View From Beijing: The US Tries Hard to Hijack World's View on Russia

[Alexandre Fedorovski]

While urging China to condemn Russia, the West, especially the US, is also pressuring India to take a clearer stance on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Since the tension between Moscow and Kiev escalated, Washington has been making all efforts to pull New Delhi into its anti-Russia united front. In a call with Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar on Friday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin stressed "the importance of a strong collective response to condemn Russia's invasion." However, India so far has not changed its neutrality on the issue.

India's junior minister for external affairs Rajkumar Ranjan Singh said on February 24 that India is "NEUTRAL" in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Washington, as THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE UKRAINIAN TENSION, is in no position to ask other countries to follow it closely to condemn or sanction Russia. It CAN NOT ask the whole world to pay FOR THE CHAOS IT HAS CREATED. NO OTHER PARTY OTHER THAN THE US and ITS CLOSE ALLIES IN NATO SHOULD BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY.

Washington's interests don't equal the interests of the whole world. The US has previously TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S OPINION in its favor under the guise of "maintaining the rules-based international order." Fortunately, THE US CAN NOT USE THE SAME OLF TRICK TO FOOL THE WORLD ANYMORE.. More and more countries have already realized Washington's shameless purpose of using them as CHESS PIECES TO ADVANCE ITS OWN INTERESTS.

Mexico and Turkey have claimed they won't impose any economic sanctions on Russia. In Latin America, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and Panama refused to explicitly condemn or sanction Russia.

These countries are showing such an attitude to the US by their actions: We are not following you because IT IS NEITHER IN OUR INTEREST NOR CONDUCIVE TO THE SOLUTION OF THE CRISIS.

In the end, no matter how hard they attempt to pressure other countries, the US and its NATO allies SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES STEWING IN THEIR OWN JUICE.

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The US tries hard to hijack world's view on Russia, but more countries not buying it - Global Times

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[pknopp]

We tossed our moral high ground by invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. China isn't going to take us seriously. Even Russia, they were the ones telling us that invading Syria was a mistake. Granted, Russia is hypocritical there also but what we have is a world full of hypocrites.

 

[surada]

We tossed our moral high ground by invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. China isn't going to take us seriously. Even Russia, they were the ones telling us that invading Syria was a mistake. Granted, Russia is hypocritical there also but what we have is a world full of hypocrites.

6 million Syrian refugees flooded into others Arab countries, Europe and the US. None went to China.

 

[pknopp]

6 million Syrian refugees flooded into others Arab countries, Europe and the US. None went to China.

We make them wait in Mexico?

 

[Decus]

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While urging China to condemn Russia, the West, especially the US, is also pressuring India to take a clearer stance on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Since the tension between Moscow and Kiev escalated, Washington has been making all efforts to pull New Delhi into its anti-Russia united front. In a call with Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar on Friday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin stressed "the importance of a strong collective response to condemn Russia's invasion." However, India so far has not changed its neutrality on the issue.

India's junior minister for external affairs Rajkumar Ranjan Singh said on February 24 that India is "NEUTRAL" in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Washington, as THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE UKRAINIAN TENSION, is in no position to ask other countries to follow it closely to condemn or sanction Russia. It CAN NOT ask the whole world to pay FOR THE CHAOS IT HAS CREATED. NO OTHER PARTY OTHER THAN THE US and ITS CLOSE ALLIES IN NATO SHOULD BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY.

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Washington's interests don't equal the interests of the whole world. The US has previously TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S OPINION in its favor under the guise of "maintaining the rules-based international order." Fortunately, THE US CAN NOT USE THE SAME OLF TRICK TO FOOL THE WORLD ANYMORE.. More and more countries have already realized Washington's shameless purpose of using them as CHESS PIECES TO ADVANCE ITS OWN INTERESTS.

Mexico and Turkey have claimed they won't impose any economic sanctions on Russia. In Latin America, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and Panama refused to explicitly condemn or sanction Russia.

These countries are showing such an attitude to the US by their actions: We are not following you because IT IS NEITHER IN OUR INTEREST NOR CONDUCIVE TO THE SOLUTION OF THE CRISIS.

In the end, no matter how hard they attempt to pressure other countries, the US and its NATO allies SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES STEWING IN THEIR OWN JUICE.

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The US tries hard to hijack world's view on Russia, but more countries not buying it - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Russia has a long history of invading countries and installing puppet governments - the USSR was nothing more than occupied countries under the dictatorial rule of Russia.

China is moving in a similar direction. Tibet, Hong Kong, the Spratly Islands, putting a million Chinese citizens who haven't committed a crime in prison, fighting for territory with India, threatening Taiwan and being aggressive towards its neighbors, ie: Vietnam, Philippines, Australia and more.

China wants to be just like Russia. Fck'em both.

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[Gabe Lackmann]

6 million Syrian refugees flooded into others Arab countries, Europe and the US. None went to China.

Because they are not idiots.

 

[Resnic]

America seems bound and determined to make Ukraine all about us.

Seems odd how America keeps trying to keep itself the focus when it comes to Ukraine and patting itself on the back waiting for applause.

 

[kyzr]

America seems bound and determined to make Ukraine all about us.
Seems odd how America keeps trying to keep itself the focus when it comes to Ukraine and patting itself on the back waiting for applause.

Link please, I think you're hallucinating. What shit-hole country are you from??
The US is all about the suffering going on in Ukraine and working hard to stop it.

 

[Lesh]

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While urging China to condemn Russia, the West, especially the US, is also pressuring India to take a clearer stance on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Since the tension between Moscow and Kiev escalated, Washington has been making all efforts to pull New Delhi into its anti-Russia united front. In a call with Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar on Friday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin stressed "the importance of a strong collective response to condemn Russia's invasion." However, India so far has not changed its neutrality on the issue.

India's junior minister for external affairs Rajkumar Ranjan Singh said on February 24 that India is "NEUTRAL" in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Washington, as THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE UKRAINIAN TENSION, is in no position to ask other countries to follow it closely to condemn or sanction Russia. It CAN NOT ask the whole world to pay FOR THE CHAOS IT HAS CREATED. NO OTHER PARTY OTHER THAN THE US and ITS CLOSE ALLIES IN NATO SHOULD BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY.

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Washington's interests don't equal the interests of the whole world. The US has previously TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S OPINION in its favor under the guise of "maintaining the rules-based international order." Fortunately, THE US CAN NOT USE THE SAME OLF TRICK TO FOOL THE WORLD ANYMORE.. More and more countries have already realized Washington's shameless purpose of using them as CHESS PIECES TO ADVANCE ITS OWN INTERESTS.

Mexico and Turkey have claimed they won't impose any economic sanctions on Russia. In Latin America, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and Panama refused to explicitly condemn or sanction Russia.

These countries are showing such an attitude to the US by their actions: We are not following you because IT IS NEITHER IN OUR INTEREST NOR CONDUCIVE TO THE SOLUTION OF THE CRISIS.

In the end, no matter how hard they attempt to pressure other countries, the US and its NATO allies SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES STEWING IN THEIR OWN JUICE.

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The US tries hard to hijack world's view on Russia, but more countries not buying it - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Source

Putin's propaganda machine

 

[Alexandre Fedorovski]

We tossed our moral high ground by invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. China isn't going to take us seriously. Even Russia, they were the ones telling us that invading Syria was a mistake. Granted, Russia is hypocritical there also but what we have is a world full of hypocrites.

In fact, ALL world powers seek to extend their influence to as many countries as possible. This is dictated by the economic interests of the ruling exploiting class which the politicians serve.

This is accomplished in various ways: one can get a vial of toothpowder, shaking it at the Security Council, fooling the American people and the world, and launch an intervention that resulted in the devastation of a flourishing country.

It is possible to support the government of the country with military aid on the basis of a treaty of friendship and mutual assistance - an international legitimate document and to send an expeditionary corps, as Russia did.

Or it is possible to land troops WITHOUT the permission of the government of the country, citing American "superiority" and permissiveness - a very dangerous thesis that has poisoned the minds of many, to pump oil in the occupied territory and sell it, i.e., in fact, to RIPPING the occupied country.

In contrast to America with its more than 800 military bases all over the world, neither Russia nor China seeks world domination. Their policy is one of creating a security belt and establishing REGIONAL, NOT PLANETARY leadership.

The Chinese, like the Russian government, are psychologically adequate, not obsessed with the idea of exceptionalism. Well, no one has canceled economic competition, although this is what the globalists want.

 

[bendog]

We tossed our moral high ground by invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. China isn't going to take us seriously. Even Russia, they were the ones telling us that invading Syria was a mistake. Granted, Russia is hypocritical there also but what we have is a world full of hypocrites.

I wasn't in favor of thse "peace keeping actions," but with the exception of Iraq, the countries you listed were already in civil war. International intervention by the west was to prevent anti-democratic terrorists from winning. We fucked up in instances. But there's no factual analogy even in Iraq to what Russia is doing in Crimea. Even in Iraq, even I was surprised when we didn't turn up a single credible pile of chemical weapons - even the military planners had our guys lugging chemical warfare gear into Iraq. And, while imo the claim of WOMD was really a fiction to allow nation building, the sanctions we put in place back with BushI were directly responsible for a generation of Iraqi kids growing up with food and medicine deficiencies

WE fucked up bigly in Gulf WarI, and Poppy never really considered sanctions, and then after "winning" the war, he got the UN to impose the very sanctions that isolated Saddam and Iran. THAT may be a lesson for Russia and Ukraine. And what would we do if Russia is successful in overrunning the entire country, and then uses chem weapons to subdue a Ukranian insurgency?

 

[pknopp]

I wasn't in favor of thse "peace keeping actions," but with the exception of Iraq, the countries you listed were already in civil war.

We weren't involved which is the point. We thought we would get involved and put a new leader in place. One that we could support and of course would do what we wanted.

International intervention by the west was to prevent anti-democratic terrorists from winning. We fucked up in instances. But there's no factual analogy even in Iraq to what Russia is doing in Crimea. Even in Iraq, even I was surprised when we didn't turn up a single credible pile of chemical weapons - even the military planners had our guys lugging chemical warfare gear into Iraq. And, while imo the claim of WOMD was really a fiction to allow nation building, the sanctions we put in place back with BushI were directly responsible for a generation of Iraqi kids growing up with food and medicine deficiencies

WE fucked up bigly in Gulf WarI, and Poppy never really considered sanctions, and then after "winning" the war, he got the UN to impose the very sanctions that isolated Saddam and Iran. THAT may be a lesson for Russia and Ukraine. And what would we do if Russia is successful in overrunning the entire country, and then uses chem weapons to subdue a Ukranian insurgency?

Nobody believes the claims of "chemical weapons" any longer because there have been too many lies created to justify our invasion of other countries.

 

[Alexandre Fedorovski]

Link please, I think you're hallucinating. What shit-hole country are you from??
The US is all about the suffering going on in Ukraine and working hard to stop it.

And where was your personal compassion when for eight years the Russian-speaking population of Donbass lived under the fire of the pro-American Ukrainian military, where more than 14 thousand civilians, including children, were killed and more than 40 thousand maimed???

Or are they not "human beings"???!

More than 240 children were killed and from 167 to 500 were injured in eastern Ukraine in Luhansk and Donetsk regions

 

[bendog]

We weren't involved which is the point. We thought we would get involved and put a new leader in place. One that we could support and of course would do what we wanted.



Nobody believes the claims of "chemical weapons" any longer because there have been too many lies created to justify our invasion of other countries.

But Ukraine was not in any civil war, at least beyond what Putin tried to instigate in 2004.. In Libya and Syria, ISIS was a player in trying to take control of the country by killing civilians. Russia's invasion was not based on anything remotely factually comparable.

 

[pknopp]

But Ukraine was not in any civil war, at least beyond what Putin tried to instigate in 2004.. In Libya and Syria, ISIS was a player in trying to take control of the country by killing civilians. Russia's invasion was not based on anything remotely factually comparable.

And as you noted, neither was Iraq. We ended up killing the same civilians we condemned others for killing in every one of these examples.

 

[Lesh]

And where was your personal compassion when for eight years the Russian-speaking population of Donbass lived under the fire of the pro-American Ukrainian military, where more than 14 thousand civilians, including children, were killed and more than 40 thousand maimed???

Or are they not "human beings"???!

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Save the Putin propaganda for your fellow Russians...who will soon be under martial law

 

[kyzr]

And where was your personal compassion when for eight years the Russian-speaking population of Donbas lived under the fire of the pro-American Ukrainian military, where more than 14 thousand civilians, including children, were killed and more than 40 thousand maimed???
Or are they not "human beings"???!

1. Who started the fighting in Donbas (Ukraine)?
2. Did Russia invade and occupy Donbas (Ukraine) creating the mess you describe? Yes or No?
3. What are you whining about? What action should have been taken by whom?
4. Humans get hurt in war zones, just look at what the Russian military is doing to cities in Ukraine today.

I can show you similar photos from war zones all over the world.

 

[bendog]

And as you noted, neither was Iraq. We ended up killing the same civilians we condemned others for killing in every one of these examples.

I was against BOTH invasions of Iraq. But what is .. is. We did not target civilians in either war. IraqI unfortuanely created the embargos that led to Saddam using money released for humanitarian purposes for his own. WE and the UN then tried to allow Iraq to have food and medicine directly. And Saddam was bribing the UN. Imo, that was part of the basis for W's decision .... try and fix what BushtheGreater unintentionally created. But the savagery of the Shia and Sunnis was largely self inflicted, and we sacrificed (how easy that word is to use) most of the best of our children trying to keep those two "tribes" apart.

 

[pknopp]

I was against BOTH invasions of Iraq. But what is .. is. We did not target civilians in either war. IraqI unfortuanely created the embargos that led to Saddam using money released for humanitarian purposes for his own. WE and the UN then tried to allow Iraq to have food and medicine directly. And Saddam was bribing the UN. Imo, that was part of the basis for W's decision .... try and fix what BushtheGreater unintentionally created. But the savagery of the Shia and Sunnis was largely self inflicted, and we sacrificed (how easy that word is to use) most of the best of our children trying to keep those two "tribes" apart.

To say that civilians are not targeted is a lie we use to try and soothe our conscience. You don't drop bombs from the air not believing civilians will be killed.

 

[bendog]

To say that civilians are not targeted is a lie we use to try and soothe our conscience. You don't drop bombs from the air not believing civilians will be killed.

The US never intentionally targeted a target just to kill civilians. If you have an instance of our military doing that, please let me know. But yah, wars have a tendency to get innocent non-combatants killed.

And imo the reporting was credible of W not even knowing the shia and sunni hated each other enough to butcher entire neighborhoods and villages