Will Pam Bondi Prosecute Michael Byrd For Murder?

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Byrd was a coward and faggot. Like you.

You obviously don't know me very well.

Or at all.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The disparity of force was a half a dozen unarmed police officers against 1 unarmed woman, there was no reasonable threat of imminent death or great bodily harm to the officers because "the mob" was on the other side of a locked door.

He had plenty of other options that didn't involve executing her, walking up and physically restraining her while she crawled through the window and taking the opportunity to bless the crowd with the OC spray hot sauce on his way out seems to have been a viable one.

I have no idea what you're referring to when you state "half a dozen unarmed police officers" because all of the police officers I saw on the same side of the door as her were armed.

And KEEPING "the mob" on the other side of the locked door can reasonable be assumed to be what he wanted, because even though the mob was on the other side of a locked door, "the mob" had just smashed out the window in the door and now there was a hole in the door big enough to allow the mob to enter and then turn around and unlock the door for the rest of their followers.

I can presume Byrd didn't want this scenario to play out as no one else did as well, including those members of Congress who were hiding behind the seats in the chamber.

So no, you're incorrect in your identification of the the disparity of force since was a mob of individuals whom the officers already knew had violently forced their way into the Capitol, were hunting members of Congress and the cabinet (Pence) and had just threatened the two officers who were standing in-between them and the door that they eventually breached via the window.

 

[NetJedi]

I have no idea what you're referring to when you state "half a dozen unarmed police officers" because all of the police officers I saw on the same side of the door as her were armed.

You're correct I meant to write armed police officers, Thank You for pointing that out.

And KEEPING "the mob" on the other side of the locked door can reasonable be assumed to be what he wanted, because even though the mob was on the other side of a locked door, "the mob" had just smashed out the window in the door and now there was a hole in the door big enough to allow the mob to enter and then turn around and unlock the door for the rest of their followers.

I can presume Byrd didn't want this scenario to play out as no one else did as well, including those members of Congress who were hiding behind the seats in the chamber.

So no, you're incorrect in your identification of the the disparity of force since was a mob of individuals whom the officers already knew had violently forced their way into the Capitol, were hunting members of Congress and the cabinet (Pence) and had just threatened the two officers who were standing in-between them and the door that they eventually breached via the window.

Er um... the window was a bottle neck, the best "the mob" could do was try to climb through one by one, Babbit could have been physically restrained and as I said a blast of OC spray through that window would have taken the starch out of everyone's jammies given that it was an enclosed space.

But hey it's okay he bypassed all the non-lethal options at his disposal and went straight into execution mode, after all Ashli Babbit was a Republican and thus deserved what she got. If this same scenario had played out during the summer of love riots, I suspect all the bloodthirsty partisans here claiming she deserved to die would be singing a different tune.

 

[Doc7505]

Homicide/murder the unlawful taking of a life, not just the taking of a life otherwise there would be no such thing as self-defense.

Or defense of another.

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In the case of Ashli Babbitt she posed no danger and was not in possession of a weapon, It was out and out murder.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The one time the Left applauds law enforcement for open firing upon an unarmed suspect who did not heed police officer commands. All of that bullshit about defunding the police and police reform went out the window.

 

[Doc7505]

I have no idea what you're referring to when you state "half a dozen unarmed police officers" because all of the police officers I saw on the same side of the door as her were armed.

And KEEPING "the mob" on the other side of the locked door can reasonable be assumed to be what he wanted, because even though the mob was on the other side of a locked door, "the mob" had just smashed out the window in the door and now there was a hole in the door big enough to allow the mob to enter and then turn around and unlock the door for the rest of their followers.

I can presume Byrd didn't want this scenario to play out as no one else did as well, including those members of Congress who were hiding behind the seats in the chamber.

So no, you're incorrect in your identification of the the disparity of force since was a mob of individuals whom the officers already knew had violently forced their way into the Capitol, were hunting members of Congress and the cabinet (Pence) and had just threatened the two officers who were standing in-between them and the door that they eventually breached via the window.

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There were two Capital police officers on the other side of the door and were approaching Ashli Babbitt just before Byrd shot and killed her. The policemen immediately left...

New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

Babbitt, 35, was among several supporters of the president who overpowered police and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election in favor o…

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[Nuthin' Fancy]

If you charge at armed police officers, you deserve to get shot.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, like lead poisoning.

 

[Modern Messiah]

You DO know the difference between "advance" and "retreat" right?!?

What does that have to do with shooting an unarmed female military veteran point blank in the neck. Hate to overuse the word Indoctrination. But it takes a seriously deluded fool to think what Byrd did was alright. Hopefully President Trump holds Byrd accountable for his actions.

 

[WilmerV]

You obviously don't know me very well.

Or at all.

Sure, whatever dude.

 

[ColonelAngus]

She needs to go after the POS judge in NY who claims MAR A LAGO is worth $17 million and Trump should go to prison for fraud. This POS needs to go.

 

[Auld Phart]

I never said it was self-defense, I have always stated that he fired his weapon to eliminate an imminent threat (imminent meaning "happening right now").

He fired his weapon to prevent anyone from breaching that door whose window they had broken out so that could circumvent the door in spite of it being locked.

He fired one shot, and a grand total of ZERO others attempted to breach that window thereafter.

Objective of stopping/eliminating an imminent threat - accomplished.

he fired his weapon to eliminate an imminent threat (imminent meaning "happening right now").

she was still on the other side of the door. the threat did not CALL for Lethal Force.

Objective of stopping/eliminating an imminent threat - accomplished.

the only thing 'accomplished' was a woman was unnecessarily murdered.

 

[Auld Phart]

All that and you still don't understand why it was legally allowed (and advised) that Lt. Bryd fired when he did (she was leading a MOB - disparity of force)

Why don't you tell us what you think would have happened had anyone gotten through the window and unlocked the door?

All that and you still don't understand why it was legally allowed

It wasn't. NO one was in 'imminent' danger til that door was breached.

 

[Auld Phart]

Because it fits the definition of when deadly force is allowable for federal officer:

may use only the force that is objectively reasonable to effectively gain control of an incident, while protecting the safety of the officer and others, in keeping with the standards set forth in Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 (1989).

That one shot he fired allowed him to "gain control of the incident". No one else tried to breach that window.

what part of "not in imminent danger til the door was breached" do you not understand?

 

[Chillicothe]

Babbit who has at least six heavily armed police officers within three feet of her

That is demonstrably false. As can be seen in the video.....unarmed officer who had been in front of those doors left to retreat down the stairs as heavily armed officers were coming up the stairs. None....zero....were within three feet of Babbitt.

Babbitt ignored warnings by the police on the opposite side of the purpose-built barricade to retreat, to go away. She ignored the warnings that a gun was being brandished. And once the barricade was breached she leapt towards the officers in a hands and figure concealing shroud.

Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Ashli Babbitt.

 

[Chillicothe]

Byrd was a coward and faggot. Like you.

went straight into execution mode, after all Ashli Babbit was a Republican and thus deserved what she got.

And it is folks like above who wish to persuade us that they can make America great?
Yeah, I don't get it either.
It is folks like above who give MAGA a bad name. And why MAGA is like wearing a 'Kick Me' sign on one's butt.
IMHO

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But it takes a seriously deluded fool to think what Byrd did was alright.

It takes a seriously deluded partisan fool to think that what Babbitt was doing---and did----was alright. Was not extremely dangerous. Was not a crime. Was not a threat towards officers or the sheltering Representatives those officers took and oath to protect.

she was still on the other side of the door.

No, she was not.
She was in the frame of the violently breached door, she was charging towards those sheltering Representatives. You know, the ones those officers took an oath to protect.

Ashli Babbitt is dead due to a whole series of bad decisions on her part....leading to the last and fatal decision to ignore warnings to retreat, warnings of a brandished firearm, .....and she then charged towards those officers who had warned her to back away, to leave.

Officer Byrd...."stood his ground".....and stopped the threat of harm or death to our elected Representatives. And Byrd's shot.....stopped not only Babbitt but also the violent angry criminal mob who were backing her up. A good and righteous shoot.

Ashli Babbitt is dead due to Ashli Babbitt.

 

[NetJedi]

That is demonstrably false. As can be seen in the video.....unarmed officer who had been in front of those doors left to retreat down the stairs as heavily armed officers were coming up the stairs. None....zero....were within three feet of Babbitt.

Babbitt ignored warnings by the police on the opposite side of the purpose-built barricade to retreat, to go away. She ignored the warnings that a gun was being brandished. And once the barricade was breached she leapt towards the officers in a hands and figure concealing shroud.

Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Ashli Babbitt.

You're incorrect, she was shot while crouching in the window frame and immediately fell backwards at the feet of the crowd. In the position she was in it would have been impossible for her to draw a weapon (even if she had one) and attack the officer who shot her from approximately 10 feet away while in a room off to the side of the door and her hands were clearly visible since she was holding onto the window frame when she was shot.

Go look at the actual video of the incident, Ashli Babbitt is dead because an officer screwed up and used deadly force when it was not called for.

 

[Auld Phart]

And it is folks like above who wish to persuade us that they can make America great?
Yeah, I don't get it either.
It is folks like above who give MAGA a bad name. And why MAGA is like wearing a 'Kick Me' sign on one's butt.
IMHO

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It takes a seriously deluded partisan fool to think that what Babbitt was doing---and did----was alright. Was not extremely dangerous. Was not a crime. Was not a threat towards officers or the sheltering Representatives those officers took and oath to protect.



No, she was not.
She was in the frame of the violently breached door, she was charging towards those sheltering Representatives. You know, the ones those officers took an oath to protect.

Ashli Babbitt is dead due to a whole series of bad decisions on her part....leading to the last and fatal decision to ignore warnings to retreat, warnings of a brandished firearm, .....and she then charged towards those officers who had warned her to back away, to leave.

Officer Byrd...."stood his ground".....and stopped the threat of harm or death to our elected Representatives. And Byrd's shot.....stopped not only Babbitt but also the violent angry criminal mob who were backing her up. A good and righteous shoot.

Ashli Babbitt is dead due to Ashli Babbitt.

she was in the frame of the violently breached door, she was charging towards those sheltering Representatives.

the door had not been breached; she was in the process of crawling thru the broken window. Half in, half out, not yet an imminent threat.

 

[Chillicothe]

You're incorrect, she was shot while crouching in the window frame

Babbitt had leapt...likely with help....through the violently breached opening. She was not completely through but clearly on her way to emerge on the other side of those doors and threaten our sheltering elected Representatives.

Any member of a mob violently breaching a specifically locked barricade to their entry and who ignores warnings by officers that they were clearly intent on 'standing-their-ground'......and instead, charges towards those officers, well, ........the bill came due for Babbitt.

Babbitt is dead because of Babbitt.

 

[Auld Phart]

Babbitt had leapt...likely with help....through the violently breached opening. She was not completely through but clearly on her way to emerge on the other side of those doors and threaten our sheltering elected Representatives.

Any member of a mob violently breaching a specifically locked barricade to their entry and who ignores warnings by officers that they were clearly intent on 'standing-their-ground'......and instead, charges towards those officers, well, ........the bill came due for Babbitt.

Babbitt is dead because of Babbitt.

She was not completely through

therefore not a threat requiring lethal Force.

 

[NetJedi]

Babbitt had leapt...likely with help....through the violently breached opening. She was not completely through but clearly on her way to emerge on the other side of those doors and threaten our sheltering elected Representatives.

Any member of a mob violently breaching a specifically locked barricade to their entry and who ignores warnings by officers that they were clearly intent on 'standing-their-ground'......and instead, charges towards those officers, well, ........the bill came due for Babbitt.

Babbitt is dead because of Babbitt.

AGAIN, she was crouching in the door frame when she was shot which makes it impossible for her to be CHARGING at anyone, especially the officer who was off in a side room when he shot her. Repeating the same nonsense won't change the facts.

Apparently, you're watching a different video than the rest of the world is and don't understand the criteria under which deadly force is justified.