What should be the borders of Israel and Palestine?

[Dayton3]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

 

[AZrailwhale]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

The Palestinians already have their own country, it's called Jordan. The League of Nations intended the rest to belong to the Jews. Then the Brits cut it up into small chunks that intermixed Jews and Muslims.

 

[Dadoalex]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

In all seriousity...

Wipe out all the Mosques, Synagogues, and Churches
Imprison or kill all the religious leaders on all sides
Forbid the teaching or preaching of any religion
Then just erase those imaginary lines.

 

[Synthaholic]

Israel should just be a state of mind.

 

[Failzero]

In all seriousity...

Wipe out all the Mosques, Synagogues, and Churches
Imprison or kill all the religious leaders on all sides
Forbid the teaching or preaching of any religion
Then just erase those imaginary lines.

Spoken like a true Marxist

 

[Samofvt]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

The Palestinians HAVE had their own country for the past 70 or 80 years. What did they do with it: They promoted a terrorist organization that uses their own for suicide bombers. They promoted a terrorist organization that conducted brutal attacks across the border into Israel, killing over a thousand innocent men, women, and children. They promoted a terrorist organization that took hostages for no apparent reason other than to inflict pain.

There will never again be a separate Palestiniane state, and you better get used to it.

Those Palestinians of good will and character seem to be welcome in the new reality.

 

[Dadoalex]

Spoken like a true Marxist

That you think that borders have anything to do with economic theory clearly demonstrates your ignorance of the topic.

 

[Lisa558]

Spoken like a true Marxist

….or today’s anti-religion Democrat. Same thing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

Lots of room in Syria for Palestine.
I hear Iran is very nice.
And they wouldn't have to listen to those pesky Jews.

 

[Shusha]

Assume that all of us can agree that ultimately

1) The Palestinians should have their own country.
2) Israel should have defensible borders.

With those two conditions what should be the borders of the two nations? You can rule out the pre 1967 borders as those borders reduce Israel to such a narrow strip (14 miles IIRC near Tel Aviv) that the country would be basically indefensible

I'm not sure those two conditions are compatible any longer. Israel's defensible borders depend on limiting access to weapons across third-party borders. This seems to necessitate a Palestinian State entirely enclosed by Israel. There are examples of this is the world. It is possible (San Marino, as one example). But it seems unlikely to be a workable solution for Palestine as it would simply lead to more cries of continued "occupation" and calls for "resistance".

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Jews have identified as Jews for 3000 years. In 1948, they got a state to call their own.

Palestinians have identified as "Palestinian" for a bit less than 60 years.

I figure they will be ready for a state of their own some time around the fifty second century.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Palestinians can emigrate to Jordan or Egypt or whever.

Greater Israel will always be
From the river to the shining sea.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What should be the borders of Israel and Palestine?​

Who really cares. Majority of Americans have no interests over there.

fuck em all

 

[ElmerMudd]

The Palestinians already have their own country, it's called Jordan. The League of Nations intended the rest to belong to the Jews. Then the Brits cut it up into small chunks that intermixed Jews and Muslims.

Isreal was established in the 1940's based on the area was their home land 2000 years ago.
A good argument.
Based on the logic American Indians should have rights to the USA. It was their homeland 2000 years ago.

 

[Dayton3]

Isreal was established in the 1940's based on the area was their home land 2000 years ago.
A good argument.
Based on the logic American Indians should have rights to the USA. It was their homeland 2000 years ago.

Prove it.

 

[Shusha]

Isreal was established in the 1940's based on the area was their home land 2000 years ago.
A good argument.
Based on the logic American Indians should have rights to the USA. It was their homeland 2000 years ago.

Yes. Exactly. Indigenous peoples should have sovereignty over at least part of their own land.

 

[Dayton3]

Yes. Exactly. Indigenous peoples should have sovereignty over at least part of their own land.

why?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

why?

why not?

 

[Dayton3]

why not?

don't answer a question with a question

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

why not?