Would anyone like to discuss this remnant of a falsehood?

That’s a pretty big leap that begins with an error.

You don’t know that he knew anything about the specifics of his son’s dealings with Burisma
Who said anything about specifics. We’re just talking in general. Joe said he had he never talked to his son about his business dealings. So, we need to break down whether that means he had no knowledge or just that he never talked about it.

I submit this for review:


Joe Biden exchanged emails with his son Hunter’s business associate 54 times while he was serving as vice president, and some of the messages were sent around the time the elder Biden was traveling to Ukraine and his son was working for a Ukrainian gas company, according to records released by House Republicans.

A White House spokesperson declined to comment but pointed to statements by House Democrats that Hunter Biden’s business associate, Eric Schwerin, worked as Joe Biden’s financial adviser from 2009 to 2017 and helped him file his tax returns

All told, then-Vice President Biden emailed Schwerin 35 times before and after his 2014 trips to Ukraine. Five emails were exchanged just prior to a trip by Vice President Biden to Ukraine on June 7, 2014, and 27 emails were sent from the end of June to a second trip to Ukraine by Biden on Nov. 21, 2014.


The bulk of the communication occurred in the lead-up to and following an agreement for Hunter Biden to serve on the board of the Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma.

Now, come on, they say he had no dealings? We have communications with his financial advisers up to and after his trips to Ukraine and his son getting hired on the board of burisma. Coincidence? Really?
 
The corrupt DOJ and FBI have run interference on the investigation of the Biden Crime Family. We'll finally see the evidence that has been hidden when Trump fires the Democrat operatives covering for Greedy Joe.
Ah yes. "Just you wait, it's all going to come out."

Where have I heard that claim before? Now I remember, John Durham was going to blow the lid off the whole corrupt cabal. Until he didn't. Until his investigation became a pathetic joke.

Did Durham's face plant change anything about what trumples believe? Of course not. Because their beliefs do not require facts to sustain them.
 
This is always what happens in the end. You are forced to deny the irrefutable facts thrown in your face. Tellingly, you don't even make an attempt at refutation.

In scurrying away from this thread, utterly defeated, you will no doubt still believe all the lies you believed when you began the process of humiliating yourself in a failed effort to defend them.
You are the one denying the facts and evidence.

Going so far as claiming the laptop wasn’t even real and russian propaganda.

It’s comical
 
Who said anything about specifics. We’re just talking in general. Joe said he had he never talked to his son about his business dealings. So, we need to break down whether that means he had no knowledge or just that he never talked about it.

I submit this for review:











Now, come on, they say he had no dealings? We have communications with his financial advisers up to and after his trips to Ukraine and his son getting hired on the board of burisma. Coincidence? Really?
From your linked article, here's something you forgot ;) to include..........

The bulk of the communication occurred in the lead-up to and following an agreement for Hunter Biden to serve on the board of the Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma.

Earlier this year, Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said in a news release that Schwerin told House Ways and Means Committee staff in a March interview that the elder Biden was not involved in the business of his son or any of his relatives.

Raskin said Schwerin stated that “he was not aware of any involvement by President Biden in the financial conduct of the President’s relatives’ businesses, much less any transactions into or out of the then-vice president’s bank account related to business conducted by any Biden family member.”


Hunter Biden business associate tells House Oversight Committee GOP allegations are 'preposterous'


Hunter Biden business associate tells House Oversight Committee GOP allegations are 'preposterous'

A Hunter Biden business partner, Eric Schwerin, has told a House panel he's "not aware of any financial transactions" then-VP Joe Biden received from any family business.
abcnews.go.com
abcnews.go.com

A longtime business partner of Hunter Biden, Eric Schwerin, said in a closed-door interview Tuesday with members of the House Oversight Committee that he is "not aware of any financial transactions or compensation" that then-Vice President Joe Biden received related to business conducted by this family members, calling the allegations "preposterous," according to Schwerin's opening statement obtained by ABC News.
 
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Quid Pro Joe.

I still see it being used here by the usual culprits. Its reference is not unique in the sense that many lies fabricated by the enormously influential right wing sound machine live on after being thoroughly debunked. Far too many to recount. In this particular instance, aided greatly by The Crazy in the House. Gym Jordan and James Comer were is always in the thick of it.

To those of you who use QPJ due to manufactured fables involving the "Big Guy" or other such nonsense.............

Dissecting GOP claims about Hunter Biden deals allegedly involving his father


— Comer, at the news conference
The phrase “evidence suggests” is doing a lot of work here. Comer is referring to a single email — dated May 13, 2017 — whose meaning has been under dispute. In the hard-drive copy of the laptop obtained by The Washington Post, the email lacked digital information that allowed it to be verified.
The Washington Post, in its reporting, cites only materials from the laptop that the security experts were able to verify or can be confirmed elsewhere. Politico reporter Ben Schreckinger, in his 2021 book “The Bidens,” said the email had been verified as authentic by “a person with independent access to Hunter’s emails.”

The 2017 email described possible ownership stakes for five partners, including Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim Biden, in a planned venture with CEFC, the Chinese company. The entity was to be called Oneida Holdings LLC.

James Gilliar, a business associate summarizing the allocation of the equity in Oneida Holdings LLC., in the email, wrote how four partners would get 20 percent each, except for Jim Biden, who would get 10 percent. He added a question: “10 held by H for the big guy?” One of the recipients of the mail, Anthony Bobulinski, has said that the “big guy” referred to Joe Biden and that “H” referred to Hunter. Bobulinski was a guest of Trump at one of the 2020 presidential debates.
But Gilliar told the Wall Street Journal in 2020: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”


Three days after the email was sent, a draft agreement setting up Oneida was circulated. It shows each partner would receive 20 percent, including Jim Biden. No mention is made of Joe Biden. The company agreement signed on May 22, 2017, had the same allocation. Oneida was to hold 50 percent of another corporate entity called SinoHawk. Neither Gilliar nor James Biden responded to requests for comment.

The Wall Street Journal said that it had reviewed corporate records and found no role for Joe Biden. The Washington Post, in an extensive report on the CEFC dealings, also did not find evidence that Joe Biden personally benefited from or knew details about the transactions with CEFC. The Biden campaign at the time denied he had any role.
Comer says that this deal involved natural gas, but he appears to be referring to a different transaction, described below. There is no evidence this particular deal concerned natural gas.

Collins said Comer had not made a mistake. “Committee Republicans have evidence the Bidens’ deal with CEFC — a company closely affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party — was changed when the Bidens cut out their Western partners of SinoHawk to keep the business in the family,” she said. Asked to provide the evidence, she would only say it was “based on whistleblower information provided to Committee Republicans.”

In an Oct. 13 letter to FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said that an FBI summary of an interview with Bobulinski revealed that the deal was intended to pay the partners for deals that had “remained intentionally uncompensated while Joe Biden was Vice President.” The venture failed but, in a separate arrangement, Hunter and Jim Biden received nearly $5 million from CEFC, Grassley noted.


.........I ask you this. Has it occurred to you yet that the entire made up "Joe was on the take" story was created as a counter narrative to things like this?

Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports


Trump poised to run out political clock on emoluments suits


Karl Rove, the mastermind behind Shrub's campaigns, was known for taking a weakness his candidate had and making it a weakness for his opponent. Hence the Swift Boat liars for Bush was invented.

For trump backers, it was intolerable to have a candidate who stole money from a charity, defrauded students who paid to attend his joke of a real estate school, ripped off small contractors working on his properties, and declared multiple bankruptcies while leaving investors in his casinos holding the bag.

Just as it was intolerable for trump's record of serial sexual abuse to be out there without a distraction. Hence, Pedo Joe.

And finally, the big daddy of all the counter narratives. The entire nation's system of justice, even citizens called to sit on grand juries, were part of an orchestrated, all encompassing, pervasive conspiracy to get poor Don. In reality, the whole enterprise being designed to keep trumples from closely examining the publicly available, overwhelming evidence of his guilt. Or getting them to dismiss the evidence for being motivated, as the fatuous claim goes, by bias.
Sure a lt of words to say u r a victim of tds.
 
You are the one denying the facts and evidence.

Going so far as claiming the laptop wasn’t even real and russian propaganda.

It’s comical
It's sad that you have to try to cover your tracks by bringing up a subject having nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about the lack of evidence proving Joe Biden committed an impeachable offense related to taking bribes from foreign countries. And, about how accusations about bribes were created as a counter narrative to deflect from trump's wrongdoing. BTW, I have made no such claims about the laptop.
 
It's sad that you have to try to cover your tracks by bringing up a subject having nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about the lack of evidence proving Joe Biden committed an impeachable offense related to taking bribes from foreign countries. And, about how accusations about bribes were created as a counter narrative to deflect from trump's wrongdoing. BTW, I have made no such claims about the laptop.
The laptop has a lot to do with the thread. We are talking about the xiden family criminal cartel

The laptop provided a lot of evidence
 
We are talking about the xiden family criminal cartel
That's what you are talking about.........WITHOUT EVIDENCE. That is, none of the authenticated e-mails on the laptop implicate Joe Biden in any wrongdoing.

You continue to humiliate yourself.
 
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haha keep ignoring the evidence. Fine

Crazy stuff
We've been through this before. Claiming the Moon is made of green cheese is an unsubstantiated assertion, not evidence. The mere presence of e-mails on Hunter's laptop is proof of nothing regarding your assertion........that Joe Biden is corrupt.
 
Yeah sure, right, project
Do you folks do anything but make unsubstantiated allegations? Do you have proof of anything you believe in? Anything?
 
We've been through this before. Claiming the Moon is made of green cheese is an unsubstantiated assertion, not evidence. The mere presence of e-mails on Hunter's laptop is proof of nothing regarding your assertion........that Joe Biden is corrupt.
Nobody is claiming anything about the moon.

Weirdo

Nobody is claiming the mere fact that hunter has emails is evidence

Weird
 
Do you folks do anything but make unsubstantiated allegations? Do you have proof of anything you believe in? Anything?
Double down on projection, color me not surprised....
 
I think most everybody recognized Joe's son and brother were trying to make money off of Joe's position in government. It was despicable. But the essential point is there was no evidence Joe was involved.
Other than the phone calls to the various business leaders you meant to say.
 
To smear him. They had ample opportunity to vote to impeach before he dropped out.

They always knew impeachment would fail because they had no evidence. Don't you get it? It's about creating a smear campaign that feeds nonsense to the rubes who are hungry to consume it. Explaining why they shifted from lies about Joe to lies about Harris fucking her way to the top.

Dems just proved that you don't evidence ie trumps two impeachments. However, Rs are spineless so Im not surprised.
 

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