Would Israel exist today without the holoccaust? And moreover...

[Hollie]

...Did you know that this is absolute bullshit?

My father, son of survivors, never saw a penny, nither did my uncle.

But who cares for facts when you can make stuff up.?

Maybe, maybe not as you lie constantly here, but if true, this is how Finklestein explains it on page 167 his book posted above...

...the pretexts invoked by the Holocaust industry to force a non-recoupable settlement on the Swiss banks were false, and that few actual survivors of the Nazi holocaust will directly - or, for that matter, indirectly benefit from the Swiss monies. A comparable analysis of other Holocaust industry settlements would presumably yield comparable results. Indeed, buried in the details of the Gribetz Plan is a nest egg for the Holocaust industry. Most of the Swiss monies probably won't be distributed until after all but a handful of survivors are dead.

With the survivors gone, the monies will pour into the coffers of Jewish organizations. Small wonder that the Holocaust industry was unanimous in its praise of the Gribetz Plan.

The Holocaust Industry - Interview with Norman Finkelstein (2002)

Your friend Norman profits from book sales on the very industry he claims exists.

He has additional additional YouTube videos referencing his books. I want you to cut and paste all those YouTube videos.

 

[Hollie]

It turns out that artists have had a field day with this topic:

More cartoons, please. You need additional activities.

 

[louie888]

...Did you know that this is absolute bullshit?

My father, son of survivors, never saw a penny, nither did my uncle.

But who cares for facts when you can make stuff up.?

Maybe, maybe not as you lie constantly here, but if true, this is how Finklestein explains it on page 167 his book posted above...

...the pretexts invoked by the Holocaust industry to force a non-recoupable settlement on the Swiss banks were false, and that few actual survivors of the Nazi holocaust will directly - or, for that matter, indirectly benefit from the Swiss monies. A comparable analysis of other Holocaust industry settlements would presumably yield comparable results. Indeed, buried in the details of the Gribetz Plan is a nest egg for the Holocaust industry. Most of the Swiss monies probably won't be distributed until after all but a handful of survivors are dead.

With the survivors gone, the monies will pour into the coffers of Jewish organizations. Small wonder that the Holocaust industry was unanimous in its praise of the Gribetz Plan.

The Holocaust Industry - Interview with Norman Finkelstein (2002)

Your friend Norman profits from book sales on the very industry he claims exists.

He has additional additional YouTube videos referencing his books. I want you to cut and paste all those YouTube videos.

Oh, speaking of profits...

 

[ForeverYoung436]

...Did you know that this is absolute bullshit?

My father, son of survivors, never saw a penny, nither did my uncle.

But who cares for facts when you can make stuff up.?

Maybe, maybe not as you lie constantly here, but if true, this is how Finklestein explains it on page 167 his book posted above...

...the pretexts invoked by the Holocaust industry to force a non-recoupable settlement on the Swiss banks were false, and that few actual survivors of the Nazi holocaust will directly - or, for that matter, indirectly benefit from the Swiss monies. A comparable analysis of other Holocaust industry settlements would presumably yield comparable results. Indeed, buried in the details of the Gribetz Plan is a nest egg for the Holocaust industry. Most of the Swiss monies probably won't be distributed until after all but a handful of survivors are dead.

With the survivors gone, the monies will pour into the coffers of Jewish organizations. Small wonder that the Holocaust industry was unanimous in its praise of the Gribetz Plan.

The Holocaust Industry - Interview with Norman Finkelstein (2002)

Your friend Norman profits from book sales on the very industry he claims exists.

He has additional additional YouTube videos referencing his books. I want you to cut and paste all those YouTube videos.

Oh, speaking of profits...

I've never encountered such a despicable self-hating Jew such as you. Posting these things do a disservice to all those who died in the Holocaust, including members of my own family.

 

[louie888]

...Did you know that this is absolute bullshit?

My father, son of survivors, never saw a penny, nither did my uncle.

But who cares for facts when you can make stuff up.?

Maybe, maybe not as you lie constantly here, but if true, this is how Finklestein explains it on page 167 his book posted above...

...the pretexts invoked by the Holocaust industry to force a non-recoupable settlement on the Swiss banks were false, and that few actual survivors of the Nazi holocaust will directly - or, for that matter, indirectly benefit from the Swiss monies. A comparable analysis of other Holocaust industry settlements would presumably yield comparable results. Indeed, buried in the details of the Gribetz Plan is a nest egg for the Holocaust industry. Most of the Swiss monies probably won't be distributed until after all but a handful of survivors are dead.

With the survivors gone, the monies will pour into the coffers of Jewish organizations. Small wonder that the Holocaust industry was unanimous in its praise of the Gribetz Plan.

The Holocaust Industry - Interview with Norman Finkelstein (2002)

Your friend Norman profits from book sales on the very industry he claims exists.

He has additional additional YouTube videos referencing his books. I want you to cut and paste all those YouTube videos.

Oh, speaking of profits...

I've never encountered such a despicable self-hating Jew such as you. Posting these things do a disservice to all those who died in the Holocaust, including members of my own family.

So typical of your ilk...

 

[esthermoon]

Maybe Israel would exist anyway without the holocaust...perhaps in a different place.
I read some Jewish intellectuals wanted a country for all Jewish but not in the Middle East (I've heard something about Uganda or South America)

 

[GHook93]

Why is it that the Palestinians have to suffer the consequences of the nazi atrocities?

Let's face facts. There would be no Israel without the holocaust. The world never would have went for it. Beyond that, because the Jews suffered atrocities at the hands of some Germans in the 1940s, the Palestinians, miles away from any of those atrocities need to suffer the consequences in the present day?

How can anyone in their right mind believe that?

Absolutely. Israel territory was at is lowest population in the 1800s. Nevertheless Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. Tel Aviv was founded in 1909. The Jews were coming home since the 1800s.

During the 1800s Arabs were the majority overall, but the lands were sparsely populated and not in Jerusalem.

The vast vast vast majority of Arabs came over during the 1919-1945 to the land when the British governed the land. They banned Jewish coming home, but allowed unmolested immigration to Arabs. And the Arabs came because the Jews were building a flower in the desert.

So take your self-righteous antisemite and shove it up your cock sucking Muslim ass!


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[montelatici]

Why is it that the Palestinians have to suffer the consequences of the nazi atrocities?

Let's face facts. There would be no Israel without the holocaust. The world never would have went for it. Beyond that, because the Jews suffered atrocities at the hands of some Germans in the 1940s, the Palestinians, miles away from any of those atrocities need to suffer the consequences in the present day?

How can anyone in their right mind believe that?

Absolutely. Israel territory was at is lowest population in the 1800s. Nevertheless Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. Tel Aviv was founded in 1909. The Jews were coming home since the 1800s.

During the 1800s Arabs were the majority overall, but the lands were sparsely populated and not in Jerusalem.

The vast vast vast majority of Arabs came over during the 1919-1945 to the land when the British governed the land. They banned Jewish coming home, but allowed unmolested immigration to Arabs. And the Arabs came because the Jews were building a flower in the desert.

So take your self-righteous antisemite and shove it up your cock sucking Muslim ass!


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You are parotting propaganda and lies.

The European colonists did begin to arrive in the mid 1800s, but prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews (mostly Arab Jews) in all of Palestine. This is confirmed in the first report of the British Mandatory in 1921.

"Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants...The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Jerusalem did not have Jewish majority until the late 1800s as a result of the arrival of tens of thousands of colonists. The Turkish census circa mid-century showed that there were only a few thousand Jews, around 8000, in the whole of the Jerusalem district (Kudus Special District).

Ottoman Population Records and the Census of 1881/82-1893 on JSTOR


No, there was little immigration of Muslims or Christians to Palestine between 1919-1945. In fact, male Muslims and Christians from Palestine moved in large numbers to Egypt to find work where the British infrasturcture was far larger and included substantial work opportunities associated with the management and maintenance of the Suez Canal. For example, Arafat, was born in Egypt because his father (a Palestinian) had immigrated to Egypt to find work.

There are official records of the immigration into Palestine but not emigration. The immigration record is clear. Between 1920 to 1946 the Europeans (Jews) were 376,415 of the total 414,415 immigrants to Palestine as reported in the Survey of Palestine Vol. 1.

A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

There is actual documentary film evidence of Palestine from 1896, quite revealing.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Why is it that the Palestinians have to suffer the consequences of the nazi atrocities?

Let's face facts. There would be no Israel without the holocaust. The world never would have went for it. Beyond that, because the Jews suffered atrocities at the hands of some Germans in the 1940s, the Palestinians, miles away from any of those atrocities need to suffer the consequences in the present day?

How can anyone in their right mind believe that?

Absolutely. Israel territory was at is lowest population in the 1800s. Nevertheless Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. Tel Aviv was founded in 1909. The Jews were coming home since the 1800s.

During the 1800s Arabs were the majority overall, but the lands were sparsely populated and not in Jerusalem.

The vast vast vast majority of Arabs came over during the 1919-1945 to the land when the British governed the land. They banned Jewish coming home, but allowed unmolested immigration to Arabs. And the Arabs came because the Jews were building a flower in the desert.

So take your self-righteous antisemite and shove it up your cock sucking Muslim ass!


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You are parotting propaganda and lies.

The European colonists did begin to arrive in the mid 1800s, but prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews (mostly Arab Jews) in all of Palestine. This is confirmed in the first report of the British Mandatory in 1921.

"Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants...The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Jerusalem did not have Jewish majority until the late 1800s as a result of the arrival of tens of thousands of colonists. The Turkish census circa mid-century showed that there were only a few thousand Jews, around 8000, in the whole of the Jerusalem district (Kudus Special District).

View attachment 122591

Ottoman Population Records and the Census of 1881/82-1893 on JSTOR


No, there was little immigration of Muslims or Christians to Palestine between 1919-1945. In fact, male Muslims and Christians from Palestine moved in large numbers to Egypt to find work where the British infrasturcture was far larger and included substantial work opportunities associated with the management and maintenance of the Suez Canal. For example, Arafat, was born in Egypt because his father (a Palestinian) had immigrated to Egypt to find work.

There are official records of the immigration into Palestine but not emigration. The immigration record is clear. Between 1920 to 1946 the Europeans (Jews) were 376,415 of the total 414,415 immigrants to Palestine as reported in the Survey of Palestine Vol. 1.

View attachment 122594

A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

There is actual documentary film evidence of Palestine from 1896, quite revealing.

If Arafart was born in Egypt, then he was Egyptian. Just like anyone born in America is an "anchor baby", and has automatic American citizenship.

 

[montelatici]

Why is it that the Palestinians have to suffer the consequences of the nazi atrocities?

Let's face facts. There would be no Israel without the holocaust. The world never would have went for it. Beyond that, because the Jews suffered atrocities at the hands of some Germans in the 1940s, the Palestinians, miles away from any of those atrocities need to suffer the consequences in the present day?

How can anyone in their right mind believe that?

Absolutely. Israel territory was at is lowest population in the 1800s. Nevertheless Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. Tel Aviv was founded in 1909. The Jews were coming home since the 1800s.

During the 1800s Arabs were the majority overall, but the lands were sparsely populated and not in Jerusalem.

The vast vast vast majority of Arabs came over during the 1919-1945 to the land when the British governed the land. They banned Jewish coming home, but allowed unmolested immigration to Arabs. And the Arabs came because the Jews were building a flower in the desert.

So take your self-righteous antisemite and shove it up your cock sucking Muslim ass!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

You are parotting propaganda and lies.

The European colonists did begin to arrive in the mid 1800s, but prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews (mostly Arab Jews) in all of Palestine. This is confirmed in the first report of the British Mandatory in 1921.

"Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants...The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "
Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Jerusalem did not have Jewish majority until the late 1800s as a result of the arrival of tens of thousands of colonists. The Turkish census circa mid-century showed that there were only a few thousand Jews, around 8000, in the whole of the Jerusalem district (Kudus Special District).

View attachment 122591

Ottoman Population Records and the Census of 1881/82-1893 on JSTOR


No, there was little immigration of Muslims or Christians to Palestine between 1919-1945. In fact, male Muslims and Christians from Palestine moved in large numbers to Egypt to find work where the British infrasturcture was far larger and included substantial work opportunities associated with the management and maintenance of the Suez Canal. For example, Arafat, was born in Egypt because his father (a Palestinian) had immigrated to Egypt to find work.

There are official records of the immigration into Palestine but not emigration. The immigration record is clear. Between 1920 to 1946 the Europeans (Jews) were 376,415 of the total 414,415 immigrants to Palestine as reported in the Survey of Palestine Vol. 1.

View attachment 122594

A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

There is actual documentary film evidence of Palestine from 1896, quite revealing.

If Arafart was born in Egypt, then he was Egyptian. Just like anyone born in America is an "anchor baby", and has automatic American citizenship.

No Egypt, like most Arab and most European countries have jus sanguinis. The U.S. is one of the few countries that use jus soli for citizenship.

 

[louie888]

You have no idea what you're talking about....

Ah, but I do. Your beloved zionists collaborated directly with the nazis to create Israel.

...the collaboration in the 1930s between Zionist leaders and Nazi apparatchiks, like Eichmann, is a historical fact...

So good were the relations between the Zionist movement and the Nazis that after the Head of the Jewish Desk at the Gestapo, Baron von Mildenstein went to Palestine for 6 months in 1933, at the invitation of the Labour Zionist movement, they struck a medal in celebration of their good relations...

...Ben Gurion argued that in any conflict of interest between saving individual Jews and the good of the Zionist enterprise, the enterprise must come first. Consequently the Zionist leadership opposed the Kindertransport which brought 10,000 German Jewish children to England....

There is so much more here...'
Is Zionism Antisemitic?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have no idea what you're talking about....

Ah, but I do. Your beloved zionists collaborated directly with the nazis to create Israel.

...the collaboration in the 1930s between Zionist leaders and Nazi apparatchiks, like Eichmann, is a historical fact...

So good were the relations between the Zionist movement and the Nazis that after the Head of the Jewish Desk at the Gestapo, Baron von Mildenstein went to Palestine for 6 months in 1933, at the invitation of the Labour Zionist movement, they struck a medal in celebration of their good relations...

View attachment 123118

...Ben Gurion argued that in any conflict of interest between saving individual Jews and the good of the Zionist enterprise, the enterprise must come first. Consequently the Zionist leadership opposed the Kindertransport which brought 10,000 German Jewish children to England....

There is so much more here...'
Is Zionism Antisemitic?

they struck a medal in celebration of their good relations...

Wow! A Nazi medal struck by Nazis!
Very persuasive.

 

[louie888]

...Wow! A Nazi medal struck by Nazis!
Very persuasive.

I agree, the zionists and the nazis are literally two sides of the same coin. And it continues today in the holy land.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

...Wow! A Nazi medal struck by Nazis!
Very persuasive.

I agree, the zionists and the nazis are literally two sides of the same coin. And it continues today in the holy land.

Yes, a Nazi coin struck by Nazis is proof that........you're an idiot.
Other than that....it's meaningless.

 

[Ringo]

What people don't realize is the reason why the Holocaust is more recognized, than other genocides is because the Red Army preserved the evidence and Stalin insisted on Nuremberg.
The British East India company dumped their sins into the Indian ocean.