Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[Hafar1014]

You can blame the Jews for it.

Blame us for this
Since the inception of the Nobel Prize in 1901, individuals of Jewish heritage have won at least 220 out of 965 individual awards, representing roughly 22% of all recipients. This is widely considered disproportionate as Jews constitute only about 0.2% of the global population.

Performance by Category
Jewish laureates have won prizes in all six categories, with the highest concentration in the scientific and economic fields:

• Economics: ~40% of all laureates.
• Physiology or Medicine: ~26% of all laureates.
• Physics: ~24% of all laureates.
• Chemistry: ~19% of all laureates.
• Literature: ~14% of all laureates.
• Peace: ~8–9% of all laureates.

Recent Jewish Nobel Laureates
Several Jewish individuals have been honored in the most recent award cycles:

• Economics (2025): Joel Mokyr was co-awarded the prize for research on how innovation drives long-term economic growth.
• Chemistry (2024): David Baker won for his work in computational protein design.
• Medicine (2024): Gary Ruvkun received the award for the discovery of microRNA.
• Medicine (2023): Drew Weissman was honored for his work enabling the development of effective COVID-19 mRNA vaccines.

Factors Often Cited for This Trend
Researchers and historians often attribute this high achievement to a combination of cultural and historical factors:

• Educational Tradition: A long-standing cultural emphasis on literacy, debate, and lifelong learning, rooted in the religious requirement to study the Torah and other texts.
• Portable Capital: Historically, frequent displacements led Jewish communities to value "human capital" (education and specialized skills) over non-portable assets like land.
• Adaptation to Exclusion: Historical exclusion from traditional landowning or military careers often funneled Jewish talent into fields like medicine, law, and academia.
• Migration of Talent: Significant numbers of elite Jewish scientists relocated to major research hubs in the U.S. and U.K., particularly following the rise of Nazi Germany, which concentrated Jewish intellectual talent in well-funded institutions.

17 sites

• List of Jewish Nobel laureates - Wikipedia
  List of Jewish Nobel laureates. ... Of the 965 individual recipients of the Nobel Prize and the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic S...
  
  
  
  Wikipedia
  
  
  
  
  
  
• 22% of all Nobel Prizes in history belong to the Jewish people ...
  Dec 10, 2025 — 22% of all Nobel Prizes in history belong to the Jewish people! A total of 217 Jews have won the Nobel Prize throughout history...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ·World Zionist Organization - ההסתדרות הציונית העולמית
  
  
  
  
  
  
• The Jewish Legacy and the Nobel Prize
  Mar 26, 2025 — The Jewish Legacy and the Nobel Prize * Jewish Honorees Account for Nearly One in Every Four Laureates. First awarded in 1901 to c...
  
  
  
  guttermansinc.com
  
  
  

Show all

 

[hadit]

Hell was created to force obedience by threat

Hell was created as punishment for the devil and his angels. It was not originally intended for man.

 

[Hafar1014]

Hell was created as punishment for the devil and his angels. It was not originally intended for man.

BS non believers were told that were they will end up if they reject Jesus. Believe in him or else

 

[hadit]

BS non believers were told that were they will end up if they reject Jesus. Believe in him or else

That doesn't change the reason why it was created in the first place.

 

[Hafar1014]

That doesn't change the reason why it was created in the first place.

What other reason could there be. There is no original sin in Genesis. There is no reason to become a Christian unless youre threatened and need a dumbed down concept of God.

 

[BreezeWood]

Hell was created to force obedience by threat

Hell was created as punishment for the devil and his angels. It was not originally intended for man.

- the heavens can not force obedience as all are equal who reside there the disparity is as thunder in a storm and dissipates over time. there is no devil from the heavens.

1st century events recognizes punishment for evildoers will be exacted for exactly the degree of its severity to which redemption may or may not be possible when completed.

 

[Hafar1014]

- the heavens can not force obedience as all are equal who reside there the disparity is as thunder in a storm and dissipates over time. there is no devil from the heavens.

1st century events recognizes punishment for evildoers will be exacted for exactly the degree of its severity to which redemption may or may not be possible when completed.

THats not Christianity. They believe in collective guilt based on original sin which is opposed by Genesis.

 

[BreezeWood]

THats not Christianity. They believe in collective guilt based on original sin which is opposed by Genesis.

a fallacy for the same reason to subject servitude and denial where there is none ...

they also claim, christianity a devil from the heavens sent to the heavenly garden earth as egregious a crime as all their other 4th century claims they use to dispel the 1st century events of liberation theology, self determination and the subsequent crucifixion of their mentor.

 

[hobelim]

Hell was created as punishment for the devil and his angels. It was not originally intended for man.

Says the guy who doesn't have an inkling that he is already in hell.

 

[hobelim]

There are millions of us who read and believe the Scriptures say what is written.
There is but one of you who invents an entire new scripture that means the complete opposite of what Scripture says.

lol. Wrong. Without adding subtracting or changing a single word I have revealed new meaning buried and hidden in plain sight with fantastical stories and well known literary devices that contradict what you already know to be true about reality you phony ****

What I have revealed conforms to and is confirmed by reality and the entirety of the Bible.


Yes, there are millions and billions of people who don't have the intelligence or awareness to realize they are reading a fairy tale even when a crafty talking serpent is introduced.

Fascinating!

And yes, unlike you who claim to be many, I am one as God is one, but what I revealed is irrefutable and irresistible to everyone on earth with a modicum of honesty humility and faith in the healing power of repentance for the sin of trying to mislead others with your maudlin bullshit story defying the Law of God by worshipping a trinity that became a man and desecrating the WORDS of Jesus by turning it into an iniquitous communion ritual for idiots.

You may not realize this but you have exchanged your birthright as an intelligent individual who reflects the image and likeness of one Holy, separate, God by becoming in insignificant pustule on the ass of a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

 

[ding]

Blame us for this

You can blame the Jews for the concept of hell because that's where it started, dumb dumb.

The concept emerged during the Greco-Roman period in Judaism as a way to understand suffering and maintain faith in divine justice. It was a response to oppression where people hoped for retribution against evildoers.

But according to you Jews invented hell to control people.

 

[hadit]

What other reason could there be. There is no original sin in Genesis. There is no reason to become a Christian unless youre threatened and need a dumbed down concept of God.

I already told you why it was created. Did you miss that part or just ignore it because it doesn't fit with your theology?

 

[Hafar1014]

I already told you why it was created. Did you miss that part or just ignore it because it doesn't fit with your theology?

You cant escape the logic. Hell is bad. Refuse Jesus or your not baptized you go to hell. Thats called punishment. You dont understand your own dogma. Hell doesnt fit my moral values

 

[hadit]

lol. Wrong. Without adding subtracting or changing a single word I have revealed new meaning buried and hidden in plain sight with fantastical stories and well known literary devices that contradict what you already know to be true about reality you phony ****

Like I said, every word of Scripture you distort, substitute and pretend.

What I have revealed conforms to and is confirmed by reality and the entirety of the Bible.

No most certainly does not.

Yes, there are millions and billions of people who don't have the intelligence or awareness to realize they are reading a fairy tale even when a crafty talking serpent is introduced.

Fascinating!

And yes, unlike you who claim to be many,

I claim to be one of many, not many in myself. You seem to have missed that part.

I am one as God is one, but what I revealed is irrefutable and irresistible to everyone on earth with a modicum of honesty humility and faith in the healing power of repentance for the sin of trying to mislead others with your maudlin bullshit story defying the Law of God by worshipping a trinity that became a man and desecrating the WORDS of Jesus by turning it into an iniquitous communion ritual for idiots.

You may not realize this but you have exchanged your birthright as an intelligent individual who reflects the image and likeness of one Holy, separate, God by becoming in insignificant pustule on the ass of a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

Like I said, Satan is a master at perverting God's Word. Let me hear you give glory and honor to God, the creator and savior of mankind.

 

[hadit]

You cant escape the logic. Hell is bad. Refuse Jesus or your not baptized you go to hell. Thats called punishment. You dont understand your own dogma. Hell doesnt fit my moral values

You seem to have missed the part where God made a path for mankind to be redeemed to Him, instead being upset that you are given a choice with real consequences.

Tell me this before we go any further, would you have preferred that we not have a choice but be robots programmed to worship God?

 

[Hafar1014]

You seem to have missed the part where God made a path for mankind to be redeemed to Him, instead being upset that you are given a choice with real consequences.

Tell me this before we go any further, would you have preferred that we not have a choice but be robots programmed to worship God?

The flaw in your post is you mean your God. There is no choice when hell is the punishment and your god is the only one. A flawed god as well

 

[hadit]

The flaw in your post is you mean your God. There is no choice when hell is the punishment and your god is the only one. A flawed god as well

You didn't answer the question. Would you prefer to be a robot programmed to worship God and unable to rebel against Him? You've been given a choice and you're complaining that the one you made has some negative consequences.

 

[hobelim]

I claim to be one of many, not many in myself. You seem to have missed that part.

No I didn't miss anything. You consistently express yourself as a we or an us.

Anytime someone expresses themselves in the plural they either thing of themselves as royalty or are speaking for crowd UNAWARE. Either way the prognosis is not good.


Such is the nature of the beast.

Like I said, Satan is a master at perverting God's Word.

I agree! Satan is whatever bastard told you that a trinity became a man so you can sin with impunity for life as long as you celebrate human sacrifice and practice idolatry. Damn.

SUCKER.

Let me hear you give glory and honor to God, the creator and savior of mankind.

By revealing the wisdom of my God hidden in the Law I have transformed the perception of God for people with enough intelligence to put on their pants in the morning from one being that of a a cruel and capricious petty tyrant with the carnal obsessions of diet fashion and the sexual preferences of consenting adults to a loving dedicated and benevolent Father.

Thats how I honor my God, in Spirit and in truth.

Can I get an ooh ooh ahh ahh?

 

[Hafar1014]

You didn't answer the question. Would you prefer to be a robot programmed to worship God and unable to rebel against Him? You've been given a choice and you're complaining that the one you made has some negative consequences.

The robot is your threat of hell. Would you prefer to make free choice or be threatened with hell(robot) when you make the wrong choice.
Heres an example
The Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834) was a powerful judicial institution established by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II and Isabella I to ensure orthodox Catholicism in their kingdoms, primarily by targeting Jewish and Muslim converts (conversos and moriscos) suspected of secretly practicing their former faiths. It operated independently of the Pope under the Spanish Crown, using censorship, secret trials, and torture to combat heresy.
Key Aspects of the Spanish Inquisition:

• Purpose: The main goal was to enforce religious unity and solidify royal power, ensuring doctrinal uniformity across the newly unified Spanish kingdom.
• Targets: While initially focused on conversos(Jewish converts), the Inquisition expanded to include
  moriscos
  (Muslim converts), Protestants, and those accused of heresy or witchcraft
  .
• • Methods & Impact: Investigations involved secret testimony, confiscation of property, and torture. Public punishment, known as auto-de-fé, included imprisonment, exile, or, for the unrepentant, being burned at the stake.
  • Death Toll: Estimates suggest that between 1,000 and 5,000 people were executed, although historical estimates vary, with some suggesting higher numbers (up to 30,000–32,000).

 

[LibertyKid]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

Jesus never sided politically. At least in what we can read in the Gospels.
When the leaders tried to corner Jesus into a political corner, he knew their intent, and told them to give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God, what is God's.

Paul encourages first century Christians to abide within the civil laws of where they live and in Roman's says that all authority is ordained by god.

The old covenant was nationalized within the nation of Israel.
The old covenant is done, gone away with.
Instead of a intercessor, like a high priest, the new covenant is now between God and Man. That is why our bodies are a holy temple beause the holy spirity now can reside in man, and not a man made structure, like the old temple. Which was destroyed in 70 AD.

The idea that God still favors 'nations' is BS and antithesis to the crucifixion of Jesus and the end of the old covenant.