Will Michael Jackson Be Convicted Or Not?

[Comrade]

Who thinks he'll fake his own death and that is why he has been working at looking so fricking sickly lately?

No kidding, check this out;

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=822959&page=1

June 6, 2005 — Michael Jackson indicates in an audiotape obtained exclusively by ABC News that he wanted to help the boy at the center of his child molestation trial with feelings of being cheated out of a childhood by his cancer diagnosis and treatment.

"I've had doctors, and his [Jackson's accuser's] doctors say it's a miracle how he's doing better, and that's why I know that this magic of love is so important," Jackson said in a 2000 audiotape recorded by his one-time spiritual adviser Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. "We — he's — he was cheated out of his childhood, and I think I can reflect a lot on that, because of my past."

Jackson is awaiting a verdict in his child molestation trial. "The King of Pop," 46, is accused of molesting a now-15-year-old boy, a cancer survivor, who spent time at Neverland ranch and appeared with him in the 2003 British documentary "Living With Michael Jackson." He faces 10 charges that include felony conspiracy with 28 overt acts involving child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. Jackson has denied all the charges, and his defense has argued that the alleged victim and his family made up the allegations in an attempt to get money.

Jackson's representatives refused to comment on the tapes after being contacted by ABC News.

Boteach told ABC News that he taped 30 hours of conversation with Jackson in 2000 to be used in a book aimed at helping parents. In the tapes, Jackson reflected on the young cancer victim who would later accuse him of child molestation. He indicated to Boteach that he didn't see his friendship with the boy — and other children — as just merely helping others in need of help.

"I feel it's something really, really in my heart that I'm supposed to do," Jackson said. "And I feel so loved by giving my love, and I know that's what they need."


'I Cannot Live Without Them'

Jackson told Boteach — as he has said in other interviews — that he would kill himself if he was told he couldn't spend time with children anymore.

"I cannot live without them," Jackson says. "If you told me right now that 'Michael, you can never see another child,' I would kill myself, I swear to you … I swear because I [would] have nothing else to live for."

 

[Jeff]

It is hard to make a decision when one is not in court and privvy to all the info
and body language of those who testify...Michael is as all can attest weird...as for the prior civil suit alluded to by Bonnie...well civil suits have a lower standard...and sometimes people or corporations pay off to avoid increased cost in defending...does not mean the person or corp is guilty...just saving costs...just food for thought!

I agree with this to a point, but if he paid the civil suit to save a bit of money , or to just get it behind him, then don't ya think he ought to of straightened up a bit , such as not letting little boys sleep with him . If he had paid the first time & this never came up again ( with him admitting that he has had little boys spend the night in his bed)then I would agree 100%! But if ya were worried about the high cost of a legal trial worried enough to pay the family off, then surley ya wouldn't keep doing the same thing. I agree this doesn't make him guilty (just weird) but it sure dosen't help him either. I for one feel he should be castrated!

 

[archangel]

I agree with this to a point, but if he paid the civil suit to save a bit of money , or to just get it behind him, then don't ya think he ought to of straightened up a bit , such as not letting little boys sleep with him . If he had paid the first time & this never came up again ( with him admitting that he has had little boys spend the night in his bed)then I would agree 100%! But if ya were worried about the high cost of a legal trial worried enough to pay the family off, then surley ya wouldn't keep doing the same thing. I agree this doesn't make him guilty (just weird) but it sure dosen't help him either. I for one feel he should be castrated!

We all agree he is just plain weird and socially and sexually immature to say the least..I will defer to the Jury to decide his fate...as I for one was not there and do not have all the facts!

 

[Jeff]

We all agree he is just plain weird and socially and sexually immature to say the least..I will defer to the Jury to decide his fate...as I for one was not there and do not have all the facts!

I agree with ya, I wasn't there either, I simply said any grown man that says in public that he feels it is ok to have little boys to his house & sleep in his room with him after being accused the first time, & paying the family a bunch of money (cause it was cheaper than a trial) is guilty of something , even if it is of being just weird( as we both agree) you would think if he was innocent & settled so it would be faster, cheaper.. than a trial the first time he would of learned a lesson. So in MY opion he should be castrated!

 

[007]

OK... nothing PC, and no tap dancing around the issue. I for one think Jackson is an all out whack job, and likes little boys. He likes to be around them, he likes to give them alcohol, he likes to hug and kiss them, take showers with them, SLEEP WITH THEM... now put this all together folks. If you had a 46 year old, single male neighbor, and he rounded up all the little boys in the neighborhood, took them in his house, gave them liquor, hugged and kissed them, showed them kiddie porn, showered with them, and then SLEPT WITH THEM, you tell me... WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU DO???!!! I'd be surprized if the neighborhood didn't round up a LYNCH PARTY!!!

For Christ sake people, all you saying, "oh... he's just a little funny, but I don't know if he did anything wrong"... for shit sake... WAKE UP! MAAAAAAAN! I can't BELIEVE all the PASSES this sick fucker is getting here.

I think he's guilty as guilty can be, and should be locked up and throw away the key. Unless you want him to move in next to you, and invite YOUR little boy over.

 

[Jeff]

OK... nothing PC, and no tap dancing around the issue. I for one think Jackson is an all out whack job, and likes little boys. He likes to be around them, he likes to give them alcohol, he likes to hug and kiss them, take showers with them, SLEEP WITH THEM... now put this all together folks. If you had a 46 year old, single male neighbor, and he rounded up all the little boys in the neighborhood, took them in his house, gave them liquor, hugged and kissed them, showed them kiddie porn, showered with them, and then SLEPT WITH THEM, you tell me... WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU DO???!!! I'd be surprized if the neighborhood didn't round up a LYNCH PARTY!!!

For Christ sake people, all you saying, "oh... he's just a little funny, but I don't know if he did anything wrong"... for shit sake... WAKE UP! MAAAAAAAN! I can't BELIEVE all the PASSES this sick fucker is getting here.

I think he's guilty as guilty can be, and should be locked up and throw away the key. Unless you want him to move in next to you, and invite YOUR little boy over.

LOL...a bit blunt aren't ya Pale....lol... I agree with ya all except the lock up.... Castrate with a butter knife!!!!

 

[007]

LOL...a bit blunt aren't ya Pale....lol... I agree with ya all except the lock up.... Castrate with a butter knife!!!!

Blunt is good. It eliminates all the gray areas.

If it's dark outside... it's not the sun's not shining, it's "nightime". If your car is red, it's not orange and yellow mix, it's "red". If you had a shitty parent that beat the crap out of you, it's not oh he only did it twice, it's "he beat the crap out of you".

Parsing of words only leads to senseless debate in my opinion. It's for people that like to hear themselves talk, and think they do a good job of it. Myself, I prefer to just get to the point, no matter how unpopular it may be.

 

[JohnGalt]

Shhhhhhh.... Pale, don't let people know that sanity and absolutes exist.

After all, he is just a poor victim of his childhood stardom!

 

[Jeff]

Grey areas, not real sure pale, being castrated to me kind of tells the exact way I feel on the matter. But in our legal system he is innocent until proven guilty, like it or not that is the way it is, So yes in a way I agree with archangel, until a jury convicts legally he is innocent. As for parsing of words leading to senseless debates I feel if I said from the get go he was guilty & that was all there was to it, then that is exactly what I would be doing, As I stated until he is convicted ,if he is, then me thinking he is guilty is my opinion & nothing more.

 

[007]

Grey areas, not real sure pale, being castrated to me kind of tells the exact way I feel on the matter. But in our legal system he is innocent until proven guilty, like it or not that is the way it is, So yes in a way I agree with archangel, until a jury convicts legally he is innocent. As for parsing of words leading to senseless debates I feel if I said from the get go he was guilty & that was all there was to it, then that is exactly what I would be doing, As I stated until he is convicted ,if he is, then me thinking he is guilty is my opinion & nothing more.

Jeff, sorry if you thought I was unloading on you because I wasn't. Most of the time when I go off I'm not speaking to anyone specifically. If I am, I'll refer to them by name.

And I know that in our legal system this sick pedofile is innocent until proven guilty, and that's what's so frustrating. I agree with you he's as guilty as sin.

 

[Adam's Apple]

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/toons/brown/brown1.asp

 

[Bonnie]

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/toons/brown/brown1.asp

That's funny!!

 

[Jeff]

Jeff, sorry if you thought I was unloading on you because I wasn't. Most of the time when I go off I'm not speaking to anyone specifically. If I am, I'll refer to them by name.

And I know that in our legal system this sick pedofile is innocent until proven guilty, and that's what's so frustrating. I agree with you he's as guilty as sin.

OK Pale. for a bit I thought I had done something wrong, I know how I feel but thought maybe it came out another way....lol...glad to know I didn't go complete crazy...lol

 

[colehart]

Michael will moon walk out of court, but will be fined heavily.

 

[kancer43]

If it was only 3 kids that were saying this happened... then maybe it would be possible that it was some kind of conspriacy against him... but not all this... he's done it.. maybe not as many times as he may be accused of... but he definetely has... I hope he goes to jail...

 

[007]

However poeple feel, we'll all know one way or the other soon. The jury ended it's forth day of deliberation today, and the longer it goes, usually that's bad. So no matter what, even if they go for some kind of deal, I think the sick freak is in for some prison at least.

Thank God... make him GO AWAY!

 

[Adam's Apple]

Last night on TV they were talking to some reporters in CA who had been covering the trial on assignment, and they all thought Michael was going to be convicted. They thought even the defense team thinks there will be a guilty verdict. Of course, all that is simply their own opinion on the matter.

One of the reporters who had talked to an insider in the Jackson family said that Michael believes if he is convicted there will be rioting in the streets and the governor or the President will step in and rescue him. (Unbelievable, but this guy does live in Neverland and thinks of himself as Peter Pan.) He has made no plans for the care of his children in case he is convicted, so they are expecting a big fight between Debbie Rowe and the Jackson family if the verdict is guilty.

 

[no1tovote4]

However poeple feel, we'll all know one way or the other soon. The jury ended it's forth day of deliberation today, and the longer it goes, usually that's bad. So no matter what, even if they go for some kind of deal, I think the sick freak is in for some prison at least.

Thank God... make him GO AWAY!

I was just about ready to get on the thread and post something like this as well.

If they really do convict him, is it a sign that star power is losing its hold in California or that they are willing to convict people that are Extraterrestrial in origin even if they are a star?

 

[007]

I was just about ready to get on the thread and post something like this as well.

If they really do convict him, is it a sign that star power is losing its hold in California or that they are willing to convict people that are Extraterrestrial in origin even if they are a star?

:teeth:

 

[Nienna]

And you have to wonder why if Jackson was innocent of the charges from the first accuser, why he settled out of court for money??? He could have fought it and won if so.

I always wondered, if he was guilty, why would the parents settle for money? Anyone touched my baby, and Bill Gates couldn't pay me enough to make me settle for anything less than hard time.