Would Israel exist today without the holoccaust? And moreover...

[louie888]

Why is it that the Palestinians have to suffer the consequences of the nazi atrocities?

Let's face facts. There would be no Israel without the holocaust. The world never would have went for it. Beyond that, because the Jews suffered atrocities at the hands of some Germans in the 1940s, the Palestinians, miles away from any of those atrocities need to suffer the consequences in the present day?

How can anyone in their right mind believe that?

 

[Eloy]

German guilt explains support for Zionism. The English wanted a homeland for the Jews as long as it was not in Europe.
Most others saw Zionists as the underdogs after WWII. This explains much of the European support once enjoyed by the Israelis.
It is a different story with the USA where the Jewish Lobby is very influential.

 

[JoeMoma]

Perhaps not. But the holocost did occur, and Israel does exist. There is no peace for those who want to wipe Isael of the map.

 

[louie888]

Perhaps not. But the holocost did occur,....

Perhaps not? And what role did the zionists play in the Jewish deaths during WWII?

They let Jews die as they demanded, "Only to Palestine."

 

[Hollie]

The conspiracy theory groupies are assembling.

 

[louie888]

The conspiracy theory groupies are assembling.

Not this time, dear. What follows is an historical from our rabbis who were negotiating with the nazis at the time. This was before even one Jew was gassed.

Ten questions to the Zionists
by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

1. 
   
   
   • IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
     a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
     b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
     c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.
   • IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.
   • IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
     a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
     b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.
     c) No ransom will be paid
   • IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.
   • IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.
   • IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).
   • IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.
   • IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"
   • IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.
   • IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.

Much more here: Untitled Document

 

[Indeependent]

German guilt explains support for Zionism. The English wanted a homeland for the Jews as long as it was not in Europe.
Most others saw Zionists as the underdogs after WWII. This explains much of the European support once enjoyed by the Israelis.
It is a different story with the USA where the Jewish Lobby is very influential.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
The only European country that welcomed the Jews was Italy.
Jew hatred didn't stop when the Allied troops showed up.

 

[Indeependent]

The conspiracy theory groupies are assembling.

Not this time, dear. What follows is an historical from our rabbis who were negotiating with the nazis at the time. This was before even one Jew was gassed.

Ten questions to the Zionists
by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

1. 
   
   
   • IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
     a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
     b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
     c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.
   • IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.
   • IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
     a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
     b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.
     c) No ransom will be paid
   • IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.
   • IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.
   • IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).
   • IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.
   • IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"
   • IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.
   • IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.

Much more here: Untitled Document

A complete croc.

 

[montelatici]

Perhaps not. But the holocost did occur, and Israel does exist. There is no peace for those who want to wipe Isael of the map.

Actually there will be no peace for Israel as long as they occupy Palestine.

 

[louie888]

...Jew hatred didn't stop when the Allied troops showed up.

Jew hatred has been around forever. Jews have been thrown out of every country they ever tried to live in. You and your ilk, in here day after day posting your lies, along with Israel's behavior towards the rest of the world, keep Jew hatred alive today. Nice work.

 

[Indeependent]

Perhaps not. But the holocost did occur, and Israel does exist. There is no peace for those who want to wipe Isael of the map.

Actually there will be no peace for Israel as long as they occupy Palestine.

Because life was so wonderful for the Jews in Europe.

 

[louie888]

A complete croc.

Not a complete crock, an historical document of the time from our rabbis.

 

[Indeependent]

...Jew hatred didn't stop when the Allied troops showed up.

Jew hatred has been around forever. Jews have been thrown out of every country they ever tried to live in. You and your ilk, in here day after day posting your lies, along with Israel's behavior towards the rest of the world, keep Jew hatred alive today. Nice work.

Jews are hated; both observant and assimilated.
Because we value human life and education.
Just go ahead and list the toilets that exiled the Jews.

 

[Indeependent]

A complete croc.

Not a complete crock, an historical document of the time from our rabbis.

You named ONE Rabbi and post "rabbis"?

 

[louie888]

Jews are hated; both observant and assimilated.
Because we value human life and education.

OMG, the case breaker! Lmao!

Just go ahead and list the toilets that exiled the Jews.

Expulsions

 

[Hollie]

Jews are hated; both observant and assimilated.
Because we value human life and education.

OMG, the case breaker! Lmao!

Just go ahead and list the toilets that exiled the Jews.

Expulsions

Nonsense.

I was going to assign you a homework task to identify those nations that have expelled the arabs-moslems posing as Pal'istanians. It's a long list. The longer list comprises those arab-moslem nations which treat the Pali' posers as a social, political and economic liability.

 

[louie888]

...Most people are not aware that in March, 1933, when Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany and began restricting the rights of German Jews, the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Garden and called for an American boycott of German goods.


On March 24, 1933, the London Daily Express published an article announcing that the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and described a forthcoming "holy war". The Express urged Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and demonstrate against German economic interests.


The Express said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry....In London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade."


The article went on, "worldwide preparations are being made to organize protest demonstrations."


On March 27, 1933 the planned protest at Madison Square Garden was attended by 40,000 protestors (New York Daily News headlines: "40,000 Roar Protest Here Against Hitler").


Similar rallies and protest marches were also held in other cities. The intensity of the Jewish campaign against Germany was such that the Hitler government vowed that if the campaign did not stop there would be a one-day boycott in Germany of Jewish-owned stores.


Hitler's March 28, 1933 speech ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods was in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.


That same spring of 1933 there began a period of private cooperation between the German government and the Zionist movement in Germany and worldwide to increase the flow of German-Jewish immigrants and capital to Palestine.


Growing anti-Semitism in Germany and by the German government in response to the boycott played into the hands of the Zionist leaders. Prior to the escalation of anti-Semitism as a result of the boycott the majority of German Jews had little sympathy for the Zionist cause of promoting the immigration of world Jewry to Palestine. Making the situation in Germany as uncomfortable for the Jews as possible, in cooperation with German National Socialism, was part of the Zionist plan to achieve their goal of populating Palestine with a Jewish majority.

"For all intents and purposes, the National Socialist government was the best thing to happen to Zionism in its history, for it "proved" to many Jews that Europeans were irredeemably anti-Jewish and that Palestine was the only answer: Zionism came to represent the overwhelming majority of Jews solely by trickery and cooperation with Adolf Hitler."

Zionism and Anti-Semitism | True Torah Jews

 

[Hollie]

...Most people are not aware that in March, 1933, when Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany and began restricting the rights of German Jews, the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Garden and called for an American boycott of German goods.


On March 24, 1933, the London Daily Express published an article announcing that the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and described a forthcoming "holy war". The Express urged Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and demonstrate against German economic interests.


The Express said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry....In London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade."


The article went on, "worldwide preparations are being made to organize protest demonstrations."


On March 27, 1933 the planned protest at Madison Square Garden was attended by 40,000 protestors (New York Daily News headlines: "40,000 Roar Protest Here Against Hitler").


Similar rallies and protest marches were also held in other cities. The intensity of the Jewish campaign against Germany was such that the Hitler government vowed that if the campaign did not stop there would be a one-day boycott in Germany of Jewish-owned stores.


Hitler's March 28, 1933 speech ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods was in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.


That same spring of 1933 there began a period of private cooperation between the German government and the Zionist movement in Germany and worldwide to increase the flow of German-Jewish immigrants and capital to Palestine.


Growing anti-Semitism in Germany and by the German government in response to the boycott played into the hands of the Zionist leaders. Prior to the escalation of anti-Semitism as a result of the boycott the majority of German Jews had little sympathy for the Zionist cause of promoting the immigration of world Jewry to Palestine. Making the situation in Germany as uncomfortable for the Jews as possible, in cooperation with German National Socialism, was part of the Zionist plan to achieve their goal of populating Palestine with a Jewish majority.

"For all intents and purposes, the National Socialist government was the best thing to happen to Zionism in its history, for it "proved" to many Jews that Europeans were irredeemably anti-Jewish and that Palestine was the only answer: Zionism came to represent the overwhelming majority of Jews solely by trickery and cooperation with Adolf Hitler."

Zionism and Anti-Semitism | True Torah Jews

All of that long, tedious cutting and pasting has been cut and pasted before. There is a reason it was dismissed as pointless and timewasting.

Do a search and see if you can enable a bit of self-discovery.

 

[louie888]

Try responding to the incontrovertible truth that the zionists colluded with Hitler, with the fate of the European Jews hanging in the balance, and you support this scum today.

 

[Hollie]

Try responding to the incontrovertible truth that the zionists colluded with Hitler, with the fate of the European Jews hanging in the balance, and you support this scum today.

That was a lot of your usual bluster and as usual, a waste of bandwidth.