Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hadit]

Incorrect.

Portraying Jesus as supernatural isn't just an element in the Gospels; it's fundamental to what the Gospels aim to convey about his identity and purpose.

The Gospels make a deliberate and central effort to portray Jesus as a supernatural being, highlighting his divine nature through miraculous deeds (healings, nature control, resurrection), his unique divine conception, and his identity as the Son of God, with John's Gospel emphasizing his pre-existence and deity most strongly. While different Gospels emphasize different aspects (Matthew as King, Mark as Servant, Luke as perfect Man), all present a figure whose life, actions, and claims transcend the ordinary human experience to reveal God.

The majority of mainstream biblical scholars agree that the authors of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) made a concerted, intentional effort to portray Jesus as a supernatural figure.

That is why he deliberately perverts the plain meaning of Scripture and invents new meanings for virtually every word found therein, because to read and understand the Scriptures as they are written leads to the inescapable conclusion that Jesus very deliberately claimed to be God, and he cannot have that.

 

[hobelim]

That is why he deliberately perverts the plain meaning of Scripture and invents new meanings for virtually every word found therein, because to read and understand the Scriptures as they are written leads to the inescapable conclusion that Jesus very deliberately claimed to be God, and he cannot have that.

You might not realize this but words can and do have double meanings and people have compared other people to creatures in nature to either praise or insult in every language ever since people could talk. Jesus made it clear he was using figures of speech, John 16:25, and he made it clear that the subject of kosher law, what defiles a person, is not food. Mat 15:11

By telling you to take that ignorant superstitious lore that Jesus was a mangod and ram it up your snout I am complying with kosher law, doing exactly as my God commands. So now you might want to notice how different human personality types are viewed by my God by him comparing them to lower beasts, wild animals, or bugs... vile and loathsome creatures.

This is truth; either Jesus meant something else by saying "the Father and I are one", etc., or he was insane. Its as simple as that. I say he meant something else. You have the "faith" to insist that Jesus was insane. Putz! You can't have it both ways. One unequalled God who is incorporeal and not human is not the same as a coequal Roman trinity that became a man, "a perfect human sacrifice". Smarten up. If you can't because of embarrassment this is why;


As it is written; Naughty boys who remain on Pleasure Island too long grow donkey ears for life and can't talk. (Pinocchio 3:14) Can a blind man see the plain meaning of that? Yes? No?

Can I get a hee haw?

 

[hobelim]

That is why he deliberately perverts the plain meaning of Scripture and invents new meanings for virtually every word found therein

"This, he told me, is the curse which goes out over all the land. For by the writing on one side every thief shall be swept clean away and by the writing on the other side every perjurer shall be swept clean away. I have sent it out, the Lord of hosts has said, and it shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the man who has perjured himself in my name. It shall stay inside that house and demolish it, timbers, and stones, and all." Zechariah 5:3

 

[hadit]

You might not realize this but words can and do have double meanings and people have compared other people to creatures in nature to either praise or insult in every language ever since people could talk. Jesus made it clear he was using figures of speech, John 16:25, and he made it clear that the subject of kosher law, what defiles a person, is not food. Mat 15:11

By telling you to take that ignorant superstitious lore that Jesus was a mangod and ram it up your snout I am complying with kosher law, doing exactly as my God commands. So now you might want to notice how different human personality types are viewed by my God by him comparing them to lower beasts, wild animals, or bugs... vile and loathsome creatures.

This is truth; either Jesus meant something else by saying "the Father and I are one", etc., or he was insane. Its as simple as that. I say he meant something else. You have the "faith" to insist that Jesus was insane. Putz! You can't have it both ways. One unequalled God who is incorporeal and not human is not the same as a coequal Roman trinity that became a man, "a perfect human sacrifice". Smarten up. If you can't because of embarrassment this is why;


As it is written; Naughty boys who remain on Pleasure Island too long grow donkey ears for life and can't talk. (Pinocchio 3:14) Can a blind man see the plain meaning of that? Yes? No?

Can I get a hee haw?

Your narrow mindedness rejects the true option, that Jesus was exactly who He said He was.

I do have to note your incessant obsession with trying to make the whole thing about me. I don't know if you've noticed, but that simply doesn't work and I will continue to make it about Jeshua, God in the flesh.

 

[hadit]

"This, he told me, is the curse which goes out over all the land. For by the writing on one side every thief shall be swept clean away and by the writing on the other side every perjurer shall be swept clean away. I have sent it out, the Lord of hosts has said, and it shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the man who has perjured himself in my name. It shall stay inside that house and demolish it, timbers, and stones, and all." Zechariah 5:3

You'd better check the foundations of your house, just sayin'.

 

[hobelim]

Your narrow mindedness rejects the true option, that Jesus was exactly who He said He was.

Yes Jesus was exactly what he claimed to be, the messiah, the prophet predicted by Moses who would, like Moses, speak with my God "face to face" and would convey all of my God's commands clearly described in Deuteronomy 18:18 as a human being, a Jewish man.

"I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it." (John 12:49) "And I will put MY WORDS into his mouth." (Deut 18:18).

Anyone who claims to be God in the flesh literally is insane. Am I telling you something you didn't already know? What does that say about someone who has the 'faith' to just believe?

Just sayin.

Yet my God is in the flesh of Jesus as long as one understands that flesh is a metaphor for words, hence "the word became flesh", a new metaphor for a new more satisfying revelation from my God that came to Jesus like bread from heaven, teaching from my God, that became his flesh, his teaching, given for the life of the world. Abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of my God on earth the promise for complying with the Laws demands.

 

[hadit]

Yes Jesus was exactly what he claimed to be, the messiah, the prophet predicted by Moses who would, like Moses, speak with my God "face to face" and would convey all of my God's commands clearly described in Deuteronomy 18:18 as a human being, a Jewish man.

Anyone who claims to be God in the flesh literally is insane. Am I telling you something you didn't already know? What does that say about someone who has the 'faith' to just believe?

And He demonstrated it by raising Himself from the dead. No one, and I mean no one, has been able to do that. Here's where you invent something to claim He didn't really come back to life, just something else about Mothra.

Just sayin.

Yet my God is in the flesh of Jesus as long as one understands that flesh is a metaphor for words, hence "the word became flesh", a new metaphor for a new more satisfying revelation from my God that came to Jesus like bread from heaven, teaching from my God, that became his flesh, his teaching, given for the life of the world. Abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of my God on earth the promise for complying with the Laws demands.

And once again you demonstrate that you can't take God at His Word but have to twist it to suit your theology.

 

[hobelim]

And He demonstrated it by raising Himself from the dead. No one, and I mean no one, has been able to do that

Baloney. I personally know of many people who were once lost but now are found, they were dead but have come to life. In fact the resurrected dead are standing all around WATCHING.

You have been diverted by your own unrestrained imagination into a delusional fantasy land.

Enjoy!

 

[hadit]

Baloney. I personally know of many people who were once lost but now are found, they were dead but have come to life. In fact the resurrected dead are standing all around WATCHING.

Names? They should have been pretty famous, climbing out of graves, sitting up in their funerals. You know, stuff that dead people coming back to life tend to do. They should have made at least the second section of the newspaper.

And how many of them did it to themselves?

 

[hobelim]

Names? They should have been pretty famous, climbing out of graves, sitting up in their funerals. You know, stuff that dead people coming back to life tend to do. They should have made at least the second section of the newspaper.

And how many of them did it to themselves?

All of them. As Jesus said to everyone healed by his words, Your faith has made you whole.

No one can clean out the garbage that you have accumulated into your mind as if it was a trashcan except for you. Not God, not Jesus, not your supernatural mangod, the Antichrist.

No matter how many times you say Praise God!, Praise Jesus!, ooh ooh ahh ahh or claim to love him so much as you brazenly defy his Law and openly desecrate the WORDS of Jesus.

 

[hadit]

All of them. As Jesus said to everyone healed by his words, Your faith has made you whole.

No one can clean out the garbage that you have accumulated into your mind as if it was a trashcan except for you. Not God, not Jesus, not your supernatural mangod, the Antichrist.

No matter how many times you say Praise God!, Praise Jesus!, ooh ooh ahh ahh or claim to love him so much as you brazenly defy his Law and openly desecrate the WORDS of Jesus.

You have just said you didn't have any names or examples of anyone who raised themselves from the dead. It would have been simpler.

 

[hobelim]

You have just said you didn't have any names or examples of anyone who raised themselves from the dead. It would have been simpler.

I wish I could give you names but I can't because they are in the witness protection program.

numbskull.

 

[hadit]

I wish I could give you names but I can't because they are in the witness protection program.

numbskull.

IOW, they don't exist and you just made them up. Not surprising, your carefully crafted narrative continues to fall apart, a piece at a time.

 

[hobelim]

IOW, they don't exist and you just made them up. Not surprising, your carefully crafted narrative continues to fall apart, a piece at a time.

Is that what you think is actually happening? How cute! Thats a strong delusion you drinkin




"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done NOTHING to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."


The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Triumph Of YAHWEH, (Of Thanksgiving for Victory (xviii 1-15).

 

[hadit]

Is that what you think is actually happening? How cute! Thats a strong delusion you drinkin




"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done NOTHING to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."


The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Triumph Of YAHWEH, (Of Thanksgiving for Victory (xviii 1-15).

Hey, you're the one that tried that massively feeble attempt at a diversion. You can't even say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is worthy of praise and honor.

 

[hobelim]

Hey, you're the one that tried that massively feeble attempt at a diversion. You can't even say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is worthy of praise and honor.

So let me ask you this. Do you think that God would rather hear people say how awesome and wonderful he is or see them do what he commands? What would glorify him more?

Take your time....

 

[ding]

Is that what you really think is actually happening?

Everyone knows that.

 

[ding]

So let me ask you this. Do you think that God would rather hear people say how awesome and wonderful he is or see them do what he commands? What would glorify him more?

Take your time....

You mean like Leviticus 18:22.

You're a joke.

 

[hobelim]

Everyone knows that.

lol...Says just another lost soul in agony making discordant sounds in the cacophony of hell.

 

[ding]

Hey, you're the one that tried that massively feeble attempt at a diversion. You can't even say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is worthy of praise and honor.

That's because he doesn't.