Yes it is great that Trump was the elected candidate of the right.

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I think it clarified the potential destruction of this country, that is the only thing offered by the right and it clearly shows how dangerous , hateful and evil the right has become. They are by far a bigger threat to this country than any terrorist group. The hate can destroy our values and this country in many ways but I think the thing that will destroy us the fastest is totally taking away the incentive of capitalism with their distribution of wealth to the top.
 
Let us make sure we get out and vote before this moron starts WW 3
 
Trump has really awakened a lot of people to the potential demise of America at the hands of democrats...
 
I think it clarified the potential destruction of this country, that is the only thing offered by the right and it clearly shows how dangerous , hateful and evil the right has become. They are by far a bigger threat to this country than any terrorist group. The hate can destroy our values and this country in many ways but I think the thing that will destroy us the fastest is totally taking away the incentive of capitalism with their distribution of wealth to the top.

Uhm... NO!

I am not a Trump fan boy, anyone here who is can confirm this, I have spoken out against his policy ideas many times and continue to point out his inconsistencies with conservatism and free market capitalism. I don't believe Trump is a free market capitalist because he doesn't like to practice free market capitalism personally and his protectionist trade policy is counter-intuitive to free market capitalism. All that said, he is not the dangerous imminent threat you make him out to be at all. The FAR bigger threat are the Marxist-Socialists who have taken over the Democrat party.

You have obviously bought in to their "wealth distribution" propaganda and it's a shame because you really honestly believe they make a valid point when they actually don't. It is the ability of the individual to attain wealth which makes free market capitalism the best system ever devised by mankind. Naturally, individuals who are good at creating wealth are going to accumulate more of it than individuals who aren't as good at it. That's not a BAD thing, it's a GOOD thing in a free market system because it's entirely up to the individual and their efforts. Under this system, you can literally go from being a peasant without any wealth to one of the wealthiest people in the country through your own efforts.

Marxist redistribution principles remove your ability to do this. It promises a more "equitable" or "equal" disbursement of wealth but it doesn't deliver satisfactory results. This is largely due to greed and corruption within the system but it is primarily because you've removed the freedom to accumulate wealth by the individual. What you inevitably end up with is a few people at the top with all the wealth AND all the power too. You see, in a free market system, the wealthy might have more of the wealth but the power is retained by the people. So we can fight greedy corporatism and exploitation of governmental power to enhance wealth. We can boycott capitalists through the power of the consumer and mitigate their rampant accumulation of wealth. We can pass laws to regulate capitalists who gouge and take advantage of others. We have that power in a free market system. In a Marxist system, those with the wealth have that power and they will not ever regulate themselves. If you sacrifice your freedom you will be exploited, it happens every time in human history. There is no Utopia.

You have to condition your mind to think of wealth in a different way. The Marxists want you to believe that wealth is finite... only a certain amount exists and it's all accumulating at the top while the bottom goes lacking. That is patently incorrect in principle because wealth is created. To illustrate what I mean, think of yourself as an artist who paints portraits. You have a talent... you put your effort and time into creating something that you sell to another for wealth. Now you will have to use some of that wealth to buy canvas, brushes and paint... to pay for your food and roof over your head, to support your family, etc. But you will also accumulate wealth in the process. This is created wealth you obtained through your initiative, talent and skill. Do you believe you deserve to keep that wealth? Or should you share that wealth with everyone else who doesn't have your talent? In a free market, you are not only allowed to keep the wealth but this encourages you to generate even more wealth that you can also keep. In a Marxist system, you don't get to keep the wealth and therefore, you have no incentive to create more.

I'm getting way off the topic here but Trump is certainly not the enemy and certainly not more dangerous than a radicalized intolerant religious fanaticism that disrespects women, minorities, other religious beliefs and homosexuals. Far more dangerous than Trump is this insidious Marxist rhetoric regarding wealth distribution and class warfare.
 
I am not a Trump fan boy, anyone here who is can confirm this, I have spoken out against his policy ideas many times and continue to point out his inconsistencies with conservatism and free market capitalism. I don't believe Trump is a free market capitalist because he doesn't like to practice free market capitalism personally and his protectionist trade policy is counter-intuitive to free market capitalism. All that said, he is not the dangerous imminent threat you make him out to be at all. The FAR bigger threat are the Marxist-Socialists who have taken over the Democrat party.

Cruz are Conservatism.

And Trump are a racist.
 
I think it clarified the potential destruction of this country, that is the only thing offered by the right and it clearly shows how dangerous , hateful and evil the right has become. They are by far a bigger threat to this country than any terrorist group. The hate can destroy our values and this country in many ways but I think the thing that will destroy us the fastest is totally taking away the incentive of capitalism with their distribution of wealth to the top.

Uhm... NO!

I am not a Trump fan boy, anyone here who is can confirm this, I have spoken out against his policy ideas many times and continue to point out his inconsistencies with conservatism and free market capitalism. I don't believe Trump is a free market capitalist because he doesn't like to practice free market capitalism personally and his protectionist trade policy is counter-intuitive to free market capitalism. All that said, he is not the dangerous imminent threat you make him out to be at all. The FAR bigger threat are the Marxist-Socialists who have taken over the Democrat party.

You have obviously bought in to their "wealth distribution" propaganda and it's a shame because you really honestly believe they make a valid point when they actually don't. It is the ability of the individual to attain wealth which makes free market capitalism the best system ever devised by mankind. Naturally, individuals who are good at creating wealth are going to accumulate more of it than individuals who aren't as good at it. That's not a BAD thing, it's a GOOD thing in a free market system because it's entirely up to the individual and their efforts. Under this system, you can literally go from being a peasant without any wealth to one of the wealthiest people in the country through your own efforts.

Marxist redistribution principles remove your ability to do this. It promises a more "equitable" or "equal" disbursement of wealth but it doesn't deliver satisfactory results. This is largely due to greed and corruption within the system but it is primarily because you've removed the freedom to accumulate wealth by the individual. What you inevitably end up with is a few people at the top with all the wealth AND all the power too. You see, in a free market system, the wealthy might have more of the wealth but the power is retained by the people. So we can fight greedy corporatism and exploitation of governmental power to enhance wealth. We can boycott capitalists through the power of the consumer and mitigate their rampant accumulation of wealth. We can pass laws to regulate capitalists who gouge and take advantage of others. We have that power in a free market system. In a Marxist system, those with the wealth have that power and they will not ever regulate themselves. If you sacrifice your freedom you will be exploited, it happens every time in human history. There is no Utopia.

You have to condition your mind to think of wealth in a different way. The Marxists want you to believe that wealth is finite... only a certain amount exists and it's all accumulating at the top while the bottom goes lacking. That is patently incorrect in principle because wealth is created. To illustrate what I mean, think of yourself as an artist who paints portraits. You have a talent... you put your effort and time into creating something that you sell to another for wealth. Now you will have to use some of that wealth to buy canvas, brushes and paint... to pay for your food and roof over your head, to support your family, etc. But you will also accumulate wealth in the process. This is created wealth you obtained through your initiative, talent and skill. Do you believe you deserve to keep that wealth? Or should you share that wealth with everyone else who doesn't have your talent? In a free market, you are not only allowed to keep the wealth but this encourages you to generate even more wealth that you can also keep. In a Marxist system, you don't get to keep the wealth and therefore, you have no incentive to create more.

I'm getting way off the topic here but Trump is certainly not the enemy and certainly not more dangerous than a radicalized intolerant religious fanaticism that disrespects women, minorities, other religious beliefs and homosexuals. Far more dangerous than Trump is this insidious Marxist rhetoric regarding wealth distribution and class warfare.
Well you hit the bullshit button real fast, you have zero Idea what it takes to be a socialist or communist, what your saying simply has no fact to it. Go to your encyclopedia and come back and tell us by the main tenants of Communism/socialism that I or my party are what your bullshit says. until you do that your simply not here.
 
Well you hit the bullshit button real fast, you have zero Idea what it takes to be a socialist or communist, what your saying simply has no fact to it. Go to your encyclopedia and come back and tell us by the main tenants of Communism/socialism that I or my party are what your bullshit says. until you do that your simply not here.

The thing is, you didn't really point out anything I said that wasn't factual, you just made a blanket refutation of everything I posted. That's the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying, "lalalallalalalala!"

If you read the Democrat party platform you will find that it is almost verbatim with what is in Marx's Communist Manifesto, which I highly doubt you've ever read. The entire "1% vs. 99%" meme is directly pulled from Chairman Mao's revolution in China. The message is identical... capitalism is evil. The encyclopedia is great but what you desperately need is a remedial course in World History from someone other than Marxist propagandists. All of your shit has been tried before and when it inevitably goes tits-up, the results are horrific and heinous atrocities the likes of which humanity has never seen. Hundreds of millions have died as a result and it happens every single time.

Contrast that with American free market capitalism, representative republican government and a constitution supporting inalienable rights endowed by a Creator, and you have a system that has created more millionaires and billionaires, as well as lifting more from poverty, than any system man has ever come up with. You're ready to piss that all away for yet another go at a failed 19th century ideology which has never worked and never will.
 
Cruz are Conservatism.

And Trump are a racist.

Well, Cruz is a Conservative and Trump is not a racist. He might not be a Conservative but he's certainly not a racist. It's funny that the man has been in the public eye for over 40 years, working deals with every minority imaginable, promoting things and partnering with minorities in the most diversified city in America... and has NEVER been accused of being a racist until he ran for president as a Republican.

This "racist" card is what the Democrats play when all else fails. They've been doing this for years and years... most of us on the right are used to it by now. When you attempt to apply it to someone like Donald Trump, you really expose yourselves as the fraudulent representatives you are.
 
Cruz are Conservatism.

And Trump are a racist.

Well, Cruz is a Conservative and Trump is not a racist. He might not be a Conservative but he's certainly not a racist. It's funny that the man has been in the public eye for over 40 years, working deals with every minority imaginable, promoting things and partnering with minorities in the most diversified city in America... and has NEVER been accused of being a racist until he ran for president as a Republican.

This "racist" card is what the Democrats play when all else fails. They've been doing this for years and years... most of us on the right are used to it by now. When you attempt to apply it to someone like Donald Trump, you really expose yourselves as the fraudulent representatives you are.
The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people

He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”

He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents

failed to disavow the Ku Klux Klan
In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career,
The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine. Also many more examples

He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him

He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

“The Hispanics are going to get those jobs, and they’re going to love Trump.” Donald Trump, July 2015

How did Trump respond to critics of his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S.?

“I’m doing good for the Muslims,” Trump told CNN in December. “Many Muslim friends of mine are in agreement with me. They say, ‘Donald, you brought something up to the fore that is so brilliant and so fantastic.’”

In 1993, when Trump wanted to open a casino in Bridgeport, Connecticut, that would compete with one owned by the Mashantucket Pequot Nation, a local Native American tribe, he told the House subcommittee on Native American Affairs that “they don’t look like Indians to me... They don’t look like Indians to Indians.”

Trump then elaborated on those remarks, which were unearthed last year in the Hartford Courant, by saying the mafia had infiltrated Indian casinos.

He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester

He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate”

He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists
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He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife

Or simply go to Fortune magazine the liberal bastion and see what they think------ Is Donald Trump Racist? Here's what the record shows

He is a fucking bigot. He is as racist as they come and his history totally supports this.
 
The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people

The Justice Department didn't sue anybody. Your government cannot sue you.

He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents

Yes he did. He attacks a lot of people.

He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

So did Hillary Clinton in 2008.

He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife

No, he criticized Jeb's objectivity on the illegal immigration question because his wife was Mexican. Trump's own wife is an immigrant and one of his ex-wives is an immigrant. He also owned the Miss Universe pageant.

He is a fucking bigot. He is as racist as they come and his history totally supports this.

Well, that's your opinion and I think you're wrong.
I think Hillary is far more racist and Obama as well.
 
The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people

The Justice Department didn't sue anybody. Your government cannot sue you.

He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents

Yes he did. He attacks a lot of people.

He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

So did Hillary Clinton in 2008.

He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife

No, he criticized Jeb's objectivity on the illegal immigration question because his wife was Mexican. Trump's own wife is an immigrant and one of his ex-wives is an immigrant. He also owned the Miss Universe pageant.

He is a fucking bigot. He is as racist as they come and his history totally supports this.

Well, that's your opinion and I think you're wrong.
I think Hillary is far more racist and Obama as well.
It's not a opinion unless you can prove the statements I gave you are not what he did or said. You just another monomind from the right that breaths and lives by Fox Crap News and that fat guy . You are just as bad because your supporting his hate and bigotry.
 
The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people

The Justice Department didn't sue anybody. Your government cannot sue you.

He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents

Yes he did. He attacks a lot of people.

He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

So did Hillary Clinton in 2008.

He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife

No, he criticized Jeb's objectivity on the illegal immigration question because his wife was Mexican. Trump's own wife is an immigrant and one of his ex-wives is an immigrant. He also owned the Miss Universe pageant.

He is a fucking bigot. He is as racist as they come and his history totally supports this.

Well, that's your opinion and I think you're wrong.
I think Hillary is far more racist and Obama as well.
By the way love your excuses for him.
 
It's not a opinion unless you can prove the statements I gave you are not what he did or said. You just another monomind from the right that breaths and lives by Fox Crap News and that fat guy . You are just as bad because your supporting his hate and bigotry.

Uhm, no... I'm pretty sure it is still an opinion. None of the statements clearly indicate anything regarding racial superiority or inferiority. You can INFER that but that is your opinion. This is the typical mindset of rabid liberals... you literally believe everything you say is correct and you're never wrong in your opinions. Ergo: Your opinions become "facts!"
 
By the way love your excuses for him.

Pull your head out of your ass... I don't make excuses for Trump. I'm getting raked over the coals daily by the Trumpbots for not marching in lockstep behind their Orange Jesus.

There is no "excuse" in me saying he is not a racist. He's had over 40 years in public life working with all sorts of minorities, marrying immigrants, living and operating in the most diverse city in America and until he decided to run for president, no claim had ever been made that he was racist. It is a little suspicious this allegation comes up now. Especially since no clear evidence can be presented and we have to interject opinionated meanings and interpretations of things he has said to find racism.

Simply put, this tells even a moron that you are out of ideas. You simply can't find anything that sticks with Trump and so you've decided to go nuclear on the racist claims and hope that it steers a few voters away from him.
 
I think it clarified the potential destruction of this country, that is the only thing offered by the right and it clearly shows how dangerous , hateful and evil the right has become. They are by far a bigger threat to this country than any terrorist group. The hate can destroy our values and this country in many ways but I think the thing that will destroy us the fastest is totally taking away the incentive of capitalism with their distribution of wealth to the top.
You do know it's one party rule in Washington right now, the progressive party. Dip shit LOL
 

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