Wow! 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths.......

When will Italy start using chloroquine for their coronavirus patients?

I mean....seriously

what are they waiting for????:dunno:

I just don't understand it.
Good question.
They'll be reconsidering having 30,000 Chinese migrant workers
in their garment factories from now on.


Absolutely!

Hope they learn their lessons....they wanted all their clothes to say Made in Italy.... instead to Made in China...so they brought in thousands of Chinese workers.

And that's where Italy is now...because of their stupidity ...they are in the midst of Hell.

Oh well...later rather than sooner ....they will understand (we hope)
As if Chinese people somehow uniquely carry the virus. You're a racist pig.


No!

YOU are a pig.
What's your evidence? I called you a racist pig based on your post about Chinese workers, who you implied brought the coronavirus into Italy, with no evidence whatsoever. That is plainly racism, and a racist by definition is a pig, therefore, you're a racist pig (at the risk of being redundant). So let's see YOUR evidence.

You are a loudmouth pig!

An ignorant pig!

Loser.... Yawn.
Yep, Brucie IS losing BIGLY on this thread. He MAY consider JUST GETTING OFF this thread, before he loses even more. Thank you.
Gee, bluzman, you really dislike everything I say! And I thought we were bonding over at that other comedian thread... Oh, well.

Bluzy can be a serious butthole ;)
 
By population comparison....Italy with a population of 60 million has lost 12,000 lives.
By an equivalent ratio, about 360,000 would have died in China.

...and I can not understand....I simply do not comprehend why aren't they using chloroquine. ?????????????

what are they waiting for?

to have all of Italy wiped out.

You don't understand much of anything. Some testing (a few brave guinea pigs) has to take place to determine proper dosages. Sheesh :rolleyes:
 
The worst case of abuse of the truth concerning this virus has been in Italy where over 88% of alleged deaths due to coronavirus were misattributed. In other words, 9 out of every 10 deaths in Italy stated as due to coronavirus are likely false. For more information about the Italian scam, see these links here, here, here, and here. If things continue as of late, the U.S. will be the next country to completely shut down, claiming death numbers that are also extremely misleading, and in fact could be outright lies.
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There is no "Italian scam". That's nonsense. Everyone was aware that the elderly were dying because of the complications to chronic diseases.

No scam.



There are two hotspots in the world for coronavirus infections: Wuhan, China (Hubei Province) and Italy. Both of these geographic areas were grappling with tuberculosis outbreaks prior to the eruption of the mutated COVID-19 coronavirus.


.
Approximately half of all TB cases were reported from four states.
In 2018, among U.S. states, the majority of TB cases continued to be reported from 4 states: California (23.2%), Texas (12.5%), New York (8.3%), and Florida (6.5%).

There is no information on 2019.


California and NY are under medical martial law, Florida and Texas have also reported numerous cases.
 
Approximately half of all TB cases were reported from four states.
In 2018, among U.S. states, the majority of TB cases continued to be reported from 4 states: California (23.2%), Texas (12.5%), New York (8.3%), and Florida (6.5%).

They constitute 1/3 of the U.S. population.
 
If you nuts think this thing is a hoax than take yourselves on a long vacation to NY city and have at it.

Nobody is saying it's a hoax, what many are saying though AND thinking is that the reaction to COVID-19 is a MASSIVE over reaction. Putting nearly ONE THIRD of the world into LOCKDOWN, ordering that businesses and schools and sports events and basically LIFE ITSELF outside of going to get food or medicine, this is UNHEARD of EVEN in an ACTUAL war time situation.

That mainly Leftists are DEMANDING this insane lockdown goes on for 3-6 months makes it more insane. How many peoples are going to be RUINED because of this, permanently ruined, MILLIONS. I bet when this eventually is all over that MORE peoples worldwide will have committed suicide and died of heart attacks when they realise they have been RUINED than will have died from anything to do with COVID-19.

You have basically ONE THIRD of the world under effectively House Arrest, it's beyond outrageous.
Fantastic post, Lucy. Thanks. I hope you and yours are doing well.
Hey, Lucy, go out and congregate! Ignore the warnings! I'm really starting to think that the coronavirus is a mechanism for weeding out the really stupid people.

What are you doing exactly? For the past month I have been assigned to our COVID-19 Task Force, in my position in our Ministry of Interior I was put on this new COVID-19 Task Force to work in conjunction with our Ministry of Health. We have worked on our lockdown measures, we have worked shutting down ALL flights from our neighbouring nations and China, South Korea, Iran the UK, France and others. We have been conducting 20.000 tests, we now have the ability to test 100.000-200.000 peoples a week. We put our measures into place from basically day one, well ahead of ANYTHING America or the stupid British have done.

Because of ALL the peoples I have to deal with that now include our Health Workers, I have been already in self-isolation because I got a dry cough. I then had a test and tested Negative. During my time of self-isolation I was working from home, I was set up with a Ministry laptop with everything I needed on it and it was delivered to me via someone in a hazmat suit.

Last night because I do not trust China, I secured MILLIONS of new protective masks for our Health Workers, I bought them from a nation that is NOT China using our Ministry of Interior COVID-19 Emergency Fund that we set up weeks ago. As we have many of our peoples in other nations either working or just travelling, we have set up special Chartered Flights to get them home, one of these flights I have had diverted so they can take on board the new protective masks I bought and we will get these masks later today and they will be distributed to more of our Health Workers.

So I don't need morons like YOU telling me about COVID-19 or WHAT to do OR WHAT NOT to do. While you are probably sitting in your basement posting increasingly stupid things I have been and ARE working 18 hour days in my duty to assist in protecting our nation and our peoples, and this includes now working Saturday AND Sunday.

Notice I am literally on the Front Lines assisting fighting COVID-19 and the Troll Dr. Love thinks this is funny, what low common denominators Leftists are.

Dr. Love is probably sitting in his basement dribbling over himself, while peoples like ME through our sense of PUBLIC DUTY are literally on the Front Lines doing our best to protect peoples and also I add doing our best to calm all the hysteria because the general hysteria is NOT helping and in cases is making our job more difficult.

BTW I have just coordinated another FREE delivery of Food and Essentials Care Packages that we are providing every week to our most vulnerable peoples, I have just sent out the message to deliver more than 400,000 of these packages, they will arrive to these peoples between 6PM-8PM tonight. We have more than 600,000 peoples, both ordinary peoples and our Military Reserve delivering these things. I add that I am myself in our Military Reserve.

What are the Leftist Trolls doing? ZERO, only posting Cheerleading posts on forums supporting China and the Chinese, Cheerleading for more draconian measures that will CRASH the Western Economy and calling EVERYONE a racist who does NOT lick the filthy Chinese buttocks. Total sewer filth, they should ALL fuck off and go to China considering their love-in with the Chinese.
 
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The worst case of abuse of the truth concerning this virus has been in Italy where over 88% of alleged deaths due to coronavirus were misattributed. In other words, 9 out of every 10 deaths in Italy stated as due to coronavirus are likely false. For more information about the Italian scam, see these links here, here, here, and here. If things continue as of late, the U.S. will be the next country to completely shut down, claiming death numbers that are also extremely misleading, and in fact could be outright lies.
I haven’t heard of Lee Rockwell before this but his articles keep popping up.

This guy does not know what he’s talking about.
 
The worst case of abuse of the truth concerning this virus has been in Italy where over 88% of alleged deaths due to coronavirus were misattributed. In other words, 9 out of every 10 deaths in Italy stated as due to coronavirus are likely false. For more information about the Italian scam, see these links here, here, here, and here. If things continue as of late, the U.S. will be the next country to completely shut down, claiming death numbers that are also extremely misleading, and in fact could be outright lies.
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There is no "Italian scam". That's nonsense. Everyone was aware that the elderly were dying because of the complications to chronic diseases.

No scam.



There are two hotspots in the world for coronavirus infections: Wuhan, China (Hubei Province) and Italy. Both of these geographic areas were grappling with tuberculosis outbreaks prior to the eruption of the mutated COVID-19 coronavirus.


.
Approximately half of all TB cases were reported from four states.
In 2018, among U.S. states, the majority of TB cases continued to be reported from 4 states: California (23.2%), Texas (12.5%), New York (8.3%), and Florida (6.5%).

There is no information on 2019.


California and NY are under medical martial law, Florida and Texas have also reported numerous cases.
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Oh, good. Then we can just stand down and not worry about the pandemic. Thanks man!
You can cower in fear if you like.

You should go lick the nearest playground equipment, escalator handrail or sneeze guard just to prove what a badass ya are! :D

That's the plan. I just didn't realize that COVID was no big deal. The damned media - always trying to trick us. :mad:
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Oh, good. Then we can just stand down and not worry about the pandemic. Thanks man!
You can cower in fear if you like.

You should go lick the nearest playground equipment, escalator handrail or sneeze guard just to prove what a badass ya are! :D

That's the plan. I just didn't realize that COVID was no big deal. The damned media - always trying to trick us. :mad:

Hey, I betcha all those poor NYC souls in body bags and packed into ginormous refrigerated trucks who tested positive for COVID are ACTUALLY dying of old age, a cold, or the flu! :cool:
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Oh, good. Then we can just stand down and not worry about the pandemic. Thanks man!
You can cower in fear if you like.

You should go lick the nearest playground equipment, escalator handrail or sneeze guard just to prove what a badass ya are! :D

That's the plan. I just didn't realize that COVID was no big deal. The damned media - always trying to trick us. :mad:

Hey, I betcha all those poor NYC souls in body bags and packed into ginormous refrigerated trucks who tested positive for COVID are ACTUALLY dying of old age, a cold, or the flu! :cool:

Duh. And I bet they only died just to make Trump look bad. Talk about TDS!
 
No Surprise , the government does that to stress their panic points.
In a hurricane if a person dies in a traffic accident in a rainstorm associated with a hurricane .. they count that as a hurricane death. The higher the death toll the better the government likes it
 
The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.
the reprehensible left propagates their own bullshit on any given subject,including this one.....

The reprehensible Blanket Generalization Fallacy negates both of them.
tell that to jones.....he only sees one side....

I just told it to both of you. My work is done.
 
The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.
the reprehensible left propagates their own bullshit on any given subject,including this one.....

The reprehensible Blanket Generalization Fallacy negates both of them.
tell that to jones.....he only sees one side....

I just told it to both of you. My work is done.
well then it was a failure,i already knew and jones is to stupid to defend anything he says.....
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19
Lets talk about this in December shall we?

Even Donald Trump has gone from saying that we only had 15 cases and would soon not have any to patting himself on the back for predicting only 100,000 to 200,000 Americans are likely to die from Coronavirus this year.

This year's flu season is shaping up to be possibly less severe than the 2017-2018 season, when 61,000 deaths were linked to the virus. However, it could equal or surpass the 2018-2019 season's 34,200 flu-related deaths.


Something to think about- social distancing will help slow down influenza also.
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.
70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.
70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.

Yes but 70 years ago because of Polio ONE THIRD of the WORLD was not shut down, ONE THIRD of the WORLD's businesses were not put also into lockdown. Peoples were NOT ordered to stay at home and ONLY go out for food or medicine or risk arrest. The ENTIRE Western Economy was NOT about to be sacrificed because a TINY MINORITY got Polio etc

So there is ZERO comparison between NOW and 70 years ago. Your Straw Man is a failure.
 

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