Would you intervene like Penny did on the subway???

[Cougarbear]

Actually, they don’t.

If someone asked me “if a big black guy on the subway platform grabs your suitcase right out of your hand and is heading toward the exit, would you chase after him and grab it back,” I would have said “no way!”

News flash. I DID.

If I thought I could catch him, I would...I'd tackle him, jump up on him and plant his face into the ground.

 

[j-mac]

Actually, they don’t.

If someone asked me “if a big black guy on the subway platform grabs your suitcase right out of your hand and is heading toward the exit, would you chase after him and grab it back,” I would have said “no way!”

News flash. I DID.

Wow! You go girl….

 

[Lisa558]

Wow! You go girl….

Nobody messes with the LIS!

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You will notice that charges were dropped because “under NY law, it is justifiable to use deadly force if one reasonably fears imminent deadly force from someone toward himself or others.” Thus, the case ws dropped, as it was determined that Williams was justified in killing the lunatic harassing and threatening others.

Why then weren’t charges dropped against Penny, in the similar case that happened a month prior to this one? Because: libs are racist against whitey.

Charges dropped against NYC man accused in deadly ‘self-defense' subway stabbing

The Queens man who argued he stabbed a subway rider to death in self-defense will avoid prosecution, city officials announced Wednesday. A grand jury declined to indict Jordan Williams on manslaughter and weapons charged stemming from the June 13 killing on a Brooklyn J train. The 20-year-old...

www.nbcnewyork.com

Devictor Quedraogo punched Jordan Williams girlfriend in the face. Tell me who Neely put his hands on.

 

[Lisa558]

Devictor Quedraogo punched Jordan Williams girlfriend in the face. Tell me who Neely put his hands on.

So if someone punches you, you’re allowed to stab him to death?

NO. You are not. The reason he was not charged is because…..AS I SAID….under NY law, one is justified in applying deadly force against someone if he feels that deadly force against him or others is imminent. THAT is why he wasn’t charged, and that was made clear in the article.

It is the same with Penny. He felt - and witnesses backed him up - that Neely was going to carry out his threats to kill someone. Thus, his case should have been dropped as well.

The REASON that Bragg threw the book at the white man - the DA even called him “the white man” throughout the trial - and dropped the charges against the black guy is because BRAGG IS A RACIST.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So if someone punches you, you’re allowed to stab him to death?

According to the Law you are, it's called self-defense.

NO. You are not. The reason he was not charged is because…..AS I SAID….under NY law, one is justified in applying deadly force against someone if he feels that deadly force against him or others is imminent. THAT is why he wasn’t charged, and that was made clear in the article.

It is the same with Penny. He felt - and witnesses backed him up - that Neely was going to carry out his threats to kill someone. Thus, his case should have been dropped as well.

The REASON that Bragg threw the book at the white man - the DA even called him “the white man” throughout the trial - and dropped the charges against the black guy is because BRAGG IS A RACIST.

One man had assaulted someone and the other man didn't, not sure why you can't see the difference. There was a case in Atlanta where a road rage incident happened where one driver got out of his car and punched another driver, the driver who was punched stabbed the man and he died. Guess what? No charges, it was ruled self-defense. See putting your hands on someone is very different from talking about putting your hands on someone.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Would you intervene like Penny did on the subway???​

I would and I have intervened in similar fashion.

I was sitting with a bunch of friends in a restaurant in Santa Cruz, CA back in the 80s. A mentally disturbed dude who had a grudge against one of my friends came into the restaurant; walked up to the table; and punched my friend in the face. I was at the end of the booth. I immediately hopped out of my seat and held the dude in a choke hold until the cops showed up and arrested him.

Around 2005, I managed an apartment complex. A drug dealer used to hop the back fence and walk across the complex property and make his rounds (selling drugs). I didn't pay too much attention as he never caused any problems with me. But one day, he decided to sit at the park bench located on the property. I didn't want him to set up shop, so I asked him what he was doing or who he was visiting. He said he was just kicking back. I told him that if he wasn't a tenant or visiting someone specific, that he would have to leave.

The next day, I was sitting at my computer and I heard a lough “thump.” Then I heard it again. Then I heard it a third time and my truck alarm went off. He was kicking the side of my truck. It was a hot day, so I went outside barefoot and in my shorts and commanded him to leave the property and never come back. He approached me and attempted to punch me in the face. I blocked his punch and landed my fist in his eye socket. He went down. When he got up, he said, “I'll be back with my AK-47.” I said, “I'll be waiting with my AR-15.” There were a number of witnesses and several people called the cops. He was arrested. The court forced him to write an apology letter to me, and they signed an automatic restraining order against him. I never had a problem with him after that.

 

[Lisa558]

According to the Law you are, it's called self-defense.

One man had assaulted someone and the other man didn't, not sure why you can't see the difference. There was a case in Atlanta where a road rage incident happened where one driver got out of his car and punched another driver, the driver who was punched stabbed the man and he died. Guess what? No charges, it was ruled self-defense. See putting your hands on someone is very different from talking about putting your hands on someone.

You’re just making excuses to justify the racist Bragg’s decision to let the black guy off and throw the book at whitey.

You are allowed self-defense to a point. If you feel your life (or someone else’s is in danger), then you are allowed to kill in self-defense. According to you, if you slap me across the face in an argument, I am permitted to take a knife and bludgeon you to death.

And for the last time - being physically attacked is irrelevant. If an assault (such as in Neely’s case…..and look up the definition of assault) is threatening deadly force, then one is allowed to engage deadly force.

The NY law was applied to the black and he had charges dropped, and the same NY law was NOT applied to the white. Pure racism on the part of Bragg.

 

[LibertyKid]

Here's what happened, a mentally ill guy was screaming on a train.

No other passenger except the killer decided to take it upon himself to snuff the guy out.

The answer to the question is, no one was being threatened.

Nice try. Yes, the guy was mentally ill. But he was arrested, what 40 times, two previous attacks on females, drug abuser, etc. Yes, no one probably knew the previous rap sheet, but he was a threat when he was threatening to kill people who had very little room or chance to escape. Many witnesses came forward for Penny, including Blacks. Stop trying to make this a race issue, when in reality this is a failure on Neely's family (his dad gave two shits about Jordan) and the justice and mental health system that allowed this man to out in public knowing his mental instability and Jordan being a threat to the general public.

 

[Meathead]

Again, who was being threatened?

Name them.

The people on the subway car. Some of them are named. Do the research yourself you lazy bastard.

 

[Meathead]

The answer to the question is, no one was being threatened.

You are seriously stupid or everyone was lying.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You’re just making excuses to justify the racist Bragg’s decision to let the black guy off and throw the book at whitey.

You are allowed self-defense to a point. If you feel your life (or someone else’s is in danger), then you are allowed to kill in self-defense. According to you, if you slap me across the face in an argument, I am permitted to take a knife and bludgeon you to death.

And for the last time - being physically attacked is irrelevant. If an assault (such as in Neely’s case…..and look up the definition of assault) is threatening deadly force, then one is allowed to engage deadly force.

The NY law was applied to the black and he had charges dropped, and the same NY law was NOT applied to the white. Pure racism on the part of Bragg.

So u are saying that me telling you that I am going to whoop your ass is equal to you punching me in the face.

So how many times should I stab someone who has put their hands on me?

Now me actually doing physical harm to you is irrelevant.

Post the Law that u r citing from.

 

[Lisa558]

So u are saying that me telling you that I am going to whoop your ass is equal to you punching me in the face.

So how many times should I stab someone who has put their hands on me?

Now me actually doing physical harm to you is irrelevant.

Post the Law that u r citing from.

According to the law, it doesn’t matter if someone puts their hands on you or not - what counts is if you were in imminent fear of being killed.

As far as the law, it was in the post where I cited the case of the black kid getting off with no charges for stabbing the crazy guy to death.

You’re so eager to find a reason - other than racism - for why Bragg went after whitey and let the black dude off that you are ignoring the law.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

According to the law, it doesn’t matter if someone puts their hands on you or not - what counts is if you were in imminent fear of being killed.

As far as the law, it was in the post where I cited the case of the black kid getting off with no charges for stabbing the crazy guy to death.

You’re so eager to find a reason - other than racism - for why Bragg went after whitey and let the black dude off that you are ignoring the law.

Post the Law that says that.

 

[Lisa558]

Post the Law that says that.

It was in the article I posted. Look it up yourself.

 

[j-mac]

Superweakbrutha only wanted him convicted because he’s white.

 

[Lisa558]

Superweakbrutha only wanted him convicted because he’s white.

Same with Bragg. He should be ousted for his prosecution based on race - black gets charged dropped but whitey gets set up for what could have been a 15-year prison sentence.

 

[Rawley]

Devictor Quedraogo punched Jordan Williams girlfriend in the face. Tell me who Neely put his hands on.

So you'll wait until the guys screaming "I'm going to kill someone" stabs your girlfriend in the chest before you do something?

 

[Unkotare]

According to democrat thinking, past or present injustices done to black people can only be atoned for with injustices done to non-black people. It's the same thinking that drives their tax policies, and just about everything else. Harrison Bergeron thinking.

 

[Concerned American]

one is allowed to engage deadly force.

These laws vary from state to state, but most states limit your response to what would be adequate (in kind) response. You wouldn't be justified to shoot someone who slapped your face for example.