraine that has "launched a Holocaust."
Do I need to repeat all that has been said about the political coup orchestrated by the CIA in order to put their puppet in Kiyev, the 'holocaust' of ethnic Russians in Donbas (and others), the rampage of Ukrainian Nazi groups under the tutelage of the Ukraine government, and ... the heart of the matter ... the US goal of ripping off Russia's naval base in the Crimea?
No Vladimir. You lied. You said the massive Military buildup around Ukraine was a training exercise. You lied to the world and you lied to your soldiers and officers. Nothing you say can be accepted and now you are committing war crimes because your feelings have been hurt.
 
Right I don't know where we got on this:

Putin feared NATO, in Trump he had an ally who was weakening NATO from the inside... He speculated in leaving NATO and had a general distain for other members with regular name calling. Alliances rely on trust and no one trusted Trump... This weakened NATO and thus kept Putin happy...

Putin was hoping on Trump winning a second term and he would further weaken NATO and then possibly leave. Putin believed that would allow him to hoover up the Eastern European countries of the old soviet bloc.


Biden won.. Ukraine knowing they had a real ally in Biden moved to closer integration to EU and NATO... Putin got very fearful... NATO is bad but EU is way worse... EU is very accomplished at massively reducing corruption, expanding economies and make people richer... The also get substantially better quality of life and much more liberty... Things like ECJ (European Court of Justice) allows all EU citizens to effectively sue there own or other governments for not doing their job or harming them... This give EU Citizens huge power to conquer corruption...

Putin then got himself into a place that he felt he had to stop this by any means necessary, he had no Trump to try and stop this so he invaded... So Trump might be right there would have been no war if Trump was in power but that is because Trump would have done what Putin wanted anyway, why buy a cow when milk is for free... There would still be a fight in the future when Ukraine wants to join these organisations but they would be tougher and harder fights... I prefer when the US President doesn't work for the Russian President.
 
Putin feared NATO, in Trump he had an ally who was weakening NATO from the inside... He speculated in leaving NATO and had a general distain for other members with regular name calling. Alliances rely on trust and no one trusted Trump... This weakened NATO and thus kept Putin happy...
Since WWII we have stood the line in Europe..........NATO WAS CREATED FOR THE USSR.........Selective memory Europe ignores the fact the UNITED STATES has kept them out of the USSR for most of their lives...........

The UNGRATEFUL BASTARDS made PROMISES TO MANY POLITICIANS to spend more of their GDP on their OWN DEFENSE.......THEY LIED.........They were too used to USING US.

Trump called them out on it and hurt their dang feelings............OH WELL.........They need to HONOR THEIR WORD and now that the Bear is on the move they finally say they will spend more. LOL

Russia isn't scared of NATO.......not the Europeans.........but he sure as hell is of the U.S Those lines of armor he is using in Ukraine would be nothing but TARGET PRACTICE FOR US. And he KNOWS IT.
 
that is good.,


No Vladimir. You lied. You said the massive Military buildup around Ukraine was a training exercise. You lied to the world and you lied to your soldiers and officers. Nothing you say can be accepted and now you are committing war crimes because your feelings have been hurt.
Now I know what you meant when you said you, "don't care". You mean you don't care about truth .... you just make up BS as you go along. :cow:
 
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you just make up BS as you go along.
Putin assured the world he had no plans to invade. He is a liar. You are defending a liar. That makes you a liar. Lying for a terrorist and a war criminal doesn’t get you there, but you shouldn’t have any friends.
 
Since WWII? Ho-ho! Since WWII the US has created more wars and destroyed more democracies than any other nation.
Takes 2 to tango IVAN............Called the Cold War.........You have selective memory........Our weapons sent to those you attack and your weapons to those we attack.

We have been fighting each other in neutral counties forever..........Until you fell..........and as we are financially fall now.........

You see blood in the water.......or finances..........That is why you formed BRICS..........problem is we still have one bad ass military.......Even as idiots like Biden screw it up. You can't win against us in a conventional War IVAN.............

Why we haven't fought long ago........is NUKES.............I have no desire to fight anyone....The globalist love it..........but not the average Joe......Putin is pushing for FAME and a Legacy of retaking some of the glory of the old USSR.
 
Takes 2 to tango IVAN............Called the Cold War.........You have selective memory........Our weapons sent to those you attack and your weapons to those we attack.
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Let's see how your memory is, ADOLF ..... Name one that I've (we've) "attacked". Just one. How much time do you require? :icon_sjung:
 
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