YES, America CERTAINLY WAS FOUNDED as a CHRISTIAN NATION...

[JimBowie1958]

JimBowie has given no facts that support his skewed and screwed opinions.

He has failed as usual.

When Romney wins in the fall, the LDS president will know what to do with his kind: turn their asses out the back door into the alley.

ROFLMAO, lololol

So is that why several states had official state religions when the Declaration of Independence was signed?

Is that why the Founding Documents of US Legal Code all mention God and religion?

The FEDERAL government was banned from establishing a state church like most European nations had, such as England where the king was also the head of the Church of England. They wanted that ban so that the Federal government could not interfere with their own state religions.

That is why the federal government was kept secular, and nothing else for the most part as each state had a dominant if not formally state endorsed religion of some sort and ALL of them were various denominations of CHRISTIANITY.

Read the state constitutions. EVERY ONE OF THEM speaks from a Christian point of view.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JimBowie can cut and paste all he wants, and he will still continue to fail the discussion. None of his postings mean anything. All of our governments are secular, period.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

JimBowie has given no facts that support his skewed and screwed opinions.

He has failed as usual.

When Romney wins in the fall, the LDS president will know what to do with his kind: turn their asses out the back door into the alley.

Maybe when Romney wins (never happen unless they stop us from voting and they sure as hell are trying) he can preemptively baptize all of us into his mormon heaven...

Do we get any virgins in their heaven?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, only the true Mormons get the virgins.

JimBowie has given no facts that support his skewed and screwed opinions.

He has failed as usual.

When Romney wins in the fall, the LDS president will know what to do with his kind: turn their asses out the back door into the alley.

Maybe when Romney wins (never happen unless they stop us from voting and they sure as hell are trying) he can preemptively baptize all of us into his mormon heaven...

Do we get any virgins in their heaven?

 

[peach174]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

White rightwing Americans are the dumbest people on earth as to their own history, this is a known and proven fact.

They have no idea how or why this country was founded or by who, especially that the founders went out of their way to make sure religion was excluded from the government entirely, not the town square per se, you can stand in the town square and preach all day long about the invisible man in the sky that likes white americans but hates brown people in Iran, most people will think you are insane but you do have that right.

We have had Chaplains from the very beginning of our Nation, open prayer before the start of the House and Senate floor business.
Government was never suppose to support any one religion, but God was never to be excluded from the Government.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No one excludes religious value from political belief or action. Or secular ethics, for that matter, from political belief or action.

But organized religion and organized government are clear and separate.

America is the better for it.

And, besides, Peach, are you going to tell God to take a hike?

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

White rightwing Americans are the dumbest people on earth as to their own history, this is a known and proven fact.

They have no idea how or why this country was founded or by who, especially that the founders went out of their way to make sure religion was excluded from the government entirely, not the town square per se, you can stand in the town square and preach all day long about the invisible man in the sky that likes white americans but hates brown people in Iran, most people will think you are insane but you do have that right.

We have had Chaplains from the very beginning of our Nation, open prayer before the start of the House and Senate floor business.
Government was never suppose to support any one religion, but God was never to be excluded from the Government.

 

[logical4u]

Truly, you are asking this?

In the last 100 years, we repeatedly invaded nations in our own hemisphere in the pursuit of nationalism not justice.

There was no reason to wage war in Iraq at all.

Neo-conservatism has nearly turned America into a 3rd rate nation.

Well then if this is a Christian nation, why does the US rightwinged religious christians object to welfare so much and want to wage war?

Welfare does not target "widows and orphans". It allows the gov't to make a voting block that will vote according to political leaders, not what is best for the country.
Defending yourself is a "Christian/Judeo" principal, only in non-Christian societies are people punished for defending themselves. War is part of defense. Can you show where the USA has taken over another country (by right of a war victory) in the last one hundred years?

You did not answer the question. What country have we taken over as a result of military victory?

 

[logical4u]

JimBowie's allegations continue fail.

America is a secular government at the national and state levels.

So, you call this secular? I think that you might have to turn in your ACLU card.

Alabama 1901, Preamble. We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the
favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following
Constitution ..

Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to
those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land ..

Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to
Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

Arkansas 1874, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful
to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

California 1879, Preamble. We, the People of the State of California,
grateful to Almighty God for our freedom .

Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence
for the Supreme Ruler of Universe .

Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with
gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy ...

Delaware 1897, Preamble. Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature,
the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the
dictates
of
their consciences .

Florida 1845, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to
Almighty God for our constitutional liberty ... establish this
Constitution...

Georgia 1777, Preamble. We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection
and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

Hawaii 1959, Preamble. We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine
Guidance . establish this Constitution

Idaho 1889, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings ..

Illinois 1870, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful
to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath
so
long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors
.

Indiana 1851, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to
Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to chose our form of
government
..

Iowa 1857, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the
Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence
on Him for a continuation of these blessings ... establish this Constitution

Kansas 1859, Preamble. We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God
for our civil and religious privileges . establish this Constitution.

Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth of grateful to
Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

Louisiana 1921, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful
to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy ..

Maine 1820, Preamble. We the People of Maine .. acknowledging with grateful
hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us
an opportunity ... and imploring His aid and direction

Maryland 1776, Preamble. We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful
to Almighty God or our civil and religious liberty...

Massachusetts 1780, Preamble. We...the people of Massachusetts,
acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of
the
Universe...in the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly
imploring His
direction ...

Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful
to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom ... establish this Constitution

Minnesota, 1857, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Minnesota,
grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to
perpetuate
its
blessings

Mississippi 1890, Preamble. We, the people of Mississippi in convention
assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence
for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness ..
establish this Constitution ..

Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God
for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..

Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our
freedom .. establish this Constitution

Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom . establish this Constitution ..

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural
and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own
conscience .

New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey,
grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so
long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors
.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of liberty ..

New York 1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful
to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings .

North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina,
grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil,
political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon
Him for the continuance of those

North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our
common
..

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to
secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty ... establish this

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure
in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of
their consciences .

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble. We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly
invoking His guidance

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island
grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath
so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing

South Carolina, 1778, Preamble. We, the people of the State of South
Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this
Constitution

South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to
Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties . establish this

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible
right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their
conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging,
with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God

Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we
establish this Constitution .

Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to ... enable the
individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other
blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man ...

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI ... Religion, or the Duty which we owe
our Creator . can be directed only by Reason ... and that it is the mutual
duty
of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each
other
...

Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington,
grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain
this
Constitution .

West Virginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the
blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West
Virginia .. reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God .

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty
God for our freedom, domestic tranquility

Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to
God for our civil, political, and religious liberties ... establish this
Constitution .

Do you know if the district of Columbia mentions the Lord? It appears if you belong to a state, your state has acknowledged the Lord and credited Him with protection of said state.

 

[JimBowie1958]

JimBowie can cut and paste all he wants, and he will still continue to fail the discussion. None of his postings mean anything. All of our governments are secular, period.

Never said that our government is not secular. I said our nationis Christian, two different things entirely, Jake, though you obviously cant wrap your pea brain around it.

As to whether I fail the discussion, I dont think you have any authority to judge that except for your own self.

If the Founding Fathers were so anti-Christian and secular then why did they say these things?

http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm

George Washington
1st U.S. President

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

"The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite, and these Principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.

"Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, excerpt from a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

"The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever."
--Adams wrote this in a letter to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776.

Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."
--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

"I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

John Hancock
1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
--History of the United States of America, Vol. II, p. 229.

Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution

"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

"That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see;

"But I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and more observed; especially as I do not perceive, that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in his government of the world with any peculiar marks of his displeasure."
--Benjamin Franklin wrote this in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University on March 9, 1790.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Truly, you are asking this?

In the last 100 years, we repeatedly invaded nations in our own hemisphere in the pursuit of nationalism not justice.

There was no reason to wage war in Iraq at all.

Neo-conservatism has nearly turned America into a 3rd rate nation.

Welfare does not target "widows and orphans". It allows the gov't to make a voting block that will vote according to political leaders, not what is best for the country.
Defending yourself is a "Christian/Judeo" principal, only in non-Christian societies are people punished for defending themselves. War is part of defense. Can you show where the USA has taken over another country (by right of a war victory) in the last one hundred years?

You did not answer the question. What country have we taken over as a result of military victory?

Surely you dont expect Starkey to answer your questions.

That is for us little people in the fly over states.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No one excludes religious value from political belief or action. Or secular ethics, for that matter, from political belief or action.

But organized religion and organized government are clear and separate.

America is the better for it.

OMG! STARKEY HAS BEEN RIGHT THRICE IN ONE DAY!

He HAS BROKEN THE BROKEN CLOCK ACURACY BARRIER!
That is a real accomplishment for libtards like Starky.

Congrats.

So is that why several states had official state religions when the Declaration of Independence was signed?

Is that why the Founding Documents of US Legal Code all mention God and religion?

The FEDERAL government was banned from establishing a state church like most European nations had, such as England where

the king was also the head of the Church of England. They wanted that ban so that the Federal government could not

interfere with their own state religions.

That is why the federal government was kept secular, and nothing else for the most part as each state had a dominant if not

formally state endorsed religion of some sort and ALL of them were various denominations of CHRISTIANITY.

Read the state constitutions. EVERY ONE OF THEM speaks from a Christian point of view.

If the Founding Fathers were so anti-Christian and secular then why did they say these things?

Founding Fathers Quotes - Christian Quotes of the Founding Fathers

George Washington
1st U.S. President

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to

the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more

distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate

his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and

industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God

... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

"The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful

Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite, and these Principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in

my answer. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these

Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and

which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.

"Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and

immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature

and our terrestrial, mundane System."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, excerpt from a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

"The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will

be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of

Deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games,

sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward

forever."
--Adams wrote this in a letter to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776.

Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only

firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be

violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot

sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may

become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."
--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

"I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

John Hancock
1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper

sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
--History of the United States of America, Vol. II, p. 229.

Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution

"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought

to be worshipped.

"That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is

immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the

fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he

left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see;

"But I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England,

some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it

needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no

harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines

more respected and more observed; especially as I do not perceive, that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the

unbelievers in his government of the world with any peculiar marks of his displeasure."
--Benjamin Franklin wrote this in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University on March 9, 1790.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

White rightwing Americans are the dumbest people on earth as to their own history, this is a known and proven fact.

They have no idea how or why this country was founded or by who, especially that the founders went out of their way to make sure religion was excluded from the government entirely, not the town square per se, you can stand in the town square and preach all day long about the invisible man in the sky that likes white americans but hates brown people in Iran, most people will think you are insane but you do have that right.

We have had Chaplains from the very beginning of our Nation, open prayer before the start of the House and Senate floor business.
Government was never suppose to support any one religion, but God was never to be excluded from the Government.

Irrelevant since it runs contrary to the libtard talking points as approved by the American Jihad Commie Libtard Propaganda Council.

Don't expect mercy merely because you happen to be right, whatever that is worth.

/s

lol

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have answered all of your questions, JB, corrected you where necessary, which is most of the time, and you are still failing in discussion.

Truly, you are asking this?

In the last 100 years, we repeatedly invaded nations in our own hemisphere in the pursuit of nationalism not justice.

There was no reason to wage war in Iraq at all.

Neo-conservatism has nearly turned America into a 3rd rate nation.

You did not answer the question. What country have we taken over as a result of military victory?

Surely you dont expect Starkey to answer your questions.

That is for us little people in the fly over states.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JB has run away. Not surprising.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I have answered all of your questions, JB, corrected you where necessary, which is most of the time, and you are still failing in discussion.

Regurgitating your opinion and calling it fact doesnt prove anything, troll.

 

[JimBowie1958]

JB has run away. Not surprising.

Um, no, I have a real life and had to do somethings.

And you know what? I am going to do some more real life things with my wife and RL friends.

Dont hate me Starky, lol.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am glad that JimBowie, our concerned troll, has returned for further instruction and correction.

Ask away, son.

 

[logical4u]

I am glad that JimBowie, our concerned troll, has returned for further instruction and correction.

Ask away, son.

Still waiting for you to answer the question of which countries we have taken over (conquered, occupied, and assimilated), as a result of military action?.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

Several hundred Indian nations, Spanish Florida, Hispanic Texas and the Southwest, California, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, Midway, Philippines (until 1946), Japan (until 1955), Iraq and so forth.

We are a neo-con imperial power that can't learn.

And I am glad that you have returned for further instruction as well, logical4u.

I am glad that JimBowie, our concerned troll, has returned for further instruction and correction.

Ask away, son.

Still waiting for you to answer the question of which countries we have taken over (conquered, occupied, and assimilated), as a result of military action?.......

 

[JimBowie1958]

Several hundred Indian nations, Spanish Florida, Hispanic Texas and the Southwest, California, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, Midway, Philippines (until 1946), Japan (until 1955), Iraq and so forth.

We are a neo-con imperial power that can't learn.

And I am glad that you have returned for further instruction as well, logical4u.

I am glad that JimBowie, our concerned troll, has returned for further instruction and correction.

Ask away, son.

Still waiting for you to answer the question of which countries we have taken over (conquered, occupied, and assimilated), as a result of military action?.......

More BS.

1. None of those except for Japan, Hawai and Iraq were actual nations as recognised by the other nations of the time. The rest are territories, etc.

2. We had justified cause for going to war with Japan and Iraq and we let both go back to independence after a period of cooling off.

3. Hawai's conquest is about the most shameful incident in our nations history where we basically conquored another nation and never let it go.

Comparing that to the empires of Europe, Japan and the Manchus, we can stand pretty tall, IMO.

We not only learn we do and we teach how to play nice. After WW2 when the US ahd the most powerful military on the planet (to include our nuclear arsenal) we could have gone on a spree of conquest and did not.

This is why foreign powers that felt threatened by us did not try attacking us but engaged in subversion instead to try and weakeen us by recruiting weak minded fools and traitors to undermine our government and its policies from the inside.

Our Republic is far from perfect, but it is still the best on Earth. And we are going to buff it out even more over the next ten years.