Will Russia Collapse in 2025?How Putin fooled Russians.

[Zavulon]

Ivan I dont know where to start , ok. 1.) Novgorod EU republic genocide, about 2.) The Circassian genocide (even you) had learn in your soviet imperial school, didn´t you ?

Circassian genocide - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Novgorod was not a genocide. Ivan the Terrible eliminated the local trading elites - "Golden belts". He hanged them on their own belts and poor people of Novgorod were cheering it.
And there were no "Circassian genocide". There was "Uprising of 15 tribes", and the smartest tribes (eight of them, if I remember correctly) partly survived after unconditional surrender. And this uprising was caused by Turkish and British emissaries, who paid Circassian militants for their attacks against Russian bases and fortresses. We didn't eliminated them because of their genes. We eliminated them because they attacked us.

 

[Litwin]

Novgorod was not a genocide. Ivan the Terrible eliminated the local trading elites - "Golden belts". He hanged them on their own belts and poor people of Novgorod were cheering it.
And there were no "Circassian genocide". There was "Uprising of 15 tribes", and the smartest tribes (eight of them, if I remember correctly) partly survived after unconditional surrender. And this uprising was caused by Turkish and British emissaries, who paid Circassian militants for their attacks against Russian bases and fortresses. We didn't eliminated them because of their genes. We eliminated them because they attacked us.

i knew all your BS answers before you wrote them down, ivan

still, Decolonization is on the way ! and you can´t stop it.

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire during the Caucasian Wars.

Russia’s Top Islamic Authority Permits Men to Marry Multiple Women - The Moscow Times

Russia’s top Islamic authority issued a ruling that allows men to have multiple wives, the state-run news agency RIA Novosti reported Thursday, citing Moscow’s head Mufti.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[Zavulon]

i knew all your BS answers before you wrote them down, ivan

still, Decolonization is on the way ! and you can´t stop it.

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire during the Caucasian Wars.

Russia’s Top Islamic Authority Permits Men to Marry Multiple Women - The Moscow Times

Russia’s top Islamic authority issued a ruling that allows men to have multiple wives, the state-run news agency RIA Novosti reported Thursday, citing Moscow’s head Mufti.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The Moscow Times? NAFO? Seriously?

 

[ESay]

It is not acceptable for the USA, because every day on the current level of conflict means additional risks for American population. And they won't keep NATO members together because, say, Estonia clearly understand that the local Russians can declare Narva's People Republic in any moment and America won't be able to make a shit about it.

No. Its not acceptable for Zelenskiy because as soon as the war is eneded - he is dead. Therefore, you can't freeze the war without killing him.


No. Putin's regime is more about earning money, not wasting them. Life of oligarchs is not "all boutiques and holidays". Its a hard work. And, talking about boutiques and holidays, China or Maldives are not worse that Europe. What is even more important, Russian Federation is about safety of Russian people. And the safety of Russian people is unachievable without elimination of Banderlog terrorists. Therefore, Russia will continue elimination of Banderlogs - in Ukraine, in Britain, in Canada, in Argentina and anywhere else.


Poor Tarasiki are poor, first of all because they are stupid. Nobody will give you Russian money. Neither Russia, nor the EU, nor the USA. Poor Tarasiki will pay the debts, and the most smart of them will flee from Ukraine as soon as the borders are open.


Russia is a democracy (in its normal meaning). That's why Vankas will fight until decisive and profitable victory. Putin knows it, and that's why in his New Year adress he declared 2025 as "The Year of Motherland's defender". Which obviously means that Russia is starting preparations for a war, not for a ceasefire. The first song in the New Year (at the official New Year concert) was "All we need, is the victory. One for all of us, and we don't care about the price".

The Putin regime is flash and bones of the oligarchy that was formed in the 1990s having privatised industries as a whole using 'vouchers' (ie without paying a dime), also consisting of financial swindlers and speculators, and so called 'siloviki' who made fortunes offering protection for drug barons, contraband, international arms sellers etc. These people don't think in the categories such as patriotism, state sovereignty, history etc. All they care is money, money, and personal ambitions.

When they will have decided that enough is enough, they happily strike any deal that will guarantee preserving their status and fortunes. What will be left for stupid Vankas is songs about 'victory' so they can clapping their hands and be proud of their self-esteem. Bread and circuses. Or, in Vankas' case - vodka and circuses.

 

[Litwin]

The Moscow Times? NAFO? Seriously?

Russian Islamic Council Approves Polygamy For Muslim Males, Contrary To Legal Code

Russia's top Islamic body has approved a religious edict that allows Muslim men to practice polygamy, which contradicts Russian law that prohibits individuals from entering multiple registered marriages simultaneously.

www.rferl.org

In Russia, Muslims are permitted religious polygamy | Tajikistan News ASIA-Plus

old.asiaplustj.info

Russia’s Top Islamic Authority Approves Polygamy, Allow Men to Marry 4 Wives

Russia’s leading Islamic authority has issued a landmark ruling allowing men to have multiple wives under specific circumstances, according to a report by state-run news agency RIA Novosti on Thursday.

www.moroccoworldnews.com

etc.

and

Chechen Leader Ramzan Kadyrov Has a Second Wife — And Her Properties Are Worth Millions

Chechnya’s authoritarian leader has long made his stance on polygamy clear — he’s an enthusiastic supporter — but little has been known about whether he practices it himself. OCCRP’s partner, The Project, found that he married a second wife he watched perform in a 2006 beauty pageant when she...

www.occrp.org

you just can´t miss it.

 

[Baron]

There will be no freezing Ukrainian conflict. And no, I still can spend those dollars more or less freely.

Your Putin does anything USA commands.
The conflict can be frozen if necessary, not Putin decides it.
The entirely war between UA and RUS is a charade, the purpose is elimination of two slavic peoples.
Putin, Zelensky, Biden & Co are a team, only morons can't understand it.

All brainy and capable generals were either murdered or imprisoned by Putin.
Prigozin, Strelkov, now Alksnis and hundred of another ones.
Putins doesn't need a victory, his task is destruction and annhialation of Russia and its people

So, the conflict can be frozen, the Ukrainian Army needs a little bit respite.
No one will ask Russia, all negotiations will be between USA and China, the main players in this game

 

[Baron]

The Putin regime is flash and bones of the oligarchy that was formed in the 1990s having privatised industries as a whole using 'vouchers' (ie without paying a dime), also consisting of financial swindlers and speculators, and so called 'siloviki' who made fortunes offering protection for drug barons, contraband, international arms sellers etc. These people don't think in the categories such as patriotism, state sovereignty, history etc. All they care is money, money, and personal ambitions.

When they will have decided that enough is enough, they happily strike any deal that will guarantee preserving their status and fortunes. What will be left for stupid Vankas is songs about 'victory' so they can clapping their hands and be proud of their self-esteem. Bread and circuses. Or, in Vankas' case - vodka and circuses.

You always avoid discussions about religion affiliation of 'the oligarchy'

Almost anyone of main players in politic and industry belongs to satanic Chabad cult.
And this extremist cult destroys Russia now.

 

[Baron]

What is most surprising in Moscow's manifest, vicious, and openly genocidal imperialism since 2022 is the continuing widespread sympathy for Moscow empire among many left-wing intellectuals in the West....

Who run the West?
The same bosses who commands Putin and Zelensky.
They were always on the left side (communism), they possess the entirely propaganda and money.
So, Putin is in reality a good guy for them, he does a good job for them, destroys Russia and its people.
So, their propaganda sides with Putin and admires it.

 

[Baron]

we (FREE WORLD) will defeat Moscow empire like we did in 1991. you know the drill

Stolen (by Moscow 🇷🇺 imperialists ) Siberian gas supplies to Moscow-occupied parts of Moldova and Slovakia have completely stopped.

Stolen (by Moscow imperialists ) Siberian gas supplies to Moscow-occupied parts of Moldova and Slovakia have completely stopped. Romania will take care of Moldova's gas. Everything will be okay. The scare will pass. Moldova will be pushed closer to Romania/EU-USA-Turkey and the master...

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The Free World is gone, the last representatives of it was the Great Ronald Reagan

 

[Litwin]

Who run the West?

we ordinary citizens, but as a Muscovite (non-European race ) you´ll never get it. For how long can khan (Muslim ?) putin run his bizarre, imperialistic show around the Globe ?

 

[Litwin]

The Free World is gone, the last representatives of it was the Great Ronald Reagan

We badly need RR BACK !

 

[Zavulon]

The Putin regime is flash and bones of the oligarchy that was formed in the 1990s having privatised industries as a whole using 'vouchers' (ie without paying a dime), also consisting of financial swindlers and speculators, and so called 'siloviki' who made fortunes offering protection for drug barons, contraband, international arms sellers etc.

Yep. Those are tough guys, who have a lot of blood on their pretty hands. And they know what does it mean to come on top.

These people don't think in the categories such as patriotism, state sovereignty, history etc. All they care is money, money, and personal ambitions.

More or less, yep. That's why any official ideology is prohibited in Russia. More or less close to the official is the position of "pragmatical patriotism".

When they will have decided that enough is enough, they happily strike any deal that will guarantee preserving their status and fortunes.

Yep. They will strike a good and profitable deal. And that is exactly why they won't strike a bad deal, and exchange 80% of Ukraine (which is, de facto, almost already in our pocket), plus $300G for a permission to waste money on European resorts?

What will be left for stupid Vankas is songs about 'victory' so they can clapping their hands and be proud of their self-esteem. Bread and circuses. Or, in Vankas' case - vodka and circuses.

You see, nowadays Vankas' need a lot of vodka, sport cars, smartphones, caviar and other goods. They are not expecting to see victory on TV. They want to see it in their refrigerators and garages.

 

[Zavulon]

Russian Islamic Council Approves Polygamy For Muslim Males, Contrary To Legal Code

Russia's top Islamic body has approved a religious edict that allows Muslim men to practice polygamy, which contradicts Russian law that prohibits individuals from entering multiple registered marriages simultaneously.

www.rferl.org

In Russia, Muslims are permitted religious polygamy | Tajikistan News ASIA-Plus

old.asiaplustj.info

Russia’s Top Islamic Authority Approves Polygamy, Allow Men to Marry 4 Wives

Russia’s leading Islamic authority has issued a landmark ruling allowing men to have multiple wives under specific circumstances, according to a report by state-run news agency RIA Novosti on Thursday.

www.moroccoworldnews.com

etc.

and

Chechen Leader Ramzan Kadyrov Has a Second Wife — And Her Properties Are Worth Millions

Chechnya’s authoritarian leader has long made his stance on polygamy clear — he’s an enthusiastic supporter — but little has been known about whether he practices it himself. OCCRP’s partner, The Project, found that he married a second wife he watched perform in a 2006 beauty pageant when she...

www.occrp.org

you just can´t miss it.

First of all, this "permission" was took back next day, and from legal point of view there is no difference between "second wife" and "official lover/girlfriend/parthner". Second - I don't care what people do in their bedrooms (more or less consensually).

 

[Zavulon]

You always avoid discussions about religion affiliation of 'the oligarchy'

Almost anyone of main players in politic and industry belongs to satanic Chabad cult.
And this extremist cult destroys Russia now.

As far as I know (and I believe I know better) there are almost no Chabad cultists among Russian oligarchs. May be Chubais was, but he left the country.

 

[Litwin]

First of all, this "permission" was took back next day, and from legal point of view there is no difference between "second wife" and "official lover". Second - I don't care what people do in their bedrooms (more or less consensually).

so you are ok with this ? you do approve Muslim polygamy in your empire ?

ps

any comment on this news ? do you have one more " logical " , imperial explanation for this one as well ?

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire during the Caucasian Wars. with other words, Moscow ulus is fucked .... 🇷🇺 Decolonization is on the way ...

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[ESay]

Yep. Those are tough guys, who have a lot of blood on their pretty hands. And they know what does it mean to come on top

And that is why they will wring Putin's neck in one of his bunkers if he ever decides to do really stupid things.

Yep. They will strike a good and profitable deal. And that is exactly why they won't strike a bad deal, and exchange 80% of Ukraine (which is, de facto, almost already in our pocket), plus $300G for a permission to waste money on European resorts

A good and profitable deal for them is getting back unlimited access to their bank accounts in Western-controlled offshores, to their properties around the world (primarily in Western Europe and the US), access to closed clubs and associations, selling Russian natural resources around the world without restrictions and accounts being frozen.

They will explain to stupid Vankas that leaving 80% of Ukraine to poor Tarasiks is the best deal possible.

You see, nowadays Vankas' need a lot of vodka, sport cars, smartphones, caviar and other goods. They are not expecting to see victory on TV. They want to see it in their refrigerators and garages

Who cares about Vankas? They are no more than 'kozly' for their boyars who should do whatever they are told.

 

[Zavulon]

so you are ok with this ? you do approve Muslim polygamy in your empire ?

I do approve even Christian polygamy, if it comes to it. I mean the Apostolic cannon 17 (based on 1 Tym 3:2) "the husband of one wife" is only about bishops, not about ordinary laymen.
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A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
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I don't care what people do in their bedrooms if it is more or less consensual.

ps

any comment on this news ? do you have one more " logical " , imperial explanation for this one as well ?

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire

Families in Muslim Chechnya will receive 500,000 rubles each if they name their newborns after national heroes who fought against the Moscow Empire during the Caucasian Wars. with other words, Moscow ulus is fucked .... 🇷🇺 Decolonization is on the way ...

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Its quite simple. Chechens are becoming more and more russificated and parents often give their new-born children Russian names. The traditional names like Mansur or Aslan becomes more and more rare.
Sheikh Mansur wasn't "Chechen nationalist" or "separatist". He was fighting against first of all, traditional Chechen laws like "Adat", against slavery and rule of local war chiefs. Russian Empire saw him not as an "enemy" but as a "rebel", and put him in prison as an ordinary criminal when he was captured.
In official Soviet history Mansur was depicted as a "good guy", "the first Caucasian revolutioner".
Advertising controversial Chechen history is good, not bad.

 

[Zavulon]

And that is why they will wring Putin's neck in one of his bunkers if he ever decides to do really stupid things.

And the most stupid thing they can imagine - is freezing the war.

A good and profitable deal for them is getting back unlimited access to their bank accounts in Western-controlled offshores, to their properties around the world (primarily in Western Europe and the US), access to closed clubs and associations, selling Russian natural resources around the world without restrictions and accounts being frozen.

No. It won't be the good and profitable deal. It is West, who should be interested in keeping Russians as members of their clubs, as clients of their boutiques and resorts, or as sellers of the energy resources. And they should pay for Russian returning in the "business as usual mode"

They will explain to stupid Vankas that leaving 80% of Ukraine to poor Tarasiks is the best deal possible.

First - you need to prove it to them first. I doubt that you can. What EU can do if Russia take Kharkov, Odessa, Dniepropetrovsk or Kiev?

Who cares about Vankas? They are no more than 'kozly' for their boyars who should do whatever they are told.

Many of those who thought that way are already dead. One of the best Putin's scenic images is "defender of the ordinary people".

 

[ESay]

No. It won't be the good and profitable deal. It is West, who should be interested in keeping Russians as members of their clubs, as clients of their boutiques and resorts, or as sellers of the energy resources. And they should pay for Russian returning in the "business as usual mode

Wrong. Russian 'golden elite' views Russia only as a place for making money and nothing more. Their assets, properties, children, clubs, holiday places are all located in the West (well, some part maybe in Dubai and exotic islands too). It is their real home there, and they desperately try to return to it.

First - you need to prove it to them first. I doubt that you can. What EU can do if Russia take Kharkov, Odessa, Dniepropetrovsk or Kiev?

At first, Russian dogshit army should take at least one of these cities. As for now, the most successful year for them (except the first two months of 2022) looks like that

(colored in red, do not miss with two shades of pink)

Many of those who thought that way are already dead. One of the best Putin's scenic images is "defender of the ordinary people

I know, I know. A good czar and bad boyars. You stupid Vankas are 'kozly' for them all. Always were, and always will be. No matter how you try to fool yourselves.

 

[Zavulon]

Wrong. Russian 'golden elite' views Russia only as a place for making money and nothing more. Their assets, properties, children, clubs, holiday places are all located in the West (well, some part maybe in Dubai and exotic islands too). It is their real home there, and they desperately try to return to it.

Wow. You see, you are still parroting stupid Ukrainian propaganda, based on the mindset of the cheap Ukrainian prostitutes. For them yes, life of Russian oligarchs is 24/7 orgies, boutiques, resorts and all other BS. Real life is different.

At first, Russian dogshit army should take at least one of these cities. As for now, the most successful year for them (except the first two months of 2022) looks like that

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(colored in red, do not miss with two shades of pink)

Russian army, right now, not in the city-taking business. Right now Russian Army in the Nazi-killing business. And business is going well. When all Banderlogs are dead - we'll take almost undamaged and almost unpopulated cities.

I know, I know. A good czar and bad boyars. You stupid Vankas are 'kozly' for them all. Always were, and always will be. No matter how you try to fool yourselves.

You see, there is the difference between Russian elites and Ukrainian elites. For Russian elites ordinary people are tools and weapons. They invest in them to achieve the best result. For Ukrainian elites ordinary Ukrainians are "bydlo" they sell them as cannon fodder and don't care about them afterwards.
And Putin rules Russia for 25 years not because he ignores the needs of Russian people.