Wind Turbines in Oregon Alone Have Killed More Humans Than at Three Mile Island

[Weatherman2020]

Who needs humans and Eagles, anyway?


In the early hours of Feb. 1, one of the spinning blades on a turbine at Portland General Electric’s Biglow Canyon wind farm in Sherman County launched into the night.

The 135-foot piece of fiberglass, wood and metal weighs more than seven tons.

It flew the full length of a football field.

An investigation by The Oregonian/OregonLive has found that the seemingly isolated incident, which has not been publicly reported until now, is part of a pattern of maintenance problems that have undercut production at PGE’s flagship wind farm, shortchanged ratepayers and landowners, and put those who cultivate wheat under the turbines – and their cropland itself – at risk.

Siemens, Oregon State Officials Investigate Fatal Wind Turbine Collapse - News

eepower.com

 

[Moonglow]

What is the leading cause of death for eagles?

Lead poisoning

Lead poisoning has become one of the primary causes of death for Bald Eagles. This poisoning occurs when the Bald Eagle feeds off carrion (dead animals) that have been shot with lead bullets.

Bald Eagles – Current Dangers | American Eagle Foundation​

 

[Moonglow]

What are humans most likely to die of?


The following data is taken from the CDC's 2017 report .

1. Heart disease. Number of deaths per year: 635,260. ...
2. Cancer. Number of deaths per year: 598,038. ...
3. Accidents (unintentional injuries) Number of deaths per year: 161,374. ...
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases. ...
5. Stroke. ...
6. Alzheimer's disease. ...
7. Diabetes. ...
8. Influenza and pneumonia.

More items...

12 Leading Causes of Death in the United States - Healthline​

 

[Moonglow]

How many wind turbines are at Three Mile Island?

 

[FA_Q2]

You might not want to go down that road:

Coal Pollution Fatalities

Major report by U.S. National Academies provides authoritative estimates of health toll from coal power plant emissions, as well as from motor vehicles

spectrum.ieee.org

New research finds 1M deaths in 2017 attributable to fossil fuel combustion

An international team of researchers, including engineering faculty at Washington University in St. Louis, has determined what sources contribute to pollution and the health effects they have on global, regional and smaller scales.

source.wustl.edu

The Other Reason to Shift away from Coal: Air Pollution That Kills Thousands Every Year

Shifting coal-fired power plants in the U.S. to natural gas would have tremendous positive effects on human health in America

www.scientificamerican.com

And a thousand more sources all say the same damn thing. If you want to make a valid point against wind or other green energy, this is by FAR the absolute dumbest manner to go about it. Coal alone releases more radiation than nuclear plants by ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. In particular, coal causes FAR more death than any green energy source.

Hell, you found 2 whole deaths from wind turbines and more than that doe every year from just the act of mining coal, not including actually burning it.

U.S. coal industry fatalities 2022 | Statista

In 2022 there were 10 occupational fatalities in the United States coal mining industry, among a total of 66,172 U.S.

www.statista.com

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Just like EV's, these "wind turbines" were built for GREED, NOT for USE.

The design is a horrible disaster waiting to happen =

1. the blades are WAY too heavy for the size motor that supports them
2. fiberglass in NOT the material you want on something THAT heavy and THAT large
3. the size is WAY too large for the operation required of it
4. the entire thing is an engineering nightmare and catastrphe waiting to happen

 

[Delldude]

What are humans most likely to die of?


The following data is taken from the CDC's 2017 report .

1. Heart disease. Number of deaths per year: 635,260. ...
2. Cancer. Number of deaths per year: 598,038. ...
3. Accidents (unintentional injuries) Number of deaths per year: 161,374. ...
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases. ...
5. Stroke. ...
6. Alzheimer's disease. ...
7. Diabetes. ...
8. Influenza and pneumonia.

More items...

12 Leading Causes of Death in the United States - Healthline​

Moon.....no 'Rona?

 

[Crick]

One Oregon worker was killed by the collapse of a wind turbine tower in 2007. Of course, no one was killed or even injured by the Three Mile Island incident so this claim is completely worthless and more than a little deceitful.

Now if you'd like to compare deaths and injuries in wind farms versus those in fossil fuel power plants, on a per-kilowatt basis, over some reasonable period of time, I suspect the essentially unmanned wind farms will show a considerable advantage.

 

[Delldude]

One Oregon worker was killed by the collapse of a wind turbine tower in 2007. Of course, no one was killed or even injured by the Three Mile Island incident so this claim is completely worthless and more than a little deceitful.

Now if you'd like to compare deaths and injuries in wind farms versus those in fossil fuel power plants, on a per-kilowatt basis, over some reasonable period of time, I suspect the essentially unmanned wind farms will show a considerable advantage.

People Died at Three Mile Island

As the thirtieth anniversary of America's most infamous industrial accident approaches, we mourn the deaths that accompanied the biggest string of lies ever told in US industrial history.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Crick]

People Died at Three Mile Island

As the thirtieth anniversary of America's most infamous industrial accident approaches, we mourn the deaths that accompanied the biggest string of lies ever told in US industrial history.

www.huffpost.com

Three Mile Island accident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Some epidemiological studies analyzing the rate of cancer in and around the area since the accident did not determine that there was a statistically significant increase in its rate, while others did. However, due to their nature, such studies cannot conclusively establish whether or not there was a causal connection linking the accident with these cancers.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18]"

12) Hatch, Maureen C.; et al. (1990). "Cancer near the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant: Radiation Emissions". American Journal of Epidemiology. 132 (3): 397–412. doi:10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a115673. PMID 2389745.
13) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J. (2008). "Incidence of thyroid cancer in residents surrounding the Three-Mile Island nuclear facility". Laryngoscope. 118 (4): 618–628. doi:10.1097/MLG.0b013e3181613ad2. PMID 18300710. S2CID 27337295. Thyroid cancer incidence has not increased in Dauphin County, the county in which TMI is located. York County demonstrated a trend toward increasing thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1995, approximately 15 years after the TMI accident. Lancaster County showed a significant increase in thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1990. These findings, however, do not provide a causal link to the TMI accident.
14) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J.; De Simone, N.F.; Slotkin, J.F.; Henson, B.L. (August 2013). "Incidence of thyroid cancer surrounding Three Mile Island nuclear facility: the 30-year follow-up". Laryngoscope. 123 (8): 2064–2071. doi:10.1002/lary.23953. PMID 23371046. S2CID 19495983.
15) ^ Jump up to:a b Han, Y Y.; Youk, A.O.; Sasser, H.; Talbott, E.O. (November 2011). "Cancer incidence among residents of the Three Mile Island accident area: 1982–1995". Environ Res. 111 (8): 1230–1235. Bibcode:2011ER....111.1230H. doi:10.1016/j.envres.2011.08.005. PMID 21855866.
16) ^ Jump up to:a b Hatch, M.C.; Wallenstein, S.; Beyea, J.; Nieves, J. W.; Susser, M. (June 1991). "Cancer rates after the Three Mile Island nuclear accident and proximity of residence to the plant". American Journal of Public Health. 81 (6): 719–24. doi:10.2105/AJPH.81.6.719. PMC 1405170. PMID 2029040.
17) ^ "Backgrounder on the Three Mile Island Accident: Health Effects". U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Retrieved January 13, 2018. The NRC conducted detailed studies of the accident's radiological consequences, as did the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services), the Department of Energy, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Several independent groups also conducted studies. The approximately 2 million people around TMI-2 during the accident are estimated to have received an average radiation dose of only about 1 millirem above the usual background dose. To put this into context, exposure from a chest X-ray is about 6 millirem and the area's natural radioactive background dose is about 100–125 millirem per year for the area. The accident's maximum dose to a person at the site boundary would have been less than 100 millirem above background. In the months following the accident, although questions were raised about possible adverse effects from radiation on human, animal, and plant life in the TMI area, none could be directly correlated to the accident. Thousands of environmental samples of air, water, milk, vegetation, soil, and foodstuffs were collected by various government agencies monitoring the area. Very low levels of radionuclides could be attributed to releases from the accident. Comprehensive investigations and assessments by several well-respected organizations, such as Columbia University and the University of Pittsburgh, have concluded that in spite of serious damage to the reactor, the actual release had negligible effects on the physical health of individuals or the environment.
18) ^ Goldenberg, D, Russo, M, Houser, K, Crist, H, Derr JB, Walter V, Warrick JI, Sheldon KE, Broach J, Bann, DV (2017). "Altered molecular profile in thyroid cancers from patients affected by the Three Mile Island nuclear accident". Laryngoscope. 127 supplement 3: S1–S9. doi:10.1002/lary.26687. PMID 28555940. Findings were consistent with observations from other radiation-exposed populations. These data raise the possibility that radiation released from [Three Mile Island] may have altered the molecular profile of [thyroid cancer] in the population surrounding TMI.

 

[Crick]

People Died at Three Mile Island

As the thirtieth anniversary of America's most infamous industrial accident approaches, we mourn the deaths that accompanied the biggest string of lies ever told in US industrial history.

www.huffpost.com

So, you disagree with the OP?

 

[Weatherman2020]

You might not want to go down that road:

Coal Pollution Fatalities

Major report by U.S. National Academies provides authoritative estimates of health toll from coal power plant emissions, as well as from motor vehicles

spectrum.ieee.org

New research finds 1M deaths in 2017 attributable to fossil fuel combustion

An international team of researchers, including engineering faculty at Washington University in St. Louis, has determined what sources contribute to pollution and the health effects they have on global, regional and smaller scales.

source.wustl.edu

The Other Reason to Shift away from Coal: Air Pollution That Kills Thousands Every Year

Shifting coal-fired power plants in the U.S. to natural gas would have tremendous positive effects on human health in America

www.scientificamerican.com

And a thousand more sources all say the same damn thing. If you want to make a valid point against wind or other green energy, this is by FAR the absolute dumbest manner to go about it. Coal alone releases more radiation than nuclear plants by ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. In particular, coal causes FAR more death than any green energy source.

Hell, you found 2 whole deaths from wind turbines and more than that doe every year from just the act of mining coal, not including actually burning it.

U.S. coal industry fatalities 2022 | Statista

In 2022 there were 10 occupational fatalities in the United States coal mining industry, among a total of 66,172 U.S.

www.statista.com

Where is your list of the dead from American nuclear plants?

Oh wait. You hate Western civilization so you just need to deny science and attack the most clean reliable source of energy on planet earth.

 

[ReinyDays]

Japan is a modern advanced industrialism nation ... and they lost 20,000 just ten years ago ... double the biggest loss of any kind in the United States ever ... (the 1900 Galveston Hurricane killed 6,000 to 12,000) ...

Fifteen years ago, a quarter million people died one afternoon ... that's more people dead than from all nuclear, including Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...

Math is hard ...

 

[Delldude]

Three Mile Island accident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Some epidemiological studies analyzing the rate of cancer in and around the area since the accident did not determine that there was a statistically significant increase in its rate, while others did. However, due to their nature, such studies cannot conclusively establish whether or not there was a causal connection linking the accident with these cancers.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18]"

12) Hatch, Maureen C.; et al. (1990). "Cancer near the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant: Radiation Emissions". American Journal of Epidemiology. 132 (3): 397–412. doi:10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a115673. PMID 2389745.
13) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J. (2008). "Incidence of thyroid cancer in residents surrounding the Three-Mile Island nuclear facility". Laryngoscope. 118 (4): 618–628. doi:10.1097/MLG.0b013e3181613ad2. PMID 18300710. S2CID 27337295. Thyroid cancer incidence has not increased in Dauphin County, the county in which TMI is located. York County demonstrated a trend toward increasing thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1995, approximately 15 years after the TMI accident. Lancaster County showed a significant increase in thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1990. These findings, however, do not provide a causal link to the TMI accident.
14) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J.; De Simone, N.F.; Slotkin, J.F.; Henson, B.L. (August 2013). "Incidence of thyroid cancer surrounding Three Mile Island nuclear facility: the 30-year follow-up". Laryngoscope. 123 (8): 2064–2071. doi:10.1002/lary.23953. PMID 23371046. S2CID 19495983.
15) ^ Jump up to:a b Han, Y Y.; Youk, A.O.; Sasser, H.; Talbott, E.O. (November 2011). "Cancer incidence among residents of the Three Mile Island accident area: 1982–1995". Environ Res. 111 (8): 1230–1235. Bibcode:2011ER....111.1230H. doi:10.1016/j.envres.2011.08.005. PMID 21855866.
16) ^ Jump up to:a b Hatch, M.C.; Wallenstein, S.; Beyea, J.; Nieves, J. W.; Susser, M. (June 1991). "Cancer rates after the Three Mile Island nuclear accident and proximity of residence to the plant". American Journal of Public Health. 81 (6): 719–24. doi:10.2105/AJPH.81.6.719. PMC 1405170. PMID 2029040.
17) ^ "Backgrounder on the Three Mile Island Accident: Health Effects". U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Retrieved January 13, 2018. The NRC conducted detailed studies of the accident's radiological consequences, as did the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services), the Department of Energy, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Several independent groups also conducted studies. The approximately 2 million people around TMI-2 during the accident are estimated to have received an average radiation dose of only about 1 millirem above the usual background dose. To put this into context, exposure from a chest X-ray is about 6 millirem and the area's natural radioactive background dose is about 100–125 millirem per year for the area. The accident's maximum dose to a person at the site boundary would have been less than 100 millirem above background. In the months following the accident, although questions were raised about possible adverse effects from radiation on human, animal, and plant life in the TMI area, none could be directly correlated to the accident. Thousands of environmental samples of air, water, milk, vegetation, soil, and foodstuffs were collected by various government agencies monitoring the area. Very low levels of radionuclides could be attributed to releases from the accident. Comprehensive investigations and assessments by several well-respected organizations, such as Columbia University and the University of Pittsburgh, have concluded that in spite of serious damage to the reactor, the actual release had negligible effects on the physical health of individuals or the environment.
18) ^ Goldenberg, D, Russo, M, Houser, K, Crist, H, Derr JB, Walter V, Warrick JI, Sheldon KE, Broach J, Bann, DV (2017). "Altered molecular profile in thyroid cancers from patients affected by the Three Mile Island nuclear accident". Laryngoscope. 127 supplement 3: S1–S9. doi:10.1002/lary.26687. PMID 28555940. Findings were consistent with observations from other radiation-exposed populations. These data raise the possibility that radiation released from [Three Mile Island] may have altered the molecular profile of [thyroid cancer] in the population surrounding TMI.

Huffpo, dude.

So, you disagree with the OP?

Looks that way, doesn't it.

 

[Indeependent]

Who needs humans and Eagles, anyway?


In the early hours of Feb. 1, one of the spinning blades on a turbine at Portland General Electric’s Biglow Canyon wind farm in Sherman County launched into the night.

The 135-foot piece of fiberglass, wood and metal weighs more than seven tons.

It flew the full length of a football field.

An investigation by The Oregonian/OregonLive has found that the seemingly isolated incident, which has not been publicly reported until now, is part of a pattern of maintenance problems that have undercut production at PGE’s flagship wind farm, shortchanged ratepayers and landowners, and put those who cultivate wheat under the turbines – and their cropland itself – at risk.
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Siemens, Oregon State Officials Investigate Fatal Wind Turbine Collapse - News

eepower.com

If it wasn't on CNN it didn't happen.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Three Mile Island accident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Some epidemiological studies analyzing the rate of cancer in and around the area since the accident did not determine that there was a statistically significant increase in its rate, while others did. However, due to their nature, such studies cannot conclusively establish whether or not there was a causal connection linking the accident with these cancers.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18]"

12) Hatch, Maureen C.; et al. (1990). "Cancer near the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant: Radiation Emissions". American Journal of Epidemiology. 132 (3): 397–412. doi:10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a115673. PMID 2389745.
13) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J. (2008). "Incidence of thyroid cancer in residents surrounding the Three-Mile Island nuclear facility". Laryngoscope. 118 (4): 618–628. doi:10.1097/MLG.0b013e3181613ad2. PMID 18300710. S2CID 27337295. Thyroid cancer incidence has not increased in Dauphin County, the county in which TMI is located. York County demonstrated a trend toward increasing thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1995, approximately 15 years after the TMI accident. Lancaster County showed a significant increase in thyroid cancer incidence beginning in 1990. These findings, however, do not provide a causal link to the TMI accident.
14) ^ Jump up to:a b Levin, R.J.; De Simone, N.F.; Slotkin, J.F.; Henson, B.L. (August 2013). "Incidence of thyroid cancer surrounding Three Mile Island nuclear facility: the 30-year follow-up". Laryngoscope. 123 (8): 2064–2071. doi:10.1002/lary.23953. PMID 23371046. S2CID 19495983.
15) ^ Jump up to:a b Han, Y Y.; Youk, A.O.; Sasser, H.; Talbott, E.O. (November 2011). "Cancer incidence among residents of the Three Mile Island accident area: 1982–1995". Environ Res. 111 (8): 1230–1235. Bibcode:2011ER....111.1230H. doi:10.1016/j.envres.2011.08.005. PMID 21855866.
16) ^ Jump up to:a b Hatch, M.C.; Wallenstein, S.; Beyea, J.; Nieves, J. W.; Susser, M. (June 1991). "Cancer rates after the Three Mile Island nuclear accident and proximity of residence to the plant". American Journal of Public Health. 81 (6): 719–24. doi:10.2105/AJPH.81.6.719. PMC 1405170. PMID 2029040.
17) ^ "Backgrounder on the Three Mile Island Accident: Health Effects". U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Retrieved January 13, 2018. The NRC conducted detailed studies of the accident's radiological consequences, as did the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services), the Department of Energy, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Several independent groups also conducted studies. The approximately 2 million people around TMI-2 during the accident are estimated to have received an average radiation dose of only about 1 millirem above the usual background dose. To put this into context, exposure from a chest X-ray is about 6 millirem and the area's natural radioactive background dose is about 100–125 millirem per year for the area. The accident's maximum dose to a person at the site boundary would have been less than 100 millirem above background. In the months following the accident, although questions were raised about possible adverse effects from radiation on human, animal, and plant life in the TMI area, none could be directly correlated to the accident. Thousands of environmental samples of air, water, milk, vegetation, soil, and foodstuffs were collected by various government agencies monitoring the area. Very low levels of radionuclides could be attributed to releases from the accident. Comprehensive investigations and assessments by several well-respected organizations, such as Columbia University and the University of Pittsburgh, have concluded that in spite of serious damage to the reactor, the actual release had negligible effects on the physical health of individuals or the environment.
18) ^ Goldenberg, D, Russo, M, Houser, K, Crist, H, Derr JB, Walter V, Warrick JI, Sheldon KE, Broach J, Bann, DV (2017). "Altered molecular profile in thyroid cancers from patients affected by the Three Mile Island nuclear accident". Laryngoscope. 127 supplement 3: S1–S9. doi:10.1002/lary.26687. PMID 28555940. Findings were consistent with observations from other radiation-exposed populations. These data raise the possibility that radiation released from [Three Mile Island] may have altered the molecular profile of [thyroid cancer] in the population surrounding TMI.

Let me go change that wiki page.

 

[Crick]

Let me go change that wiki page.

Go ahead. But we both know what will happen. We just won't agree on the why.

How about telling us how many people you believe have been killed by the Oregon wind farms? Cause it kinda looks as if you immediately abandoned the OP on this thread.

 

[FA_Q2]

Where is your list of the dead from American nuclear plants?

Oh wait. You hate Western civilization so you just need to deny science and attack the most clean reliable source of energy on planet earth.

Another idiot.

I hate western civilization?

Care to back up your blatant ass bullshit lies with something more than gas blown out your ass? No? Of course not.

So sorry I pointed out some facts for you that show your premise is the WRONG way to address green boondoggles. I forgot your pointy head could not handle it. I actually posted some facts where you posted bullshit about 2 people who died years ago. And you have the asshattery to claim I am anti science. How hilarious. You are not even intelligent enough to realize the post I made had a point in FAVOR of nuclear power.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Another idiot.

I hate western civilization?

Care to back up your blatant ass bullshit lies with something more than gas blown out your ass? No? Of course not.

So sorry I pointed out some facts for you that show your premise is the WRONG way to address green boondoggles. I forgot your pointy head could not handle it. I actually posted some facts where you posted bullshit about 2 people who died years ago. And you have the asshattery to claim I am anti science. How hilarious. You are not even intelligent enough to realize the post I made had a point in FAVOR of nuclear power.

You wish to destroy the economies of Western Civilization while letting the Chinese, Arabs and Russians off the hook in the name of your envirowhacko cult, so yes you hate Western Civilization.

 

[Crick]

Huffpo, dude.

Looks that way, doesn't it.

Yes it does, but for a slightly unexpected reason. I was unaware there was a sub-cult that believed TMI to have been a huge but unknown catastrophe. Out of curiosity, what do you think of wind and solar power being added to the American power grid?