Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[ding]

If you think 'pretending' is faith that will get you brownie points with my God, you got another thing coming because, in case you didn't notice, God, my God is in control of creation either granting or denying comprehension. You are a deceiver, idolator, sorcerer and murderer, so,

Not according to Jesus whom you rieject.

 

[hobelim]

Not according to Jesus whom you rieject.

No, I reject your false substitute counterfeit ascetic Jesus, with all the supernatural "miracles of the lie" that Scripture is to be taken literally conjured from the depths of a Roman hell, created in the image and likeness of Mithras, and violently unleashed on the world in 325ce.

The power Jesus had, an ordinary Jewish man, was in his words, the words he received from my God like bread from heaven that became his flesh, his teaching, on the only right way to understand and comply with the Laws demands that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of Gods love, here on earth now, not after you die.

Everyone who hears his words, teaching, and acts on it are healed whether blinded by hatred crippled by fear or a slave to sin because they were brainwashed by a devil of a death cult.

If you think 'pretending' is faith that will get you brownie points with my God, you got another thing coming because, in case you didn't notice, God, my God is in control of creation either granting or denying comprehension. You are a deceiver, idolator, sorcerer and murderer, so,

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of heaven, and never is a very long time.

 

[ding]

No, I reject your false substitute counterfeit ascetic Jesus, with all the supernatural "miracles of the lie" that Scripture is to be taken literally conjured from the depths of a Roman hell, created in the image and likeness of Mithras, and violently unleashed on the world in 325ce.

The power Jesus had, an ordinary Jewish man, was in his words, the words he received from my God like bread from heaven that became his flesh, his teaching, on the only right way to understand and comply with the Laws demands that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of Gods love, here on earth now, not after you die.

Everyone who hears his words, teaching, and acts on it are healed whether blinded by hatred crippled by fear or a slave to sin because they were brainwashed by a devil of a death cult.

If you think 'pretending' is faith that will get you brownie points with my God, you got another thing coming because, in case you didn't notice, God, my God is in control of creation either granting or denying comprehension. You are a deceiver, idolator, sorcerer and murderer, so,

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of heaven, and never is a very long time.

You reject Jesus because you pervert his word. You argued that what was recorded in the gospels was the product of a massive conspiracy. You've provided no evidence of such. You then proceed to pervert the gospels to support your diametrically opposite ridiculous beliefs, also without evidence. So yeah, you reject Jesus because you pervert his word.

 

[hobelim]

You reject Jesus because you pervert his word. You argued that what was recorded in the gospels was the product of a massive conspiracy.

No, I reject your trinity that became an edible mangod, the Antichrist. and I said that there is hidden teaching in the figurative words used in the Gospels like in any fairy tale. The entire bible speaks of hidden treasure being reveal during the last days. I have already shown you.

You've provided no evidence of such.

How is it that you have failed to see what I have already proven? Your claim that practicing idolatry is the way to eternal life has be refuted by your own words which contradict the entire Bible, the teaching of all the prophets, and demonstrates that there is no life in you.

 

[ding]

No, I reject your trinity that became an edible mangod, the Antichrist. and I said that there is hidden teaching in the figurative words used in the Gospels like in any fairy tale. The entire bible speaks of hidden treasure being reveal during the last days. I have already shown you.


How is it that you have failed to see what I have already proven? Your claim that practicing idolatry is the way to eternal life has be refuted by your own words which contradict the entire Bible, the teaching of all the prophets, and demonstrates that there is no life in you.

This says all I need to say.

 

[BreezeWood]

This says all I need to say.

begin with the realization both abraham and moses are both liars and were chosen for the content of their lies than any heavenly personification which neither ever experienced -

proven over recorded history those religions primary purpose to persecute and victimize the innocent to ensure their own sinful ways.

- to save yourself from a life of sinning.

 

[ding]

begin with the realization both abraham and moses are both liars and were chosen for the content of their lies than any heavenly personification which neither ever experienced -

proven over recorded history those religions primary purpose to persecute and victimize the innocent to ensure their own sinful ways.

- to save yourself from a life of sinning.

 

[BreezeWood]

- provide any verification either abraham or moses ever were spoken to by the heavens - other than your belief and a belief that is based on your own acquiescence for their assertions.

 

[ding]

- provide any verification either abraham or moses ever were spoken to by the heavens - other than your belief and a belief that is based on your own acquiescence for their assertions.

It's your claim to prove. The burden of proof is on you. So....

 

[ding]

Leviticus does make homosexuality against the law but we dont live today by 4000 year old Jewish civil law. Leviticus is the word of man not God

How do you explain Israel not allowing same sex marriages to be performed in Israel?

 

[BreezeWood]

This says all I need to say.

It's your claim to prove. The burden of proof is on you. So....

- provide any verification either abraham or moses ever were spoken to by the heavens - other than your belief and a belief that is based on your own acquiescence for their assertions.

no, its both your religion and claim without a shred of evidence for anything said by who you worship you use at the expense of those you harbor ill will towards as your justification to do so.

the recorded histories of persecution and victimization of the innocent by all three desert religions from their beginnings to the present day.

 

[ding]

no, its both your religion and claim without a shred of evidence for anything said by who you worship you use at the expense of those you harbor ill will towards as your justification to do so.

the recorded histories of persecution and victimization of the innocent by all three desert religions from their beginnings to the present day.

This is what you said, "abraham and moses are both liars and were chosen for the content of their lies."

Back it up or go away.

 

[BreezeWood]

This is what you said, "abraham and moses are both liars and were chosen for the content of their lies."

Back it up or go away.

no, its both your religion and claim without a shred of evidence for anything said by who you worship you use at the expense of those you harbor ill will towards as your justification to do so.

you're the liar and criminal same as them using false conviction as fabricated christianity, madeup commandments as if for any other reason than to persecute and victimize the innocent its primary goal.

 

[ding]

you're the liar and criminal same as them...

You still haven't provided evidence they were liars. Where is your evidence?

It seems like maybe you are the one lying.

 

[ding]

...fabricated christianity, madeup commandments...
...persecute and victimize the innocent...

That's quite the conspiracy theory. Where's your evidence?

 

[Ringo]

What next? Dancing with snakes, like in some chirch in Florida?

 

[BreezeWood]

What next? Dancing with snakes, like in some chirch in Florida?

pugs will do anything necessary for their own personal benefit ...

Racist, Antisemitic Messages Linked to Florida Republican Group Chat​

A university in South Florida said it is investigating reports regarding a group chat containing "abhorrent and extremely disturbing language."

The group chat containing students and several top conservative leaders at Florida International University (FIU) featured racist slurs, antisemitic comments and misogynistic language, according to the Miami Herald, which viewed and independently verified the conversations.

double faced and lying are their primary modus operandi - and desert dwellers as they claim every one of them throughout history.

 

[hadit]

I am not "claiming" that the creator can't control creation. I accept the creation that he has created the way it is and has always been for all of the inhabitants of the earth ever since life first appeared on this planet. You are the one claiming that God changed his mind, became human, abolished his own eternal Laws, and commanded people to practice idolatry, deceit, human sacrifice and sorcery (mind control which is equivalent to murder) which is ridiculous.

That is false from the first 4 words. You absolutely are claiming that the creator can't control His creation, as Yeshua was there before creation, NOT Moses, and through Yeshua everything was created that was created. He could and did control that creation.

What you have failed to notice is that there is a rational way to explain every miracle, a way that conforms to and can be confirmed by the REALITY that God created which apparently YOU reject by deliberately pretending to believe in what is impossible to be literally true.

The only way to explain away the miracles of the Christ is to go "Nuh-uh!" and pervert the plain meaning of Scripture, which you do.

The power Jesus had, an ordinary Jewish man, was in his words, the words he received from my God like bread from heaven that became his flesh, his teaching, on the only right way to understand and comply with the Laws demands that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of Gods love, here on earth now, not after you die.

If you think 'pretending' is faith that will get you brownie points with my God, you got another thing coming because, in case you didn't notice, God, my God is in control of creation either granting or denying comprehension. You are a deceiver, idolator, sorcerer and murderer, so,

You simply want to deny Christ's divinity, and to that end you invent new meanings for words and deny that they say what they actually say.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of heaven, and never is a very long time.

That is not up to you. I know for a fact that God is not going to ask you for input on anyone.

 

[DennisPTate]

That's quite the conspiracy theory. Where's your evidence?

Speaking of conspiracy theories....
I have one myself....
Can you imagine how insane the Trump Derangement Syndrome People would get if President Donald J. Trump and his team got into some spirituality and theology in their spare time and brought Christian Theologians to a whole new place of cooperation with Rabbi's in Israel?
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If the Disciple known as John was a genuine "Christian Prophet" then the soul of "The Spirit of Moshiach stored in Gan Eden" either entered Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and turned Him into Messiah Yeshua - Jesus at conception, or perhaps at birth, or perhaps at the unusual event of the Holy Spirit coming upon Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus like a "dove" when He was baptized by John the Baptist at the River Jordan?

I personally no longer know for certain exactly when Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus became "Messiah the Passover Lamb - Messiah Son of David," was it even before conception? Was it at His birth? Or was it when He was Baptized by John the Baptist? The full answer to this topic is above my own Security Clearance Level and Pay Scale with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [and incidentally when Messiah Yeshua - Jesus appears as The Being of Light of near death experience fame], He often tells whoever He meets about a major piece of the puzzle and then tells them to NOT TELL ANYBODY, what He just showed them was a major piece of the "Genius Master Plan," [as former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava terms what the G-d of Abraham has set up for all eight billion of us]?

Here is an article from a Jewish website that has the power to revolutionize the relationship between the vast majority of Christians, [including Pope Leo himself], with ten million Israelis, [or at least with the leading Rabbi's in Israel]?

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So now after reading this article we can begin to ask questions that will make much more sense out of the seemingly blasphemous statements that were made by the Disciple John regarding the Pre-Existence of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [the Prophet Isa to Muslims, Shalom be upon Him]?

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"On the particular day that marks the end of the galut, when Mashiach will redeem Israel, the unique pre-existing soul of Mashiach ‘stored’ in Gan Eden from aforetimes will descend and be bestowed upon that tzadik.10 R. Mosheh Sofer summarizes this principle in his responsa:11 "
[The Personality of Mashiach, By J. Immanuel Schochet, From the Sichos in English Collection ]

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In true Christianity, how you conduct your life and treat others is important and is part of being on the straight and narrow path. From a Christian perspective, we believe that Jesus was Jehovah of the Old Testament.

Exactly!

If the Disciple known as John was a genuine "Christian Prophet" then the soul of "The Spirit of Moshiach stored in Gan Eden" either entered Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and turned Him into Messiah Yeshua - Jesus at conception, or perhaps at birth, or perhaps at the unusual event of the Holy Spirit coming upon Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus like a "dove" when He was...

• DennisPTate

 

[hobelim]

You simply want to deny Christ's divinity, and to that end you invent new meanings for words and deny that they say what they actually say.

Piss off. you can believe that if you want but the truth is Jesus was as just as divine as anyone who has the spark of life within them. Jesus as the head of the mystical body of Christ is no more divine than the foot.