Women and gun safety around children...

[JoeB131]

I understand. You know, there was another study recently that as very similar. It found that those who use automobiles for transportation are 43x more likely to be involved in an automobile accident.

The thing is, we can outlaw guns and be just fine. We could live in a gun free society. The Japanese, Germans, Italians, British, French already do it.

Cars, not so much.

But, hey, I'd be happy to regulate guns the way we regulate cars. Lots and lots of restrictions, licensing, background checks, mandatory insurance, and thousands of police to enforce what people are doing with them.

Oh, oh, this is the part where you whine loudly, "But the Founding Fathers said we could have guns!!!!!"

 

[JoeB131]

2013...35,000 car deaths...I guess we will see you protesting the existence of cars.....right, moron?

again, I would be happy to regulate guns the way we regulate cars. I don't think you'd be happy and we'd hear a lot of whining about how some guy in a powdered wig who shit in a chamber pot and raped his slaves wanted us to have guns. (Not his slaves, obviously.)

 

[Skull Pilot]

a gun in the home- 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

It will never be true no matter how many times you type it

 

[Skull Pilot]

I understand. You know, there was another study recently that as very similar. It found that those who use automobiles for transportation are 43x more likely to be involved in an automobile accident.

The thing is, we can outlaw guns and be just fine. We could live in a gun free society. The Japanese, Germans, Italians, British, French already do it.

Cars, not so much.

But, hey, I'd be happy to regulate guns the way we regulate cars. Lots and lots of restrictions, licensing, background checks, mandatory insurance, and thousands of police to enforce what people are doing with them.

Oh, oh, this is the part where you whine loudly, "But the Founding Fathers said we could have guns!!!!!"

The UK is NOT a gun free society

 

[JoeB131]

The UK is NOT a gun free society

No, but they do restrict guns to people who ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

What a concept.

 

[2aguy]

The UK is NOT a gun free society

No, but they do restrict guns to people who ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

What a concept.

BRitains gun crime rate didn't change after they confiscated guns...now only the criminals and cops have guns...and the criminals have as many guns as they did before...in fact, they have more guns...and fully automatic guns.......and their violent crime rate went up 27% last year and their gun crime went up 4%.


And our crime rate....as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry more guns for self defense.....went down....our gun mirder rate...went down.....

Nothing you believe about gun ownership is true or factual......

And regulating guns...they are already highly regulated...and criminals still get them even with mandatory federal background checks....

And yes...you don't care about freedom....you want a police state.....we get that..Lyon hate people and think they ne d to be controlled.....good for you.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The UK is NOT a gun free society

No, but they do restrict guns to people who ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

What a concept.

And here we believe that any law abiding citizen should be able to have a gun if they want.

Freedom what a concept

 

[Skull Pilot]

The UK is NOT a gun free society

No, but they do restrict guns to people who ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

What a concept.

BRitains gun crime rate didn't change after they confiscated guns...now only the criminals and cops have guns...and the criminals have as many guns as they did before...in fact, they have more guns...and fully automatic guns.......and their violent crime rate went up 27% last year and their gun crime went up 4%.


And our crime rate....as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry more guns for self defense.....went down....our gun mirder rate...went down.....

Nothing you believe about gun ownership is true or factual......

And regulating guns...they are already highly regulated...and criminals still get them even with mandatory federal background checks....

And yes...you don't care about freedom....you want a police state.....we get that..Lyon hate people and think they ne d to be controlled.....good for you.

The thing is they didn't ban guns.

Citizens can still get gun permits. It's a long process but people can and still own guns in the UK

 

[2aguy]

The UK is NOT a gun free society

No, but they do restrict guns to people who ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE THEM.

What a concept.

BRitains gun crime rate didn't change after they confiscated guns...now only the criminals and cops have guns...and the criminals have as many guns as they did before...in fact, they have more guns...and fully automatic guns.......and their violent crime rate went up 27% last year and their gun crime went up 4%.


And our crime rate....as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry more guns for self defense.....went down....our gun mirder rate...went down.....

Nothing you believe about gun ownership is true or factual......

And regulating guns...they are already highly regulated...and criminals still get them even with mandatory federal background checks....

And yes...you don't care about freedom....you want a police state.....we get that..Lyon hate people and think they ne d to be controlled.....good for you.

The thing is they didn't ban guns.

Citizens can still get gun permits. It's a long process but people can and still own guns in the UK

Hunting shotguns.........the criminals are using fully automatic weapons.....Skorpion machine pistols and AKs.......you cannot get a gun for self defense in Britain......it is not a legally recognized reason to own a gun........and that did not lower their gun crime rate..so nuts like joe are wrong...and they are wrong on every aspect of the gun debate...every one...

 

[JoeB131]

And our crime rate....as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry more guns for self defense.....went down....our gun mirder rate...went down.....

Our crime rates are horrible compared to any other industrialized nation.

No matter how much manure you spread around.

 

[JoeB131]

The thing is they didn't ban guns.

Citizens can still get gun permits. It's a long process but people can and still own guns in the UK

EXACTLY- people who've proven themselves responsible and show a legitimate need.

I'd have no problem if we did that in this country, really. Oh, on a personal level, I'd like to ban guns just to fuck with you gun nuts who inflicted Bush and Reagan on us and destroyed the Middle Class.

But one where you have to show a cause to have a gun and prove you aren't a nut... like the UK or Germany have.. yeah, I'm good with that.

Wait for it...


"BUT THE FOUNDING SLAVE RAPISTS SAID WE COULD HAVE GUNS...WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

 

[2aguy]

And our crime rate....as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry more guns for self defense.....went down....our gun mirder rate...went down.....

Our crime rates are horrible compared to any other industrialized nation.

No matter how much manure you spread around.

Our crime rates are bad because of our criminals...not because of guns...our non gun violent crime rate is higher than many of these countries entire crime rate.......nothing to do with guns......our criminals commit murder more often...without guns.....our criminals, in our inner cities are willing to kill more often than criminals in other countries are...the culture of Europe, Australia and Japan has not created people who kill...wether they have guns or not....the murder rates in all of these countries were lower than ours before they confiscated guns from their law abiding citizens...and as we saw in Britain...they confiscated guns from their law abiding people...and their gun crime rate did not go down......,in fact...it initially went way up.......and then returned to the same level it was before they took those guns.....

Confiscating guns did not change their gun murder rate......

More Americans owning and carrying guns did not increase the violent crime rate and in particular it did not increase the gun crime or the gun murder rate....

Guns did not affect the rate of murder in either country.....

You are just wrong.......

If you want to stop violent crime you have to lock up dangerous criminals and isolate them from the public.....fix the problems that may create more of them...but if they are viol not...you have to isolate them."

 

[jon_berzerk]

2013...35,000 car deaths...I guess we will see you protesting the existence of cars.....right, moron?

again, I would be happy to regulate guns the way we regulate cars. I don't think you'd be happy and we'd hear a lot of whining about how some guy in a powdered wig who shit in a chamber pot and raped his slaves wanted us to have guns. (Not his slaves, obviously.)

wanted us to have guns. (Not his slaves, obviously.)

this is all gun control is thanks for pointing it out dummy

 

[SwimExpert]

I understand. You know, there was another study recently that as very similar. It found that those who use automobiles for transportation are 43x more likely to be involved in an automobile accident.

The thing is, we can outlaw guns and be just fine. We could live in a gun free society. The Japanese, Germans, Italians, British, French already do it.

Cars, not so much.

But, hey, I'd be happy to regulate guns the way we regulate cars. Lots and lots of restrictions, licensing, background checks, mandatory insurance, and thousands of police to enforce what people are doing with them.

Oh, oh, this is the part where you whine loudly, "But the Founding Fathers said we could have guns!!!!!"

What a bunch of nonsense. First you move the goalpost, then you make a few wild and unsubstantiated claims, and then you shred the constitution. You're just as deranged about this subject as Trump voters are about him.

 

[2aguy]

The thing is they didn't ban guns.

Citizens can still get gun permits. It's a long process but people can and still own guns in the UK

EXACTLY- people who've proven themselves responsible and show a legitimate need.

I'd have no problem if we did that in this country, really. Oh, on a personal level, I'd like to ban guns just to fuck with you gun nuts who inflicted Bush and Reagan on us and destroyed the Middle Class.

But one where you have to show a cause to have a gun and prove you aren't a nut... like the UK or Germany have.. yeah, I'm good with that.

Wait for it...


"BUT THE FOUNDING SLAVE RAPISTS SAID WE COULD HAVE GUNS...WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

Yes...just for you joe...the government doesn't give permission for only certain people to be able to defend themselves...depending on who in the government is making the decision and who as a citizen is asking.......

We already have what you want......criminals cannot own guns....if a criminal is caught with a gun they can be arrested......and it works...

You don't want people to have guns because you are a control freak who hates People...

Nothing you point out is true about Americans and guns..not one single thing...

 

[JoeB131]

Our crime rates are bad because of our criminals...not because of guns...our non gun violent crime rate is higher than many of these countries entire crime rate.......

No, our crime rate is bad because we have too much access to guns.

do we have other problems, like racism, income inequality, etc., that contribute to the crime problem? Yup.

But the fact that any crazy person can walk into a gun store and buy a machine gun with a 100 round clip is really a problem.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes...just for you joe...the government doesn't give permission for only certain people to be able to defend themselves...depending on who in the government is making the decision and who as a citizen is asking.......

Guy, the thing is, the Government is us. Always has been, always will be. And the same thing applies to even the worst governments. Nazi Germany wasn't bad because of the Nazis, it was bad because Germans were good with everything Hitler did and fought to the last little boy for him.

the thing is, with 33,000 gun deaths a year, most of them self-inflicted or inflicted on our nearest and dearest, we really do need to protect ourselves... from ourselves.

We already have what you want......criminals cannot own guns....if a criminal is caught with a gun they can be arrested......and it works...

Yet the gun industry always manages to get guns to the bad guys. How is that. Here's an idea. Hold the gun industry liable for gun violence. Done. They'll start being a lot more selective when they've paid out a few seven figure settlements.

 

[2aguy]

Our crime rates are bad because of our criminals...not because of guns...our non gun violent crime rate is higher than many of these countries entire crime rate.......

No, our crime rate is bad because we have too much access to guns.

do we have other problems, like racism, income inequality, etc., that contribute to the crime problem? Yup.

But the fact that any crazy person can walk into a gun store and buy a machine gun with a 100 round clip is really a problem.

Joe...you are just wrong..on every level.........you have a fixation on guns and it blinds you to the truth and reality......the numbers show, the research shows, the other countries have low violent crime rate...except for Britain...they had low levels of violence in general...and low levels of murder and it has nothing to do with guns......

The criminals in all of these countries get guns.......all they want...they just do not commit murder...they beat and rape and rob...but they murder less often.....our criminal culture in our inner cities are more prone to commit murder... And they are not normal people....they have long histories of violence and crime....

Japan has a low crime rate for all crime....their culture restrains criminal behavior.......

 

[2aguy]

Yes...just for you joe...the government doesn't give permission for only certain people to be able to defend themselves...depending on who in the government is making the decision and who as a citizen is asking.......

Guy, the thing is, the Government is us. Always has been, always will be. And the same thing applies to even the worst governments. Nazi Germany wasn't bad because of the Nazis, it was bad because Germans were good with everything Hitler did and fought to the last little boy for him.

the thing is, with 33,000 gun deaths a year, most of them self-inflicted or inflicted on our nearest and dearest, we really do need to protect ourselves... from ourselves.

We already have what you want......criminals cannot own guns....if a criminal is caught with a gun they can be arrested......and it works...

Yet the gun industry always manages to get guns to the bad guys. How is that. Here's an idea. Hold the gun industry liable for gun violence. Done. They'll start being a lot more selective when they've paid out a few seven figure settlements.

The Germand gave up their guns in the 1920s.....the socialists were able to beat and intimidate all opposition because the normal people...could not stand up to them...so the socialists gained power while the normal people learned to put their heads down to avoid the violence.......that can't happen here....Bernie supporters can't simply go to a business, drag out the owner and beat them, and destroy his store.....the next time they did that the next store owner would shoot them....you did not have that in Germany.......they had no guns...the socialists did....


And thanks for pointing out that you want to control people......suicide cannot be stopped by banning guns...the Japanese, South Korea, and China do not allow normal people to have guns and their suicide rate is higher than ours...as is France's and many countries in Europe with extreme gun control

The gun industry doers not arm criminals..that is illegal..criminals get all of their guns illegally.........that you will make no distinction in that process shows it isn't about the truth, the facts or reality with you...it is simply that you hate people, and you hate people who have guns the most.

 

[2aguy]

Our crime rates are bad because of our criminals...not because of guns...our non gun violent crime rate is higher than many of these countries entire crime rate.......

No, our crime rate is bad because we have too much access to guns.

do we have other problems, like racism, income inequality, etc., that contribute to the crime problem? Yup.

But the fact that any crazy person can walk into a gun store and buy a machine gun with a 100 round clip is really a problem.

Crazy people using guns is not a problem...with 357,000,000 million guns in private hands and 2 mass shootings last year.........sorry...you don't take away a right from all citizens for the crimes of two mentally ill people.......and added to that is you nuts,made it impossible for normal people to stop them by taking guns away from normal,people in fun free zones...........you caused the problem...and now you want to use the problem you created to take a Right away from 319,999,998 million people...who did not take guns into a public place and shoot people...