Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hadit]

The entire bible refutes the claim that a man can be God, like caesar claimed to be a god.

"God is not a man, so he does not lie; he is not human, so he does not change his mind."

Good, good, you're halfway there. The Bible also says that God became man.

 

[hobelim]

He rejects it all.

If you are referring to the maudlin BS story you've swallowed hook line and sinker then yes.

What you don't seem to realize or care about its that every single time you celebrate the death of Jesus in church at Mass as "a perfect human sacrifice" you are celebrating the human sacrifice of an innocent Jewish man, the messiah, to a trinity on the Mithran cross.


Mithraism was the secret MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military.

 

[hadit]

If you are referring to the maudlin BS story you've swallowed hook line and sinker then yes.

What you don't seem to realize or care about its that every single time you celebrate the death of Jesus in church at Mass as "a perfect human sacrifice" you are celebrating the human sacrifice of an innocent Jewish man, the messiah, to a trinity on the Mithran cross.


Mithraism was the secret MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military.

Actually, you're (conveniently) forgetting that they're celebrating the death and RESURRECTION of Christ. Much easier to invent your own gospel when you leave out important things like that.

 

[hobelim]

Actually, you're (conveniently) forgetting that they're celebrating the death and RESURRECTION of Christ.

No, the resurrection is celebrated on easter which is another pagan mithraic holy day. At church you celebrate human sacrifice and eat Jesus in the form of a matzo for spiritual life.

psycho.

Much easier to invent your own gospel when you leave out important things like that.

You mean like leaving out the part that God is Spirit, one, incorporeal, with no visible shape or material form and there is no other god in existence either equal to above or below him which precludes the possibility that God ever became a sacrificial Jewish man or is a trinity?

Damn.

You have confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

Enjoy!

 

[hadit]

No, the resurrection is celebrated on easter which is another pagan mithraic holy day. At church you celebrate human sacrifice and eat Jesus in the form of a matzo for spiritual life.

psycho.

I'm not Catholic. I've told you this before, and the fact that you continue to ignore that is telling.

You mean like leaving out the part that God is Spirit, one, incorporeal, with no visible shape or material form and there is no other god in existence either equal to above or below him which precludes the possibility that God ever became a sacrificial Jewish man or is a trinity?

Damn.

You have confused faith with obstinate stupidity.


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Enjoy!

Oh, I quite enjoy the Scriptures where they tell us that God became man. You have to dodge that, so you invent all kinds of fake theology to get around it.

 

[hobelim]

I'm not Catholic. I've told you this before, and the fact that you continue to ignore that is telling.

So what. Every one of the over 30,000 christian denominations are the bastard child of the Roman church who like a wild beast in heat has mated with every pagan religion on earth.

Do you "believe" that you can sin with impunity for life, because Jesus paid your debt, derp, as long as you worship a trinity that diddled a virgin to become a mangod, the Antichrist?
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Pft.

Oh, I quite enjoy the Scriptures where they tell us that God became man. You have to dodge that, so you invent all kinds of fake theology to get around it.

Nowhere on the OT or NT does it claim that God became an edible man. You are confused.

 

[hadit]

So what. Every one of the over 30,000 christian denominations are the bastard child of the Roman church who like a wild beast in heat has mated with every pagan religion on earth.

Do you "believe" that you can sin with impunity for life, because Jesus paid your debt, derp, as long as you worship a trinity that diddled a virgin to become a mangod, the Antichrist?
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Pft.

No, I don't believe that. No one believes your blasphemous characterization.

Nowhere on the OT or NT does it claim that God became an edible man. You are confused.

And I do not believe I am consuming the blood and flesh of Christ when I celebrate Communion. It is you who is confused. And yes, Scripture tells us God became flesh. You have to ignore it to believe otherwise.

 

[hobelim]

And I do not believe I am consuming the blood and flesh of Christ when I celebrate Communion. It is you who is confused. And yes, Scripture tells us God became flesh. You have to ignore it to believe otherwise.

What scripture tells "us" that God became flesh? And who is "us "anyway? How many of you are there? Why don't y'all believe this clear scripture; "God is not a man, so he does not lie; he is not human so he does not change his mind." Thats what scripture is telling y'all. lol. So you aren't a believer in spite of your distinguished pretensions in worshipping the Antichrist.

What a surprise!

 

[hadit]

What scripture tells "us" that God became flesh? And who is "us "anyway? How many of you are there?

There are millions of us who read and believe the Scriptures say what is written. There is but one of you who invents an entire new scripture that means the complete opposite of what Scripture says.

Why don't y'all believe this clear scripture; "God is not a man, so he does not lie; he is not human so he does not change his mind." Thats what scripture is telling y'all. lol. So you aren't a believer in spite of your distinguished pretensions in worshipping the Antichrist.

What a surprise!

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!"

"9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone."

"16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants.
17 For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted."

"In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs."

"
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

"Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion!
Shout, Daughter Jerusalem!
See, your king comes to you,
righteous and victorious,
lowly and riding on a donkey,
on a colt, the foal of a donkey."

"Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’"

Now you will invent something completely the opposite to pretend none of it means what it clearly says. Not surprising, Satan is a master at lying about, perverting and twisting God's Word to mean something other than what it says. He did that in the Garden, when he planted doubt about God's clear instructions.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus says worship me or burn in hell. Sure thats a god of compassion

No he doesn't

the christian, desert jesus ...

“ But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.“ (Matthew 10:33) ...

does.

- all the phony begins with one person 3000 years ago - the liar abraham.

the true jesus refuted judaism - top to bottom.

 

[BreezeWood]

There is but one of you who invents an entire new scripture that means the complete opposite of what Scripture says.

not true, throughout history and who the desert dwellers have not murdered or tortured ...

to death.

provide the appendix of the documents the crucifiers preserved to verify their 4th century bible.

who entitled them to write such a document as there is nothing left by the individual themself, jesus for any verification's in regards to forgeries, lies and fallacies ... surly they knew would follow their own death.

 

[Hafar1014]

the christian, desert jesus ...



does.

- all the phony begins with one person 3000 years ago - the liar abraham.

the true jesus refuted judaism - top to bottom.

Hell was created to force obedience by threat

 

[ding]

Every page, every phrase, every word of the Bible he translates to mean what he wants it to mean. He's written his own gospel and declares it the truth, even though he is the only one who follows it.

He's got an agenda. He's on a mission. So glad others see it too.

 

[ding]

Hell was created to force obedience by threat

The concept emerged during the Greco-Roman period in Judaism as a way to understand suffering and maintain faith in divine justice. It was a response to oppression where people hoped for retribution against evildoers.

 

[BreezeWood]

Hell was created to force obedience by threat

The concept emerged during the Greco-Roman period in Judaism as a way to understand suffering and maintain faith in divine justice. It was a response to oppression where people hoped for retribution against evildoers.

really -

The Greco-Roman Period refers to the era when ancient Greek culture and Roman power merged, primarily from Alexander the Great's conquests (starting 332 BCE) through the division of the Roman Empire (395 CE) and beyond ...

hell was conceived during a 600 year window against evildooers - by the jews.

* they are the original evildoers their false commandments et al through religion - the reason for the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaism and the subsequent concluding chapter for where the crucifiers are destined is an equally apropo.

 

[Hafar1014]

really -



hell was conceived during a 600 year window against evildooers - by the jews.

* they are the original evildoers their false commandments et al through religion - the reason for the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaism and the subsequent concluding chapter for where the crucifiers are destined is an equally apropo.

There is no Hell in Judaism or a devil. Those are Christian inventions to force obedience under the threat of eternal suffering.

 

[Hafar1014]

The concept emerged during the Greco-Roman period in Judaism as a way to understand suffering and maintain faith in divine justice. It was a response to oppression where people hoped for retribution against evildoers.

There is no Hell in Judaism, no collective guilt or original sin. All Jews and the rest of humanity return to God in the afterlife

 

[ElmerMudd]

elmer he would have a problem with your new party too...

 

[ElmerMudd]

We can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said, though, can't we?

In his own words, his opposition was to the Jews, i.e., the hypocrites, broods of vipers, whitewashed tombs, etc.

His intent was to judge them, to tear down their temple. He was going to drain the swamp.

Yes, he would have supported Trump, I think.

 

[ding]

There is no Hell in Judaism, no collective guilt or original sin. All Jews and the rest of humanity return to God in the afterlife

You can blame the Jews for it.