Would You Support War With Iran?

[paulitician]

Stop demonizing Iran, let Russia continue to monitor their program, and keep tyring to get UN inspectors in there.

Did N. Korea do anything ? maybe they needed them to calm down. I don't believe anyone but terrorists are crazy enough to use nukes. Keep after them and trying to calm other governments. Vote Dem for intelligence. Dupes, remain calm and change the channel.

Yeah i'm pretty sure you'll change your tune entirely when or if your Dear Leader decides to go to War with Iran. You were a big ole cheerleader dunce when he went to War with Libya. You don't stand for anything. You just worship your Dear Leader. It really is that simple.

 

[Vast LWC]

You're a ******* scumbag with your lies, you should be dragged by your skull through the streets.

We went into Beruit to stop their civil war and protect the innocent caught in the middle. Reagan should've wiped LH and Iran off the face of the Earth for their attack on the Marines.

Well there's an asshole answer.

Did we, or did we not, provide weapons and support to Iraq, so that they could invade Iran?

Did Reagan not appoint Donald Rumsfeld as a special adviser to Iraq and then have him give Iraq the go ahead on the invasion?

Did Dow Chemical not provide the 1.5 million tons of "insecticide" used to create the chemical weapons that Iraq used on Iran during the Iran/Iraq war, with the full knowledge of what it would be used for?

What part of that is false? Please "enlighten" me.

We fully supported the Iraeli 1982 invasion of Lebanon, and the attack in Beirut was on a military target that was in reaction to the Sixth Fleet bombarding civilian targets in the Shuf Mountains.

From the Wiki:

Col. Timothy J. Geraghty, the commander of the Marines in Beirut during the incident, has said that:

"the Marine and the French headquarters were targeted primarily because of who we were and what we represented;" and that,

"It is noteworthy that the United States provided direct naval gunfire support -- which I strongly opposed for a week -- to the Lebanese Army at a mountain village called Suq-al-Garb on September 19 and that the French conducted an air strike on September 23 in the Bekaa Valley. American support removed any lingering doubts of our neutrality, and I stated to my staff at the time that we were going to pay in blood for this decision.

So, to summarize:

Your hero Reagan had us take sides in a civil war. One side was supported by Israel, and the other side was supported by Iran.

In response to direct military action by US forces against the Iranian-supported side, a US military target was attacked.

Now, what part of that is "a lie that I should be dragged by my skull through the streets for" exactly?

Or is any factual evidence that doesn't fit your version of what went down a "lie" to you?

 

[Billo_Really]

Like saying "Iran is trying to wipe out the jews", when there's no evidence of this. Son, what world do you live in? Perhaps you should first know what you're talking about before commenting...

October 27, 2005 - TEHRAN — Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Wednesday that Israel must be "wiped off the map"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html

I'm no fan of Iran's president, but he didn't say what you claimed he said. There was a translation error by the interpretor who was translating the speech from Farsi to English.

Lost in translation

Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'.

The proper translation was...

"eliminated from the page of history".​

And he wasn't referring to the state of Israel itself, he was referring to the current government occupying Jerusalem. So the whole statement reads....

"This regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history."​

Which could be a call to vote them out of office.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but taking things out of context, is not justification for war.

 

[Vast LWC]

Yeah, and I doubt you cared even the slightest bit about the 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. You're the type of asshole who cracked open his 12th beer that day and put on a movie on DVD from the comforts of his recliner while complaining that every channel was covering the situation.

That's the best part about liberals and libertarians - they all want to wait until after Americans die in horrific events to do anything. Only an asshole of epic proportions closes the barn door after the horses have escaped.

Ahh, I see, now you're going to try to tie in Iran with 9/11, like you and your ilk tried to tie in Iraq with 9/11 to start the last stupid ******* war.

WHAT THE **** DOES INVADING IRAN HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11?

No, don't bother answering, because you'll make up some bullshit connection involving some new bullshit source, (probably named "screwball" as opposed to "curveball").

The answer is: NOTHING.

So shut the **** up about it.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah, and I doubt you cared even the slightest bit about the 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. You're the type of asshole who cracked open his 12th beer that day and put on a movie on DVD from the comforts of his recliner while complaining that every channel was covering the situation.

A beer and a movie is better than just sitting there reading a book about some dumb goat!

 

[Desperado]

Hey idiot, can you read? It says ALMOST. It doesn't say "no one" - it says ALMOST. Second, considering Israel one of our allies, who the **** cares if they have a nuke? This is a desperate attempt by an idiot liberal to justify that which cannot be justified.

No desperate attempt here, just pointing out the only country in the region that does have nukes. Israel is our supposed ally,

A religious zealot is a religious zealot moron. Osama Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia. His #2, Ayman al-Zawahiri is from Egypt. Ziad Jarrah (9/11 hijacker pilot) was from Beirut. All worked for Al Qaeda. Feel like an idiot yet? You should.

Why...... did you not see the sarcasm in my remark?
You are the one tying Iran in with 9/11. Which by the way is a considerable stretch.

The minute Iran has a nuke, they will launch on Israel..

Are you sure about that? One Iranian nuke on a untried delivery system vs Israel's 200 nukes. Not even those wild and crazy Iranian leaders would take those odds.

So if I purchase for you, the best bullet proof vest in the world, you'll allow me to shoot at you as many times as I want, right? Because, you know, all missile defense systems are 100% flawless and never miss their target, right? Feel like an extra special idiot yet? *You should.

Let me remind you of those odds again, you said "The minute Iran has a nuke, they will launch on Israel". So that means 1 Iranian nuke vs the entire Israeli defense system. With all the money and military aid that the US gives Israel for just that type of defense there should be no excuse, unless of course they are not using that money as intended.


Now don't you feel special?

 

[Vast LWC]

So, since the Republican party is now a bunch of "religious zealots", does that mean that we should not be allowed to have Nukes whenever they're in control?

 

[JoeB131]

So Russia and China are going to start WWIII over us bombing Iran's nuke facilities and their military....

Yeah, they're going to end mankind over us trying to stop Iran from wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth in your fucked up mind.

Russia likes to harm us by supporting Iran, terrorists, etc but they're not willing to get their own country turned into a ball of fire over Iran, dumbfuck.

Oh, Russia and China would have a hardtime dealing with the Arabs if they sent their military to protect Iran, because Iran is HATED by the Jews and Arabs.....kinda like you're hated by both sides here.
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The question for not crazy people is, why should we risk nuclear armageddon over Israel in the first place.

The Iranians might not be liked by the Arabs but the Arab on the street hates the Zionists even more.

If Iran gets a nuke, it's not really that big of a deal. Everyone else in the region already has them.

A completely stupid and ignorant post, as we might expect from you.

Well, when you can answer the questions intelligently, let us know.

 

[JoeB131]

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Yeah, and I doubt you cared even the slightest bit about the 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. You're the type of asshole who cracked open his 12th beer that day and put on a movie on DVD from the comforts of his recliner while complaining that every channel was covering the situation.

That's the best part about liberals and libertarians - they all want to wait until after Americans die in horrific events to do anything. Only an asshole of epic proportions closes the barn door after the horses have escaped.

The Iranians had nothing to do with 9/11.

I find it amusing that you jokers who think that I won't vote for Romney being a Mormon is wrong, but you want to indict every ******* Muslim in the world for 9/11.

Incidently, I served during the first Gulf War. You know what I took away from that? We have no business over there. THey've been fighting over patches of sands for thousands of years before we go there, they'll be fighting over htem long after we are gone.

 

[JoeB131]

"If Iran gets a nuke, it's not really that big of a deal. Everyone else in the region already has them"

First of all, almost no one else in that region has them. Iraq doesn't have them. Neither does Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Jordan, Lebanon, or Syria.

Doooy, Corky, Israel has them Pakistan has them, Russia has them, India has them, China has them, we have them. Iran can't thrown down the shit unless they are willing to accept everyone else will thrown down shit back.

Second, Iran is controlled by radical muslims. Religious zealots who want to die. You know, like the type who would committ suicide by flying planes into a building.

Or the kind that take a sliver of land because God gave it to their ancestors 3000 years ago.

Where do you get from Iran's history that they "Want to die"? I think it shows a profound ignorance of Islam, really. Quite the contrary, the Iranian leadership has shown willingness to negotiate and cooperate, as Ronald Reagan found when he got the hostages out of Lebanon.

On the other hand, the only country that has ever nuked innocent people? Ummm... that would be us.

The minute Iran has a nuke, they will launch on Israel. But why should you care Joe, you hate "evil" Jews almost as much as you hate wealthy, successful people. Time to crack open your seventh beer before 9:00 a.m. this morning, right?

No, man, I have a job. I'm not here posting all day trying to get the love of my corporate masters while they expect you to do work.

I just think it's kind of silly to get in the middle of a fight over who a Sky Pixie gave a strip of desert to.

 

[Mac1958]

Incidently, I served during the first Gulf War. You know what I took away from that? We have no business over there.

Oh sure, there you go again Joe, pretending you don't know the fact it's our planet, we're exceptional, and that we get to do what we want, where we want. Get it through your head, kid, the more of our troops who die in stupid wars, the more it means we "care about" and "support" them. Get it?

What are ya, some kinda freakin' commie?

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[JoeB131]

Incidently, I served during the first Gulf War. You know what I took away from that? We have no business over there.

Oh sure, there you go again Joe, pretending you don't know the fact it's our planet, we're exceptional, and that we get to do what we want, where we want. Get it through your head, kid, the more of our troops who die in stupid wars, the more it means we "care about" and "support" them. Get it?

What are ya, some kinda freakin' commie?

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Apparently.

"Commie" has been redefined as anyone who questions the wisdom of doing something proven to be stupid.

 

[P@triot]

Would I be willing to take the chance that my dog is secretly a serial killer? It's equally likely.

That's the exact ignorant attitude that lead to Al Qaeda killing 3,000 American's in a coordinated attack on September 11, 2001. Some people just never learn I guess....

You know how we could make sure another terrorist attack never happens? Place cameras in everyone's homes. Constant monitoring of the population. Except that's outrageous.

Or, we could just act like grown adults and proactively defend the US against it's enemies. But, you just keep advocating for the "ignorance is bliss" foreign policy.

 

[Paulie]

16 pages of posts, 44 voters, and the only ones who voted no are the liberals and libertarians on the board, and the only ones who voted yes are the wackiest of the right around here or some newbies fags ive never even heard of.

Whats up with all the regular conservatives? None of you have the balls to vote on this?

 

[P@triot]

Like saying "Iran is trying to wipe out the jews", when there's no evidence of this. Son, what world do you live in? Perhaps you should first know what you're talking about before commenting...

October 27, 2005 - TEHRAN — Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Wednesday that Israel must be "wiped off the map"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html

I'm no fan of Iran's president, but he didn't say what you claimed he said. There was a translation error by the interpretor who was translating the speech from Farsi to English.

Lost in translation

Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'.

The proper translation was...

"eliminated from the page of history".​

And he wasn't referring to the state of Israel itself, he was referring to the current government occupying Jerusalem. So the whole statement reads....

"This regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history."​

Which could be a call to vote them out of office.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but taking things out of context, is not justification for war.

So to be clear, you interpret "eliminated from the pages of history" as a "call to vote them out of office". LMAO! To use the word "naive" wouldn't even begin to describe you.

Also, if you believe the whole "interpreter" thing, I have the deed to Mount Everest. The mountain is worth $300 trillion but I'll sell it to you for the bargain price of $1 billion.

 

[P@triot]

Yeah, and I doubt you cared even the slightest bit about the 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. You're the type of asshole who cracked open his 12th beer that day and put on a movie on DVD from the comforts of his recliner while complaining that every channel was covering the situation.

That's the best part about liberals and libertarians - they all want to wait until after Americans die in horrific events to do anything. Only an asshole of epic proportions closes the barn door after the horses have escaped.

Ahh, I see, now you're going to try to tie in Iran with 9/11, like you and your ilk tried to tie in Iraq with 9/11 to start the last stupid ******* war.

WHAT THE **** DOES INVADING IRAN HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11?

No, don't bother answering, because you'll make up some bullshit connection involving some new bullshit source, (probably named "screwball" as opposed to "curveball").

The answer is: NOTHING.

So shut the **** up about it.

I didn't attempt to tie Iran to 9/11. I merely pointed out how you liberals wait for Americans to die before you do anything. Then you threw a hissy and used language like a junior high kid because you know I'm right and you have no argument for that. You need to learn to lose with grace.

 

[Billo_Really]

I didn't attempt to tie Iran to 9/11. I merely pointed out how you liberals wait for Americans to die before you do anything.

But we did do something. We went out of our way to go out to Bush's ranch to tell him Bin Laden intended to attach this country, 8 months before any American's had died.

So it's our fault, you did nothing about it?

Then you threw a hissy and used language like a junior high kid because you know I'm right and you have no argument for that. You need to learn to lose with grace.

The "you know I'm right" mantra, is pretty juvenile too.

 

[Billo_Really]

So to be clear, you interpret "eliminated from the pages of history" as a "call to vote them out of office". LMAO! To use the word "naive" wouldn't even begin to describe you.

Also, if you believe the whole "interpreter" thing, I have the deed to Mount Everest. The mountain is worth $300 trillion but I'll sell it to you for the bargain price of $1 billion.

It makes a lot more sense (and is more feasable) to want to end the occupation and oppression of the Palestinian's by a foreign force, than it is to wipe out that foreign force that could kick your ass in less than a week and still have time for Sunday barbacue.

 

[Polk]

That's the exact ignorant attitude that lead to Al Qaeda killing 3,000 American's in a coordinated attack on September 11, 2001. Some people just never learn I guess....

You know how we could make sure another terrorist attack never happens? Place cameras in everyone's homes. Constant monitoring of the population. Except that's outrageous.

Or, we could just act like grown adults and proactively defend the US against it's enemies. But, you just keep advocating for the "ignorance is bliss" foreign policy.

Part of being a grownup is knowing that it's not responsible to go around and beat the shit out of everyone you see just because you can.

 

[Billo_Really]

Part of being a grownup is knowing that it's not responsible to go around and beat the shit out of everyone you see just because you can.

Funny you should say that.

I used to say, "We went into Iraq for the same reason a dog licks' its balls!"