Trump is going to make historical changes

You did not address the grift of Putin and the lack of grift of Zeleski, why?

Oh and by the end and as far as truth is concerned. Trump promised to get rid of grift (drain the swamp) the first time around and what he accomplished was a much bigger swamp (more grift than before) and all by Republicans.

As such, grift is not a democratic trait, it is a politician trait and Trump is now a politician and is bringing in people that are going to create grift for themselves (as all politicians do). This is guaranteed because the people he is bringing in are mostly all rich and accomplished their richness by grifting.
None of the things you talk about are facts.
You just keep devolving back into your TDS.
Your theories are laughable.
When tater said repeatedly that he would not pardon his son I'm sure you believed him.
Why did he pardon hunter?
Why was the pardon for everything 11 years back until now?
That's an odd number.
Maybe you should look into that.
 
None of the things you talk about are facts.
You just keep devolving back into your TDS.
Your theories are laughable.
When tater said repeatedly that he would not pardon his son I'm sure you believed him.
Why did he pardon hunter?
Why was the pardon for everything 11 years back until now?
That's an odd number.
Maybe you should look into that.
No, what Putin and Zelenski have in net worth is public though perhaps "a bit more or a bit less. So yes, those are facts. What are not known facts is the grift you are talking about. General grift is known to happen but you cannot truly put specific graft on anyone person.

as far as Biden pardoning his son. Under the circumstances, I would have done exactly the same thing and here is why. When he said he would not pardon Hunter was on June 6th when he was still the nominee. As the presidential nominee representing the Democratic party, he had an official obligation to follow the rules and the law.

When he no longer was the nominee, he still had that obligation as Kamala (his vice president) was the one running. Nonetheless, when Trump became the president on November 6th, the obligation he had to the party ceased to exist, especially when the party itself was done. A new party has to be built to represent the Democrats in the future.

At that time, he did not have to do anything more for the party or for Kamala, especially since the party deserted him and the party was no longer a valid party for the future. At that time, his son and his family became thje #1 priority. In addition and probably even more the reason for Joe to do what he did is that Trump promised pardons for over 700 Jan 6th protestors at the Capitol that had either pleaded guilty or were found guilty in a court of law. Promising to pardon these convicted criminals, meant that even the new President was not being faithful to the pardon rule.

As such, absolutely Joe did the right thing "under these circumstances". You ever heard the adage about "when in Rome do as the Romans do"? Or the rule that one "plays by the rules set in the league that you are playing in". Trump is pardoning criminals so Biden can (and must) do the same thing. That is called fair play.

You and the rest of the biased and "our way or the highway" mentality that is brought to this nation cannot see the common sense in this? Shame on you. If you cannot see it, then you are just plain idiots.
 
No, what Putin and Zelenski have in net worth is public though perhaps "a bit more or a bit less. So yes, those are facts. What are not known facts is the grift you are talking about. General grift is known to happen but you cannot truly put specific graft on anyone person.

as far as Biden pardoning his son. Under the circumstances, I would have done exactly the same thing and here is why. When he said he would not pardon Hunter was on June 6th when he was still the nominee. As the presidential nominee representing the Democratic party, he had an official obligation to follow the rules and the law.

When he no longer was the nominee, he still had that obligation as Kamala (his vice president) was the one running. Nonetheless, when Trump became the president on November 6th, the obligation he had to the party ceased to exist, especially when the party itself was done. A new party has to be built to represent the Democrats in the future.

At that time, he did not have to do anything more for the party or for Kamala, especially since the party deserted him and the party was no longer a valid party for the future. At that time, his son and his family became thje #1 priority. In addition and probably even more the reason for Joe to do what he did is that Trump promised pardons for over 700 Jan 6th protestors at the Capitol that had either pleaded guilty or were found guilty in a court of law. Promising to pardon these convicted criminals, meant that even the new President was not being faithful to the pardon rule.

As such, absolutely Joe did the right thing "under these circumstances". You ever heard the adage about "when in Rome do as the Romans do"? Or the rule that one "plays by the rules set in the league that you are playing in". Trump is pardoning criminals so Biden can (and must) do the same thing. That is called fair play.

You and the rest of the biased and "our way or the highway" mentality that is brought to this nation cannot see the common sense in this? Shame on you. If you cannot see it, then you are just plain idiots.
Again with the TDS claptrap. It's more than predictable. That's one thing that ignorance, corruption, Indoctrination, and criminality have in common, Very predictable. bite me ran for the Presidency in the eighties and he was kicked off the campaign. By who, that's right his own party. Reasons sited (tater had a plagiarism problem and a lying problem). That was back when the dems had a modicum of some standard of ethics.
Remember when cornpop said he had no awareness or contact with hunter's business dealings and then the photo of him and hunters grifting buddies on the golf course arose where they were all hugging and grabbing each other's butts. LIE!
Your ramblings about tater's obligations to pardon his felon son for all of his numerous haneous crimes is just off the charts ignorant.
He kept saying he wasn't going to do that and mindless lemmings like you lapped it up like junkyard dogs.
You keep falling for obvious lies and grift. This is why no one respects your conclusions.
You can bloviate all you want about putin and zelensky. Nobody wants your b.s. grift war. Politicians kept sending over tax payer's money while the tax payer's repeatedly begged them not too.
Again there are better ways to solve international problems then just going to war all the time.
War does not serve or help citizens. It only helps the grifters in this situation.
Maybe if you weren't eyeball deep in your media induced TDS you could have voted for more competent leaders. But orange man bad and all.
Remember when he and cackles said the border was perfectly fine. LIE!
They were importing hundreds of thousands of criminal illegal aliens all over the country at tax payers expense. Laken Riley basically paid her taxes so tater and cackles could import a criminal illegal alien to rape and kill her. Good job butt heads.
Hundreds of thousands of children trafficked and raped based on poopypants border policies. Why did old poopy eliminate all of President Trumps border policies which were working immediately when he entered office. Was it possible it was out of pure spite?
The dems/leftists number one, bedrock, cornerstone issue is abortion. You people scream it from the top of your lungs from the top of the mountains. Over 60,000,000 babies have been killed in the wound for your political wedge issue policies.
Someone with a track record like that has no business pointing there finger at anyone for anything on the face of the earth.
SHAME ON YOU.
But here you are continuing to carry water for you corrupt leaders.
Should we talk about the disastrous pull out in Afghanistan?
Why did cornpop pardon everything under the sun for hunter for the past eleven years?
About eleven years ago hunter was receiving eighty thousand dollar checks every pay period at Burisma in UKRAINE!
On national television he stated he had no experience in the energy sector, no degree in energy and he didn't even speak the language.
Maybe you should look into that.
Or you can just remain an Indoctrinated fool.
The choice is yours , but by every measurable metric the American People are moving on and your low info cult is dwindling.
 
"grift of the Ukraine?

You do realize that Putin is either #1 or #2 richest man in the world, don't you? and he only makes $140,000 salary as a president! On the other hand, Zelensky of Ukraine has at most a net worth of $20 million (about 1/15 of what Putin has).

So when you talk about Ukrainian grift, the facts don't back you up at all. Grift seems to be BIG in Russia and with Putin. Any comment on that?
So you won't answer the question just say that and save yourself the embarrassment
 
Again with the TDS claptrap. It's more than predictable. That's one thing that ignorance, corruption, Indoctrination, and criminality have in common, Very predictable. bite me ran for the Presidency in the eighties and he was kicked off the campaign. By who, that's right his own party. Reasons sited (tater had a plagiarism problem and a lying problem). That was back when the dems had a modicum of some standard of ethics.
Remember when cornpop said he had no awareness or contact with hunter's business dealings and then the photo of him and hunters grifting buddies on the golf course arose where they were all hugging and grabbing each other's butts. LIE!
Your ramblings about tater's obligations to pardon his felon son for all of his numerous haneous crimes is just off the charts ignorant.
He kept saying he wasn't going to do that and mindless lemmings like you lapped it up like junkyard dogs.
You keep falling for obvious lies and grift. This is why no one respects your conclusions.
You can bloviate all you want about putin and zelensky. Nobody wants your b.s. grift war. Politicians kept sending over tax payer's money while the tax payer's repeatedly begged them not too.
Again there are better ways to solve international problems then just going to war all the time.
War does not serve or help citizens. It only helps the grifters in this situation.
Maybe if you weren't eyeball deep in your media induced TDS you could have voted for more competent leaders. But orange man bad and all.
Remember when he and cackles said the border was perfectly fine. LIE!
They were importing hundreds of thousands of criminal illegal aliens all over the country at tax payers expense. Laken Riley basically paid her taxes so tater and cackles could import a criminal illegal alien to rape and kill her. Good job butt heads.
Hundreds of thousands of children trafficked and raped based on poopypants border policies. Why did old poopy eliminate all of President Trumps border policies which were working immediately when he entered office. Was it possible it was out of pure spite?
The dems/leftists number one, bedrock, cornerstone issue is abortion. You people scream it from the top of your lungs from the top of the mountains. Over 60,000,000 babies have been killed in the wound for your political wedge issue policies.
Someone with a track record like that has no business pointing there finger at anyone for anything on the face of the earth.
SHAME ON YOU.
But here you are continuing to carry water for you corrupt leaders.
Should we talk about the disastrous pull out in Afghanistan?
Why did cornpop pardon everything under the sun for hunter for the past eleven years?
About eleven years ago hunter was receiving eighty thousand dollar checks every pay period at Burisma in UKRAINE!
On national television he stated he had no experience in the energy sector, no degree in energy and he didn't even speak the language.
Maybe you should look into that.
Or you can just remain an Indoctrinated fool.
The choice is yours , but by every measurable metric the American People are moving on and your low info cult is dwindling.
After the first sentence about TDS, I stopped reading

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Ok Dr. Cut and Paste
Do you have anything intelligent or original to say or are you going to continue to devolve into you TDS madness?
The American People are waving bye bye to you low info cult warriors. The results of the election should have been your first clue.
Hang on to that TDS, it's going to be a long winter.
 
Ok Dr. Cut and Paste
Do you have anything intelligent or original to say or are you going to continue to devolve into you TDS madness?
The American People are waving bye bye to you low info cult warriors. The results of the election should have been your first clue.
Hang on to that TDS, it's going to be a long winter.
From your approach to this by debasing me with the TDS comment, evidently there is nothing I can say that would make you see things differently, meaning I am wasting my time.

Your comment about the American People are saying bye bye to me, is ridiculous. How would you know what others are thinking about me, other than those on this board. Keep in mind that it is I that have said bye bye to over 30 people on this board and not the opposite.

The result of the election means nothing when you consider that by nature people are human and humans make mistakes all the time. In 4 years (not now), we will see if they chose correctly or made a mistake. It is what Trump DOES or DOESN'T DO that will be the determining factor (not the pro).

Based on the proven history of "incompetence" that Trump has, the PROBABILITIES favor him being incompetent again and the electors that chose him (like you) be proven to be the idiots.

Oh and by the way, you calling a person stating data, statistics, and facts to be having TDS, shows exactly where your mind is (in the gutter). Facts cannot be TDS

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From your approach to this by debasing me with the TDS comment, evidently there is nothing I can say that would make you see things differently, meaning I am wasting my time.

Your comment about the American People are saying bye bye to me, is ridiculous. How would you know what others are thinking about me, other than those on this board. Keep in mind that it is I that have said bye bye to over 30 people on this board and not the opposite.

The result of the election means nothing when you consider that by nature people are human and humans make mistakes all the time. In 4 years (not now), we will see if they chose correctly or made a mistake. It is what Trump DOES or DOESN'T DO that will be the determining factor (not the pro).

Based on the proven history of "incompetence" that Trump has, the PROBABILITIES favor him being incompetent again and the electors that chose him (like you) be proven to be the idiots.

Oh and by the way, you calling a person stating data, statistics, and facts to be having TDS, shows exactly where your mind is (in the gutter). Facts cannot be TDS

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You can bloviate about your feelings all you want Dr. cut and paste. Again, the reason I know that everyone is waving bye bye to you is because of the outcome of the election. President Trump won the popular vote, the electoral college and he won every swing state.
312>226
Again, those are numbers not your feelings.
The people who voted for cornpop and cackles did make a mistake and it was a disaster.
The American People have rectified the mistake.
So cut and paste away!
 
You can bloviate about your feelings all you want Dr. cut and paste. Again, the reason I know that everyone is waving bye bye to you is because of the outcome of the election. President Trump won the popular vote, the electoral college and he won every swing state.
312>226
Again, those are numbers not your feelings.
The people who voted for cornpop and cackles did make a mistake and it was a disaster.
The American People have rectified the mistake.
So cut and paste away!
What YOU don't seem to understand that winning the election only means that Trump is going to be the president for the next 4 years BUT is doesn't guarantee what the results of his actions will be. Most analysts (myself included) see an incompetent man full of hate and revenge that failed on 75% of his promises in 2016 - 2020 and that has plans for 2024 - 2028 that actually do the opposite of what he thinks they will do. One thing is for certain, Trump's hate and revenge brings disunity and his incompetence brings lots of failure, his plans to deport all illegal aliens is so expensive that the National debt will soar and his plans to raise tariffs on most everyone but 60% on China are inflationary.

All of the above is either common sense or simple mathematics, It is not opinion. Yes, some of these actions can bring positive results IF done properly but as of today, the actions needed for that to happen have not been mentioned by anyone, suggesting they will not be done.

Last but not least, his picks for the cabinet positions and for the heads of industries has been done with Loyalty being the most important. Loyalty does not guarantee competence but it does guarantee that one man (Trump) will be making the final decisions and given that Trump has been mostly incompetent in his life, it does mean that a lot of bad decisions will be made.

So having won the election is not the win you expect. It is simply the first step down a road that based on all of the above is likely to end up creating more problems than solving them.

One good thing for YOU is that you still have 6 weeks starting today, where you can boast and enjoy the win..............then reality steps in and we will all reap the benefits or suffer the consequences of the election win.

One piece of advice, prepare yourself for the negatives mentioned above. If you are not prepared for the negatives, they will hit you more strongly than you expect.
 
What YOU don't seem to understand that winning the election only means that Trump is going to be the president for the next 4 years BUT is doesn't guarantee what the results of his actions will be. Most analysts (myself included) see an incompetent man full of hate and revenge that failed on 75% of his promises in 2016 - 2020 and that has plans for 2024 - 2028 that actually do the opposite of what he thinks they will do. One thing is for certain, Trump's hate and revenge brings disunity and his incompetence brings lots of failure, his plans to deport all illegal aliens is so expensive that the National debt will soar and his plans to raise tariffs on most everyone but 60% on China are inflationary.

All of the above is either common sense or simple mathematics, It is not opinion. Yes, some of these actions can bring positive results IF done properly but as of today, the actions needed for that to happen have not been mentioned by anyone, suggesting they will not be done.

Last but not least, his picks for the cabinet positions and for the heads of industries has been done with Loyalty being the most important. Loyalty does not guarantee competence but it does guarantee that one man (Trump) will be making the final decisions and given that Trump has been mostly incompetent in his life, it does mean that a lot of bad decisions will be made.

So having won the election is not the win you expect. It is simply the first step down a road that based on all of the above is likely to end up creating more problems than solving them.

One good thing for YOU is that you still have 6 weeks starting today, where you can boast and enjoy the win..............then reality steps in and we will all reap the benefits or suffer the consequences of the election win.

One piece of advice, prepare yourself for the negatives mentioned above. If you are not prepared for the negatives, they will hit you more strongly than you expect.
What you fail to understand is that President Trump is a known quantity. He is unique in the fact that he did have a successful four year term and all exit polling indicates that. That's why The American People overwhelmingly voted for him. Your paper weight analysts mean nothing. The actual doers, the people that actually run big businesses in real life, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, etc. are flocking to him now because he has positive economic growth strategies.
One of the the main reasons a massive majority of The American People voted for President Trump was based on the political/judicial lawfare that the bite me administration brought against him. And exit polls bare that out as well. The American People DID NOT LIKE THAT!!!! Ok!!!! Get a clue. I can't keep repeating it for you. That's why loyalty is such a big issue. He can't have unscrupulous people in his administration undermining him and trying to take him down. The American People voted. THEY DON'T WANT THAT!!!!! Ok!!!
How do you honestly think the tater head/ cackles administration is going to go down in history?
If I were you, I would drop the whole TDS thing, because at this point your just going to go down with the ship.
 
What you fail to understand is that President Trump is a known quantity. He is unique in the fact that he did have a successful four year term and all exit polling indicates that. That's why The American People overwhelmingly voted for him. Your paper weight analysts mean nothing. The actual doers, the people that actually run big businesses in real life, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, etc. are flocking to him now because he has positive economic growth strategies.
One of the the main reasons a massive majority of The American People voted for President Trump was based on the political/judicial lawfare that the bite me administration brought against him. And exit polls bare that out as well. The American People DID NOT LIKE THAT!!!! Ok!!!! Get a clue. I can't keep repeating it for you. That's why loyalty is such a big issue. He can't have unscrupulous people in his administration undermining him and trying to take him down. The American People voted. THEY DON'T WANT THAT!!!!! Ok!!!
How do you honestly think the tater head/ cackles administration is going to go down in history?
If I were you, I would drop the whole TDS thing, because at this point your just going to go down with the ship.
There are a lot of factors that you have not considered in your evaluation

1) in 2016, Trump inherited a growing economy with no problems. In 2024, he is inheriting a situation with lots of problems
2) Granted, his policies are good for making the rich get richer but is that a positive now when the 1% of the rich have as much as the other 99% of the population has?
3) Being a good president is not all about money. Unity, health, inflation, justice, etc. are just as important and he has not shown success in the latter.
4) being the choice of the public does not guarantee success. Perfect example is Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who won the vote and mandate of the people in1998 like Trump did in 2024. Look at what happened in Venezuela from the moment Chavez took over.

Like I said in the other post, you are entitled to your opinion/evaluation but I would bet that my opinion/evaluation is better than yours.
 
There are a lot of factors that you have not considered in your evaluation

1) in 2016, Trump inherited a growing economy with no problems. In 2024, he is inheriting a situation with lots of problems
2) Granted, his policies are good for making the rich get richer but is that a positive now when the 1% of the rich have as much as the other 99% of the population has?
3) Being a good president is not all about money. Unity, health, inflation, justice, etc. are just as important and he has not shown success in the latter.
4) being the choice of the public does not guarantee success. Perfect example is Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who won the vote and mandate of the people in1998 like Trump did in 2024. Look at what happened in Venezuela from the moment Chavez took over.

Like I said in the other post, you are entitled to your opinion/evaluation but I would bet that my opinion/evaluation is better than yours.
1). You are just flat out wrong about your assessment. barack did not have a good economy. Fact.
2). During the first Trump administration gas was down, inflation down and interest rates down. Those are actual numbers not your feelings. President Trump did that.
3). Good point. People overwhelmingly voted for a stronger border and safer communities. That's why they voted for President Trump. Let's not forget the main purpose of the Presidency. You know, to keep the country safe. So ya, good point.
4). Another good point. Being the choice of the public does not guarantee success. All you morons voted for the cornpop/ cackles shit show. So again, thank you for another good point.
You seem to be on quite a loosing streak here.
 
1). You are just flat out wrong about your assessment. barack did not have a good economy. Fact.
2). During the first Trump administration gas was down, inflation down and interest rates down. Those are actual numbers not your feelings. President Trump did that.
3). Good point. People overwhelmingly voted for a stronger border and safer communities. That's why they voted for President Trump. Let's not forget the main purpose of the Presidency. You know, to keep the country safe. So ya, good point.
4). Another good point. Being the choice of the public does not guarantee success. All you morons voted for the cornpop/ cackles shit show. So again, thank you for another good point.
You seem to be on quite a loosing streak here.
That is not what the facts say
 
It is what the facts say.
312>226
What do I keep telling you about your feelings and emotions.
You are now getting ridicously repetitive and that info means absolutely nothing as votes are opinions and not tangible evaluations of data, statistics and facts.

If you want to live your life based on what other people say you should do, that is your prerogotive. In my case, I choose to live my life by achieving knowledge of the data, statistics and facts that are out there, and not by what the majority think I should do.
 
You can bloviate about your feelings all you want Dr. cut and paste. Again, the reason I know that everyone is waving bye bye to you is because of the outcome of the election. President Trump won the popular vote, the electoral college and he won every swing state.
312>226
Again, those are numbers not your feelings.
The people who voted for cornpop and cackles did make a mistake and it was a disaster.
The American People have rectified the mistake.
So cut and paste away!
Bye Bye
 
It is what the facts say.
312>226
What do I keep telling you about your feelings and emotions.
No, the facts said that Obama repaired the economy, Trump blew it apart in 2020, and Biden repaired the economy very well.
 
No, the facts said that Obama repaired the economy, Trump blew it apart in 2020, and Biden repaired the economy very well.
Your feelings are not facts. I really don't know what else to say to you.
The actual numbers do not agree with your feelings based assessment.
 
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