Wow! 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths.......

[Syriusly]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

Never mind the disturbing hyperbole we are hearing from the media, never mind the frightening predictions and projections we keep hearing, never mind the scary assessment by the Trump White House that 200,000 Americans will die of the coronavirus before all this is over, what is the bottom line?

The bottom line is 3,807 older Americans with preexisting health issues have died in the past three months within a population of 327 million.

The bottom line is, that fact is uniquely unremarkable.

During the press conference today, Dr. Deborah Birx presented a rather startling graph. It is unavailable on the internet. It showed that New York state and New Jersey, which is connected to the N.Y. city metro area, are anomalies. The rest of the states, all 48 of them, appear to have Covid-19 under control.

This link confirms that fact. United States Coronavirus: 187,347 Cases and 3,860 Deaths - Worldometer

Please go to the graph showing the states. The number of cases is secondary to the fatality rate of this virus. The common cold is, well, common. Look at the number of deaths. Again, that is a three month total, and, again, considering the fact that we are talking about the sick and the elderly, the figures are quite ordinary, perhaps even low.

Trump's medical experts finally confirmed something else I have been saying all along. The Trump White still refuses to give us an age breakdown of the deceased, but Dr. Birx told us that, while the young do get infected, they recover. She said that the mortality rate "increases with age and preexisting medical conditions."

That is the closest the Trump White House will get to providing the age and condition of those who succumb to this new common cold virus. Why is that?

Take away New York City, Detroit, and New Orleans and the media wouldn't have much to talk about.

That is like saying a month ago 'take away Italy' and the media wouldn't have much to talk about- because the United States had virtually no cases then.

I am not sure about why you want to blame the media for actually quoting medical experts and the White House.

I am not sure why you think we should be less concerned because old people and those with preexisting medical conditions are more likely to die. How many of you are willing to risk your parents or grandparents or kids with severe asthma just so you can go out to bars again?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

If you nuts think this thing is a hoax than take yourselves on a long vacation to NY city and have at it.

Nobody is saying it's a hoax, what many are saying though AND thinking is that the reaction to COVID-19 is a MASSIVE over reaction. Putting nearly ONE THIRD of the world into LOCKDOWN, ordering that businesses and schools and sports events and basically LIFE ITSELF outside of going to get food or medicine, this is UNHEARD of EVEN in an ACTUAL war time situation.

That mainly Leftists are DEMANDING this insane lockdown goes on for 3-6 months makes it more insane. How many peoples are going to be RUINED because of this, permanently ruined, MILLIONS. I bet when this eventually is all over that MORE peoples worldwide will have committed suicide and died of heart attacks when they realise they have been RUINED than will have died from anything to do with COVID-19.

You have basically ONE THIRD of the world under effectively House Arrest, it's beyond outrageous.

Fantastic post, Lucy. Thanks. I hope you and yours are doing well.

Hey, Lucy, go out and congregate! Ignore the warnings! I'm really starting to think that the coronavirus is a mechanism for weeding out the really stupid people.

What are you doing exactly? For the past month I have been assigned to our COVID-19 Task Force, in my position in our Ministry of Interior I was put on this new COVID-19 Task Force to work in conjunction with our Ministry of Health. We have worked on our lockdown measures, we have worked shutting down ALL flights from our neighbouring nations and China, South Korea, Iran the UK, France and others. We have been conducting 20.000 tests, we now have the ability to test 100.000-200.000 peoples a week. We put our measures into place from basically day one, well ahead of ANYTHING America or the stupid British have done.

Because of ALL the peoples I have to deal with that now include our Health Workers, I have been already in self-isolation because I got a dry cough. I then had a test and tested Negative. During my time of self-isolation I was working from home, I was set up with a Ministry laptop with everything I needed on it and it was delivered to me via someone in a hazmat suit.

Last night because I do not trust China, I secured MILLIONS of new protective masks for our Health Workers, I bought them from a nation that is NOT China using our Ministry of Interior COVID-19 Emergency Fund that we set up weeks ago. As we have many of our peoples in other nations either working or just travelling, we have set up special Chartered Flights to get them home, one of these flights I have had diverted so they can take on board the new protective masks I bought and we will get these masks later today and they will be distributed to more of our Health Workers.

So I don't need morons like YOU telling me about COVID-19 or WHAT to do OR WHAT NOT to do. While you are probably sitting in your basement posting increasingly stupid things I have been and ARE working 18 hour days in my duty to assist in protecting our nation and our peoples, and this includes now working Saturday AND Sunday.

Notice I am literally on the Front Lines assisting fighting COVID-19 and the Troll Dr. Love thinks this is funny, what low common denominators Leftists are.

Dr. Love is probably sitting in his basement dribbling over himself, while peoples like ME through our sense of PUBLIC DUTY are literally on the Front Lines doing our best to protect peoples and also I add doing our best to calm all the hysteria because the general hysteria is NOT helping and in cases is making our job more difficult.

BTW I have just coordinated another FREE delivery of Food and Essentials Care Packages that we are providing every week to our most vulnerable peoples, I have just sent out the message to deliver more than 400,000 of these packages, they will arrive to these peoples between 6PM-8PM tonight. We have more than 600,000 peoples, both ordinary peoples and our Military Reserve delivering these things. I add that I am myself in our Military Reserve.

What are the Leftist Trolls doing? ZERO, only posting Cheerleading posts on forums supporting China and the Chinese, Cheerleading for more draconian measures that will CRASH the Western Economy and calling EVERYONE a racist who does NOT lick the filthy Chinese buttocks. Total sewer filth, they should ALL fuck off and go to China considering their love-in with the Chinese.

Thank you for your efforts during a really challenging time.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.

And that is only because their hero fucked up the response.

If Trump had brains and balls, he'd have insisted that we all stay home for two weeks back in early March. If he had done that, every one of
these weirdo's would be standing with him without question.

Meanwhile, Dems.....who trust the science.....would have gone along with it.

He fucked up because he's a coward and he's stupid.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.

The board dick just ejaculated.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.

And that is only because their hero fucked up the response.

If Trump had brains and balls, he'd have insisted that we all stay home for two weeks back in early March. If he had done that, every one of
these weirdo's would be standing with him without question.

Meanwhile, Dems.....who trust the science.....would have gone along with it.

He fucked up because he's a coward and he's stupid.

TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TTTTTRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

If you nuts think this thing is a hoax than take yourselves on a long vacation to NY city and have at it.

Nobody is saying it's a hoax, what many are saying though AND thinking is that the reaction to COVID-19 is a MASSIVE over reaction. Putting nearly ONE THIRD of the world into LOCKDOWN, ordering that businesses and schools and sports events and basically LIFE ITSELF outside of going to get food or medicine, this is UNHEARD of EVEN in an ACTUAL war time situation.

That mainly Leftists are DEMANDING this insane lockdown goes on for 3-6 months makes it more insane. How many peoples are going to be RUINED because of this, permanently ruined, MILLIONS. I bet when this eventually is all over that MORE peoples worldwide will have committed suicide and died of heart attacks when they realise they have been RUINED than will have died from anything to do with COVID-19.

You have basically ONE THIRD of the world under effectively House Arrest, it's beyond outrageous.

Fantastic post, Lucy. Thanks. I hope you and yours are doing well.

Hey, Lucy, go out and congregate! Ignore the warnings! I'm really starting to think that the coronavirus is a mechanism for weeding out the really stupid people.

What are you doing exactly? For the past month I have been assigned to our COVID-19 Task Force, in my position in our Ministry of Interior I was put on this new COVID-19 Task Force to work in conjunction with our Ministry of Health. We have worked on our lockdown measures, we have worked shutting down ALL flights from our neighbouring nations and China, South Korea, Iran the UK, France and others. We have been conducting 20.000 tests, we now have the ability to test 100.000-200.000 peoples a week. We put our measures into place from basically day one, well ahead of ANYTHING America or the stupid British have done.

Because of ALL the peoples I have to deal with that now include our Health Workers, I have been already in self-isolation because I got a dry cough. I then had a test and tested Negative. During my time of self-isolation I was working from home, I was set up with a Ministry laptop with everything I needed on it and it was delivered to me via someone in a hazmat suit.

Last night because I do not trust China, I secured MILLIONS of new protective masks for our Health Workers, I bought them from a nation that is NOT China using our Ministry of Interior COVID-19 Emergency Fund that we set up weeks ago. As we have many of our peoples in other nations either working or just travelling, we have set up special Chartered Flights to get them home, one of these flights I have had diverted so they can take on board the new protective masks I bought and we will get these masks later today and they will be distributed to more of our Health Workers.

So I don't need morons like YOU telling me about COVID-19 or WHAT to do OR WHAT NOT to do. While you are probably sitting in your basement posting increasingly stupid things I have been and ARE working 18 hour days in my duty to assist in protecting our nation and our peoples, and this includes now working Saturday AND Sunday.

Notice I am literally on the Front Lines assisting fighting COVID-19 and the Troll Dr. Love thinks this is funny, what low common denominators Leftists are.

Dr. Love is probably sitting in his basement dribbling over himself, while peoples like ME through our sense of PUBLIC DUTY are literally on the Front Lines doing our best to protect peoples and also I add doing our best to calm all the hysteria because the general hysteria is NOT helping and in cases is making our job more difficult.

BTW I have just coordinated another FREE delivery of Food and Essentials Care Packages that we are providing every week to our most vulnerable peoples, I have just sent out the message to deliver more than 400,000 of these packages, they will arrive to these peoples between 6PM-8PM tonight. We have more than 600,000 peoples, both ordinary peoples and our Military Reserve delivering these things. I add that I am myself in our Military Reserve.

What are the Leftist Trolls doing? ZERO, only posting Cheerleading posts on forums supporting China and the Chinese, Cheerleading for more draconian measures that will CRASH the Western Economy and calling EVERYONE a racist who does NOT lick the filthy Chinese buttocks. Total sewer filth, they should ALL fuck off and go to China considering their love-in with the Chinese.

Thank you for your efforts during a really challenging time.

Thank you, I am happy to do my duty to the best of my ability.

 

[Syriusly]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.

70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.

Yes but 70 years ago because of Polio ONE THIRD of the WORLD was not shut down, ONE THIRD of the WORLD's businesses were not put also into lockdown. Peoples were NOT ordered to stay at home and ONLY go out for food or medicine or risk arrest. The ENTIRE Western Economy was NOT about to be sacrificed because a TINY MINORITY got Polio etc

So there is ZERO comparison between NOW and 70 years ago. Your Straw Man is a failure.

You are right- Coronavirus is on track to kill far more Americans than Polio was killing each year.

 

[Pogo]

If you nuts think this thing is a hoax than take yourselves on a long vacation to NY city and have at it.

Nobody is saying it's a hoax, what many are saying though AND thinking is that the reaction to COVID-19 is a MASSIVE over reaction. Putting nearly ONE THIRD of the world into LOCKDOWN, ordering that businesses and schools and sports events and basically LIFE ITSELF outside of going to get food or medicine, this is UNHEARD of EVEN in an ACTUAL war time situation.

That mainly Leftists are DEMANDING this insane lockdown goes on for 3-6 months makes it more insane. How many peoples are going to be RUINED because of this, permanently ruined, MILLIONS. I bet when this eventually is all over that MORE peoples worldwide will have committed suicide and died of heart attacks when they realise they have been RUINED than will have died from anything to do with COVID-19.

You have basically ONE THIRD of the world under effectively House Arrest, it's beyond outrageous.

Fantastic post, Lucy. Thanks. I hope you and yours are doing well.

Hey, Lucy, go out and congregate! Ignore the warnings! I'm really starting to think that the coronavirus is a mechanism for weeding out the really stupid people.

What are you doing exactly? For the past month I have been assigned to our COVID-19 Task Force, in my position in our Ministry of Interior I was put on this new COVID-19 Task Force to work in conjunction with our Ministry of Health. We have worked on our lockdown measures, we have worked shutting down ALL flights from our neighbouring nations and China, South Korea, Iran the UK, France and others. We have been conducting 20.000 tests, we now have the ability to test 100.000-200.000 peoples a week. We put our measures into place from basically day one, well ahead of ANYTHING America or the stupid British have done.

Because of ALL the peoples I have to deal with that now include our Health Workers, I have been already in self-isolation because I got a dry cough. I then had a test and tested Negative. During my time of self-isolation I was working from home, I was set up with a Ministry laptop with everything I needed on it and it was delivered to me via someone in a hazmat suit.

Last night because I do not trust China, I secured MILLIONS of new protective masks for our Health Workers, I bought them from a nation that is NOT China using our Ministry of Interior COVID-19 Emergency Fund that we set up weeks ago. As we have many of our peoples in other nations either working or just travelling, we have set up special Chartered Flights to get them home, one of these flights I have had diverted so they can take on board the new protective masks I bought and we will get these masks later today and they will be distributed to more of our Health Workers.

So I don't need morons like YOU telling me about COVID-19 or WHAT to do OR WHAT NOT to do. While you are probably sitting in your basement posting increasingly stupid things I have been and ARE working 18 hour days in my duty to assist in protecting our nation and our peoples, and this includes now working Saturday AND Sunday.

Notice I am literally on the Front Lines assisting fighting COVID-19 and the Troll Dr. Love thinks this is funny, what low common denominators Leftists are.

Dr. Love is probably sitting in his basement dribbling over himself, while peoples like ME through our sense of PUBLIC DUTY are literally on the Front Lines doing our best to protect peoples and also I add doing our best to calm all the hysteria because the general hysteria is NOT helping and in cases is making our job more difficult.

BTW I have just coordinated another FREE delivery of Food and Essentials Care Packages that we are providing every week to our most vulnerable peoples, I have just sent out the message to deliver more than 400,000 of these packages, they will arrive to these peoples between 6PM-8PM tonight. We have more than 600,000 peoples, both ordinary peoples and our Military Reserve delivering these things. I add that I am myself in our Military Reserve.

What are the Leftist Trolls doing? ZERO, only posting Cheerleading posts on forums supporting China and the Chinese, Cheerleading for more draconian measures that will CRASH the Western Economy and calling EVERYONE a racist who does NOT lick the filthy Chinese buttocks. Total sewer filth, they should ALL fuck off and go to China considering their love-in with the Chinese.

Thank you for your efforts during a really challenging time.

Thank you, I am happy to do my duty to the best of my ability.

And in that you are a saint. Stay strong, be well and be careful.
Also, it's good to see you here in the new format, flawed as it is.

 

[Pogo]

The reprehensible right will propagate any lie in an effort to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.

And that is only because their hero fucked up the response.

If Trump had brains and balls, he'd have insisted that we all stay home for two weeks back in early March. If he had done that, every one of
these weirdo's would be standing with him without question.

Meanwhile, Dems.....who trust the science.....would have gone along with it.

He fucked up because he's a coward and he's stupid.

TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TTTTTRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should get that cough looked at. Does not sound good.

 

[colfax_m]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

I wouldn't doubt if many of the US deaths being misdiagnosed as coronavius, could be influenza. Shit like that happens when panic is rampant.

Doubt it. Concomitant infection is not terribly common and our standard practice has us testing both simultaneously.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.

70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.

Yes but 70 years ago because of Polio ONE THIRD of the WORLD was not shut down, ONE THIRD of the WORLD's businesses were not put also into lockdown. Peoples were NOT ordered to stay at home and ONLY go out for food or medicine or risk arrest. The ENTIRE Western Economy was NOT about to be sacrificed because a TINY MINORITY got Polio etc

So there is ZERO comparison between NOW and 70 years ago. Your Straw Man is a failure.

You are right- Coronavirus is on track to kill far more Americans than Polio was killing each year.

Don't be hysterical, we already know that the regular flu kills more peoples every year and yet we do not lockdown one third of the world because of that. Personally the blame for all the hysteria is ALL at the feet of the World MSM, this is why everyone has had EVERYTHING from irrational Panic Buying to Heathcare Phonelines being SWAMPED with hysterical morons DEMANDING COVID-19 tests when they had sneezed four times in four minutes. This is NOT helping, peoples like me on the Front Lines we NEED EVERYONE to remain CALM, the MSM are not only a public menace they are becoming a public danger during these exceptionally difficult times.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.

70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.

Yes but 70 years ago because of Polio ONE THIRD of the WORLD was not shut down, ONE THIRD of the WORLD's businesses were not put also into lockdown. Peoples were NOT ordered to stay at home and ONLY go out for food or medicine or risk arrest. The ENTIRE Western Economy was NOT about to be sacrificed because a TINY MINORITY got Polio etc

So there is ZERO comparison between NOW and 70 years ago. Your Straw Man is a failure.

You are right- Coronavirus is on track to kill far more Americans than Polio was killing each year.

Don't be hysterical, we already know that the regular flu kills more peoples every year and yet we do not lockdown one third of the world because of that. Personally the blame for all the hysteria is ALL at the feet of the World MSM, this is why everyone has had EVERYTHING from irrational Panic Buying to Heathcare Phonelines being SWAMPED with hysterical morons DEMANDING COVID-19 tests when they had sneezed four times in four minutes. This is NOT helping, peoples like me on the Front Lines we NEED EVERYONE to remain CALM, the MSM are not only a public menace they are becoming a public danger during these exceptionally difficult times.

What front line are you on?

 

[keepitreal]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

In 2017, an average of 7,708 deaths occurred each day. January, February, and December were the months with the highest average daily number of deaths (8,478, 8,351, and 8,344, respectively). June, July, and August were the months with the lowest average daily number of deaths (7,298, 7,157, and 7,158, respectively).

QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths,* by Month
— United States, 2017

 

[Faun]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.

No, there isn't a fire. There is a new virus that is killing old, sick people with existing diseases. The seasonal flu will kill way more people this year than Covid19

There was NOT this over reaction to SARS which was also a Coronavirus.

Usually every five minutes Leftists are screaming about Muh Civil Liberties, notice during this locking down of ONE THIRD of the world the Leftists are NOT screaming NOW about Muh Civil Liberties. They are EMBRACING the mass loss of freedom, INCLUDING their OWN which illustrates that Leftism is a mental illness.

That this COVID-19 thing is being used as an EXCUSE to DENY the most BASIC of Civil Liberties and that peoples are effectively under House Arrest and are only allowed to go out for food or medicine and then on ORDER they must return to their prison or else risk being ARRESTED for violation of the lockdown.

No Leftists instead of screaming about the trashing of the most basic Civil Liberties they are doing the opposite and are demanding that the lockdown is made even MORE extreme.

This just illustrates that Leftists WANT to live in a combination of "1984" and "Brave New World" that the future Leftists WANT is a Totalitarian State....and they CALL Rightists the Fascists! Well WHO is DEMANDING what is basically Fascism now? Yes the Leftists, it's only Rightists who are concerned about this disturbing situation that ONE THIRD of the world is now EXISTING under because of the hysterical over reaction to the COVID-19 situation.

We knew already that THIS is the TYPE of world Leftists lust after, we knew this already from other things they have supported and support like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to Freedom of Expression, like TRASHING the HUMAN RIGHT to have even an OPINION that differs from THEIR OPINION etc.

We knew what the Slippery Slope to Totalitarian was and well here it is, ALL they have to do is use something like the hysteria about COVID-19 to shut DOWN ONE THIRD of the world, to SHUT DOWN businesses without ANY thought of the catastrophic economic damage this is going to do to nations and peoples.

70 years ago Lucy and her fellow travellers were saying this about Polio and the polio vaccine.

Yes but 70 years ago because of Polio ONE THIRD of the WORLD was not shut down, ONE THIRD of the WORLD's businesses were not put also into lockdown. Peoples were NOT ordered to stay at home and ONLY go out for food or medicine or risk arrest. The ENTIRE Western Economy was NOT about to be sacrificed because a TINY MINORITY got Polio etc

So there is ZERO comparison between NOW and 70 years ago. Your Straw Man is a failure.

That's because Polio, unlike COVID-19, is not an airborne disease. It's spread by fecal matter containing the virus. Back then, a method employed to reduce the spread was to close beaches and pools since it was believed contaminated fecal matter could get into water. Today, a method employed to reduce the spread of COVID-19 is to put some distance between people.

 

[KissMy]

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”

This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Oh, good. Then we can just stand down and not worry about the pandemic. Thanks man!

You can cower in fear if you like.

Post a video of you licking NYC subway handrails, or are afraid ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well,

The CuomoVirus is still working it's sad magic up in the NorthEast.

New York and New Jersey have 10,500 new cases.

Deaths from NY and NY right now are at 60%.

 

[Andylusion]

Weird that almost all conservatives are racists that believe everything is a conspiracy. Must be something in the geritol.

Um... I'm as conservative as you can get. Not racist. Don't believe it's a conspiracy.

I think part of the problem, is that the left-wing is utterly immoral and lies constantly. In fact, you saying that conservatives are racists, is part of that whole immoral standard those on the left have, without any integrity.

And of course the examples are endless. For every one troll you find on here, who spouts off racists nonsense, not because he's conservative, but rather because.... he's a troll.... for every one example of him, there are a dozen examples where the left is just flat out intentionally evil.

Jessie Smollett, Bret Kavanough, Convington Kids, Russia-Trump, and on and on.

Even just recently...



So on the one hand you have left-wingers screaming that Trump isn't doing enough, that he's isn't helping the shortage of medical supplies, and conservatives are terrible and not helping.

So here Trump sends out a call to help, and a Christian conservative, converts more than 3/4ths of his entire manufacturing to make masks, for which there is a critical shortage...

And what does the evil immoral left do?

"Trump is terrible for having this guy at a press conference, and this is terrible!"

What are we to conclude from this?

The left-wing is full of lies, and evil. So when you decry that people tend to not believe the media, when the media is full of endless left-wing liars that never tell the truth, and can't even be decent enough to applaud a guy for converting his company over to making masks during a mask shortage....

Honestly, the blame is on the lying left-wing. They have conclusively proven themselves untrustworthy for 10 years or more. Now you are whining people don't believe? Whose fault is that?

This is why you should tell the truth, and when people do good things, you should applaud them, instead of decrying them. It makes them evil and immoral, and that's on them, when no one believes them when they talk.

 

[Contumacious]

The worst case of abuse of the truth concerning this virus has been in Italy where over 88% of alleged deaths due to coronavirus were misattributed. In other words, 9 out of every 10 deaths in Italy stated as due to coronavirus are likely false. For more information about the Italian scam, see these links here, here, here, and here. If things continue as of late, the U.S. will be the next country to completely shut down, claiming death numbers that are also extremely misleading, and in fact could be outright lies.

I haven’t heard of Lee Rockwell before this but his articles keep popping up.

This guy does not know what he’s talking about.

The Parasitic/Socialist Axis always protecting their scam

 

[LoneLaugher]

Weird that almost all conservatives are racists that believe everything is a conspiracy. Must be something in the geritol.

Um... I'm as conservative as you can get. Not racist. Don't believe it's a conspiracy.

I think part of the problem, is that the left-wing is utterly immoral and lies constantly. In fact, you saying that conservatives are racists, is part of that whole immoral standard those on the left have, without any integrity.

And of course the examples are endless. For every one troll you find on here, who spouts off racists nonsense, not because he's conservative, but rather because.... he's a troll.... for every one example of him, there are a dozen examples where the left is just flat out intentionally evil.

Jessie Smollett, Bret Kavanough, Convington Kids, Russia-Trump, and on and on.

Even just recently...



So on the one hand you have left-wingers screaming that Trump isn't doing enough, that he's isn't helping the shortage of medical supplies, and conservatives are terrible and not helping.

So here Trump sends out a call to help, and a Christian conservative, converts more than 3/4ths of his entire manufacturing to make masks, for which there is a critical shortage...

And what does the evil immoral left do?

"Trump is terrible for having this guy at a press conference, and this is terrible!"

What are we to conclude from this?

The left-wing is full of lies, and evil. So when you decry that people tend to not believe the media, when the media is full of endless left-wing liars that never tell the truth, and can't even be decent enough to applaud a guy for converting his company over to making masks during a mask shortage....

Honestly, the blame is on the lying left-wing. They have conclusively proven themselves untrustworthy for 10 years or more. Now you are whining people don't believe? Whose fault is that?

This is why you should tell the truth, and when people do good things, you should applaud them, instead of decrying them. It makes them evil and immoral, and that's on them, when no one believes them when they talk.

Damn. You can whine with the best of em’.

 

[Andylusion]

Weird that almost all conservatives are racists that believe everything is a conspiracy. Must be something in the geritol.

Um... I'm as conservative as you can get. Not racist. Don't believe it's a conspiracy.

I think part of the problem, is that the left-wing is utterly immoral and lies constantly. In fact, you saying that conservatives are racists, is part of that whole immoral standard those on the left have, without any integrity.

And of course the examples are endless. For every one troll you find on here, who spouts off racists nonsense, not because he's conservative, but rather because.... he's a troll.... for every one example of him, there are a dozen examples where the left is just flat out intentionally evil.

Jessie Smollett, Bret Kavanough, Convington Kids, Russia-Trump, and on and on.

Even just recently...



So on the one hand you have left-wingers screaming that Trump isn't doing enough, that he's isn't helping the shortage of medical supplies, and conservatives are terrible and not helping.

So here Trump sends out a call to help, and a Christian conservative, converts more than 3/4ths of his entire manufacturing to make masks, for which there is a critical shortage...

And what does the evil immoral left do?

"Trump is terrible for having this guy at a press conference, and this is terrible!"

What are we to conclude from this?

The left-wing is full of lies, and evil. So when you decry that people tend to not believe the media, when the media is full of endless left-wing liars that never tell the truth, and can't even be decent enough to applaud a guy for converting his company over to making masks during a mask shortage....

Honestly, the blame is on the lying left-wing. They have conclusively proven themselves untrustworthy for 10 years or more. Now you are whining people don't believe? Whose fault is that?

This is why you should tell the truth, and when people do good things, you should applaud them, instead of decrying them. It makes them evil and immoral, and that's on them, when no one believes them when they talk.

Damn. You can whine with the best of em’.

If speaking truth, is whining... then yes. If speaking truth, is whining, I wish more people on the left would whine a lot more, instead of lying constantly.