Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[ElmerMudd]

I don't judge people, but I sure wouldn't want to be in any Democrat's shoes upon judgment day. They have a whole lot to answer for.

You are continually judging people.. Every one of your posts is judgemental

 

[ElmerMudd]

I dont know

None of us know for sure but what is your gut feeling

 

[theHawk]

who actually wrote the u s constitution obviously was not a desert dwelling zealot as yourself is what you really mean and are not willing to accept that reality as fact.

- the constitution is a secular document written most likely by a deist and certainly w/ the backing of most founders themselves of similar beliefs in lite of the religious tyranny, christianity they experienced in europe.

^^ there we are with the bullshit.

 

[Mashmont]

You are continually judging people.. Every one of your posts is judgemental

Judging bad actions isn't the same as judging someone's eternal fate. Every single leftwing idea should be judged.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Judging bad actions isn't the same as judging someone's eternal fate. Every single leftwing idea should be judged.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Taking one verse out of context without considering all others.
What does God require of the FOREIGNER? Is He okay with them smuggling in women and children to SELL as sex slaves? To use them to smuggle drugs to murder their hosts? Do we owe them expensive food and hotel at the expense of our own homeless?

The Trump administration is only doing what ANY OTHER NATION would do to those who violate their own immigration laws. Why do you support criminals?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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Why do you insist on calling people who came here ILLEGALLY, "IMMIGRANTS"? I KNOW you're not this stupid. So that means you're DISHONEST

 

[Mac-7]

None of us know for sure but what is your gut feeling

Ghat it was a good shoot

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why do you insist on calling people who came here ILLEGALLY, "IMMIGRANTS"? I KNOW you're not this stupid. So that means you're DISHONEST

Scripture commands equal justice and care, leaving gleanings for the poor and foreigner, and cursing those who withhold justice from them (Leviticus 19:9-10, Deuteronomy 27:19).
Legal or illegal, Jesus tells us to treat all with compassion. Maybe you cannot let all immigrants into your country full time but you should treat them with compassion.
I see no compassion from you. That is blasphemous

 

[dudmuck]

Taking one verse out of context without considering all others.
What does God require of the FOREIGNER? Is He okay with them smuggling in women and children to SELL as sex slaves? To use them to smuggle drugs to murder their hosts? Do we owe them expensive food and hotel at the expense of our own homeless?

The Trump administration is only doing what ANY OTHER NATION would do to those who violate their own immigration laws. Why do you support criminals?

me supporting criminal?
look in the mirror; ice violated 96 court orders.

 

[hobelim]

No, Mary consented to carrying Jesus, just as was foretold in the Old Testament that a virgin would give birth to the messiah.

No, Virginia.

The OT says "a young maiden is with child" and would give birth to the future king Hezekiah.

The NT says that some guy claiming to be the angel Gabriel came to her window, told her he was sent by God to announce that she would give birth to the messiah and she consented. When her parents noticed that she was pregnant they asked, "What man did this!" and she replied, "It wasn't a man it was an angel!" Can you imagine the look on her parents face when she said that? For a woman to conceive she needs 23 chromosomes from a human father. Thats a fact. Another fact is that Temple priests took on the name of angels and considered its a religious duty to pass on their holy seed. What does that tell you? THINK!

You can do it!

 

[ding]

You claim to follow historical Jesus teachings, yet you reject the rest of the New Testament, and reject the Gospels that quote Jesus.

Then you claim he is fictional.

Which is it? Do you follow his teachings or not?

Here’s a test for you, is homosexuality a sin or not?

He rejects it all.

 

[hobelim]

His son was a BASTARD, hie let some other schmuck raise him. He raped the mother of his child and let another guy raise him. The ultimate absentee dad.

Yes, but only if what believers claim is true, and its not. I am always astonished that anyone would worship such a prick - A three for the price of one god raped a bug to become a bug to be killed and eaten by bugs because he loved the bug world so much, blah blah blah.

That being said one of the reasons Jesus was dismissed was because he was the bastard child of some creep who claimed to be an angel taking advantage of a gullible young virgin.

The funny thing is that Jesus did turn out to be the messiah.

 

[theHawk]

No, Virginia.

The OT says "a young maiden is with child" and would give birth to the future king Hezekiah.

The NT says that some guy claiming to be the angel Gabriel came to her window, told her he was sent by God to announce that she would give birth to the messiah and she consented. When her parents noticed that she was pregnant they asked, "What man did this!" and she replied, "It wasn't a man it was an angel!" Can you imagine the look on her parents face when she said that? For a woman to conceive she needs 23 chromosomes from a human father. Thats a fact. Another fact is that Temple priests took on the name of angels and considered its a religious duty to pass on their holy seed. What does that tell you? THINK!

You can do it!

It tells me you’re a moron.

You don’t think the creator of the universe and of life can conceive a body without the male chromosomes? It is by definition a miracle thus defying the conventional laws of the natural world.

 

[hobelim]

You don’t think the creator of the universe and of life can conceive a body without the male chromosomes? It is by definition a miracle thus defying the conventional laws of the natural world.

OK, you either never read the Bible for yourself or never understood it or both.. Either way you have been carried off into fantasy land by your childish, immature, and unrestrained imagination. God who could potentially do anything established things they way they are and have been from the beginning. A woman needs 23 chromosomes from a HUMAN father to conceive and give birth. It wasn't a miracle, rube. It was a HUMAN taking advantage of a gullible Jewish virgin because everyone her age dreamed of giving birth to the Messiah.

Now I know how hard that would be for a believer in the absurd to believe but thats the truth.

A man took advantage of you just like one did the virgin Mary and you lifted your skirt. Perv. You get shafted by a preacher on Sundays, and shafted by Trump daily. Grow up Virginia.

You only have just so much time on earth to do it and you have already wasted most of it.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If you are referring to the maudlin BS story you've swallowed hook line and sinker then yes.

What you don't seem to realize or care about its that every single time you celebrate the death of Jesus in church at Mass as a perfect human sacrifice you are celebrating the human sacrifice of an innocent Jewish man, the messiah, to a trinity on the Mithran cross.


Mithraism was the secret MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military.

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Fully Man and Fully God.








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[Frankenstein]

Jesus says worship me or burn in hell. Sure thats a god of compassion

No he doesn't

 

[Frankenstein]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

He would not be involved in politics

 

[hadit]

I'm not wrong. I just busted your ass in a lie.

You spent several pages telling me what a scoundrel Paul was and how he conspired with Rome. Today you are telling me that a whole bunch of people - which included Paul - had dreams about meeting the risen Christ. You can't have it both ways. Unless of course you are arguing that Paul conspired with the Romans to record what really happened.


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Every page, every phrase, every word of the Bible he translates to mean what he wants it to mean. He's written his own gospel and declares it the truth, even though he is the only one who follows it.

 

[hobelim]

Fully Man and Fully God.

The entire bible refutes the claim that a man can be God, like caesar claimed to be a god.

"God is not a man, so he does not lie; he is not human, so he does not change his mind."