Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

You do know, don't you, that your knee will bow, and your tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord, right?

You do know that Jesus never asked anyone to kneel or bow down before him. Don't you? He said, get out of your deathbed, stand UPRIGHT, and walk like a man, not a creepy bug.


Pop quiz!

1. What crazy scary mythological creature described in scripture would in reality, whether a real or an imagined human being, demand that people bow down before them and not God?

A. The talking serpent. The Nachash.
B. Trump. The discombobulator.
C. The Antichrist. The counterfeit Jesus.
D. All of the above

Your final grade depends on you getting this right.

So, take your time....

 

[hadit]

No, you are wrong.

Everyone is called, few are chosen. If you received an invitation to attend a black tie event and you show up dressed in filthy rags reeking of cheap wine and vomit the doorman will summarily toss your ass out into the darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.

“Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost."

IOW, He has already clothed me appropriately in HIS righteousness. He has spread His table before me in the presence of my enemies. See, I am not deterred by your increasingly feeble insults and judgements. You don't get to make that call, only HE can.

1. You do know, don't you, that your knee will bow, and your tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord, right?
2. Have you figured out yet whether it was 2,000 years or 7 1/2? You do realize that little mess up revealed that you really don't know what you're talking about? We all do.

 

[hobelim]

“Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost."

"Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor on what does not satisfy? Listen carefully to me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of foods."

Hence, "Eat my flesh", (the fruit of my mind. It is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.)

 

[hadit]

You do know that Jesus never asked anyone to kneel or bow down before him. Don't you? He said, get out of your deathbed, stand UPRIGHT, and walk like a man, not a creepy bug.


Pop quiz!

1. What crazy scary mythological creature described in scripture would in reality, whether a real or an imagined human being, demand that people bow down before them and not God?

A. A talking serpent. The Nachash.
B. Trump. The discombobulator.
C. The Antichrist. A counterfeit Jesus.
D. All of the above

Your final grade depends on you getting this right.

So, take your time....

Jesus didn't have to say it, God set it up.

"9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

That includes you.

 

[hadit]

"Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor on what does not satisfy? Listen carefully to me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of foods."

Hence, "Eat my flesh", (the fruit of my mind. It is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.)

I am clothed in HIS righteousness.

 

[hobelim]

I am clothed in HIS righteousness.

Yeah sure.

Thats why you don't have the "faith" to admit that Jesus was using figures of speech but "believe" that a mangod died so you can sin with impunity for life. Go back to the drawing board before you get expelled by God for nonfeasance and tossed alive into the lake of fire.

 

[hadit]

Yeah sure.

Thats why you don't have the "faith" to admit that Jesus was using figures of speech but "believe" that a mangod died so you can sin with impunity for life. Go back to the drawing board before you get expelled by God for nonfeasance and tossed alive into the lake of fire.

And there it is again, your refusal to admit I've already dealt with that nonsense and told you what I believe. You do not listen, you do not comprehend.

"9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

That includes you.

Also, 2,000 years is not the same as 7 1/2 years. We all know that, apparently you do not, or you would have admitted so.

 

[hobelim]

And there it is again, your refusal to admit I've already dealt with that nonsense and told you what I believe. You do not listen, you do not comprehend.

"9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

That includes you.

Also, 2,000 years is not the same as 7 1/2 years. We all know that, apparently you do not, or you would have admitted so.

Pathetic.

Toodles! Wašíču

 

[hadit]

Pathetic.

Toodles! Wašíču

"9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

That includes you.

Also, 2,000 years is not the same as 7 1/2 years. We all know that, apparently you do not, or you would have admitted so. And you continue to demonstrate you do not get your spiritual knowledge from the Scriptures, but from Youtube videos.

 

[BreezeWood]

You cannot allow yourself to accept Yeshua's divinity,

in fact that is you who can not accept the fact jesus gave their life than to bow to judaism - or to all three desert religions their future manifestations.

 

[hobelim]

"9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

"For already the secret power of wickedness is at work, secret only for the present until the Restrainer disappears from the scene. And then he will be revealed, that wicked man whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth (the breath of life) and the brightness of his coming. But the coming of that man is the work of satan. It will be attended by all the powerful signs and "miracles of the Lie", and all the deception that sinfulness can impose on those doomed to destruction. Destroyed they shall be, because they did not open their minds to the love of truth, so as to find salvation. Therefore God puts them under a delusion, which works upon them to believe the Lie, so that they may be brought to judgment, all who do not believe the truth but make sinfulness their deliberate choice." 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12

 

[hadit]

"For already the secret power of wickedness is at work, secret only for the present until the Restrainer disappears from the scene. And then he will be revealed, that wicked man whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth (the breath of life) and the brightness of his coming. But the coming of that man is the work of satan. It will be attended by all the powerful signs and "miracles of the Lie", and all the deception that sinfulness can impose on those doomed to destruction. Destroyed they shall be, because they did not open their minds to the love of truth, so as to find salvation. Therefore God puts them under a delusion, which works upon them to believe the Lie, so that they may be brought to judgment, all who do not believe the truth but make sinfulness their deliberate choice." 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12

Are you trying to claim that Scripture is the work of satan?

You WILL bow your knee and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus is Lord.

 

[hobelim]

Are you trying to claim that Scripture is the work of satan?

WTF? No.

I am trying to show that the Law of my God remains in effect and in full force but you did it for me with such an open display of UNAWARENESS, the death, a curse for defying the Law.

Thanks!

You WILL bow your knee and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus is Lord.

lol, Grrrrrrr!

Don't hold your breath sparky. I already know that you think that Jesus was a mangod, the spawn of a trinity, you crafty devil. FYI, I would rather be crucified upside down than to bow down and pay homage to the Antichrist, your false substitute counterfeit imaginary Jesus with all of the powerful signs and "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally.

Was that clear enough for you?

 

[ding]

Great question! Let me know what you find out after doing some basic research. Razz my berries. Just don't flip your wig when you find out how heavy it is. Can you dig it ankle-biter?

I just got oil in your water. I win again!!!!

 

[ding]

I am trying to show that the Law of my God remains in effect

The law of buggery?

 

[ding]

Are you trying to claim that Scripture is the work of satan?

You WILL bow your knee and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus is Lord.

You do realize this bozo is an atheist, right?

 

[ding]

"For already the secret power of wickedness is at work, secret only for the present until the Restrainer disappears from the scene. And then he will be revealed, that wicked man whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth (the breath of life) and the brightness of his coming. But the coming of that man is the work of satan. It will be attended by all the powerful signs and "miracles of the Lie", and all the deception that sinfulness can impose on those doomed to destruction. Destroyed they shall be, because they did not open their minds to the love of truth, so as to find salvation. Therefore God puts them under a delusion, which works upon them to believe the Lie, so that they may be brought to judgment, all who do not believe the truth but make sinfulness their deliberate choice." 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12

Sounds like he was describing you.

 

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hobelim

Therefore God puts them under a delusion that men anal ******* men is normal behavior, which works upon them to believe the Lie, so that they may be brought to judgment, all who do not believe the truth but make sinfulness their deliberate choice."

See?

 

[ding]

"For already the secret power of wickedness is at work, secret only for the present until the Restrainer disappears from the scene. And then he will be revealed, that wicked man whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth (the breath of life) and the brightness of his coming. But the coming of that man is the work of satan. It will be attended by all the powerful signs and "miracles of the Lie", and all the deception that sinfulness can impose on those doomed to destruction. Destroyed they shall be, because they did not open their minds to the love of truth, so as to find salvation. Therefore God puts them under a delusion, which works upon them to believe the Lie, so that they may be brought to judgment, all who do not believe the truth but make sinfulness their deliberate choice." 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12

Google disagrees with your interpretation. Google says 2 Thessalonians 2:7–12 is describing YOU.

No, 2 Thessalonians 2:7–12 describes people who are deceived into following the "man of lawlessness" (Antichrist) rather than believing in the divine Christ. These individuals are perishing because they refused to love the truth of the Gospel, leading God to send a "strong delusion" so they believe a lie.

• The Context: Paul explains that before Christ returns, a "man of lawlessness" (Antichrist) will appear, empowered by Satan to perform false signs and wonders.
• The Target Audience: The text refers to those who are "perishing" because they rejected the truth and "delighted in wickedness".
• The "Lie" and "Delusion": As a result of their refusal to believe in the true Gospel of Christ, God allows them to be deceived into believing a lie, which is that the man of lawlessness is worthy of worship.
• Contrast with Believers: Instead of believing in Christ's divinity, they are deceived by the lawless one, who opposes God and sets himself up in the temple to be worshipped as God.

In summary, the passage describes the opposite of believing in Christ's divinity; it describes those who are judged with deception for rejecting Him.

 

[ding]

Everyone is called, few are chosen.

None of those few are atheists.

Jesus taught that those who work against Him or do not gather with Him are against God, calling them opponents who scatter rather than unite. He warned that while most sins can be forgiven, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. Jesus described those working iniquity as producing "evil fruit".

Key Teachings Regarding Those Against God:

• The Divider Principle: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters" (Matthew 12:30).
• Unpardonable Sin: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the only sin that will not be forgiven, now or in the future.
• Evil Fruit: Jesus taught that evil comes from the heart, and people are judged for producing "evil fruit" (actions).
• Rejection of the Lordship: Those who refuse to acknowledge his authority, promote division, or follow their own systems rather than God's will are considered to be in opposition.