Why would anyone object to Virginia’s new gun laws?

[Mac-7]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Absolutely there is nothing in those laws that any rational person should find objectionable. It is about the public safety. Given comments on this board and others by right-wingers there are people that should not be anywhere near dangerous objects much less guns.

/——/ Those who give up liberty for the false sense of security deserve neither. BF

Liberty to me is going to church and not fearing I will be shot in the head during a hymnal.

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

You mean "by" christians?

There is no hate being spewed by Christians

 

[Mac-7]

Since the Second Amendment was written, when firearms were one-shot muskets and the writers of the Constitution suspected that the British would be back, which they were in 1812, we now actually have a formal militia. It is known as the National Guard. I am hoping that no one is attacked in Richmond this afternoon, and that none of the thugs expected to assemble confronts a member of the Virginia Police or the Virginia Guard.

These thugs are costing us millions, MILLIONS, with their gangsterism. My thoughts are with the members of Virginia law enforcement at this time, who put their lives on the line. And who, at least, must be paid as they should be. We already know that people from out of state are heading to the Commonwealth to incite violence. None of those arrested by the FBI were from the Commonwealth, BTW, and one is even an undocumented alien.

The second clearly referenced well regulated militias. The gun lobby has worked hard to change its meaning. Bearing arms is a military term.

Law abiding American citizens are citizen soldiers dating back to the Minuteman

 

[JustAGuy1]

2. Universal background checks

Overwhelmingly supported by most Americans. Why don’t we want to keep gun sales away from criminals?

Sheer stupidity. You actually believe that "criminals" would buy guns legally?
You're a special one aren't you snake?

 

[progressive hunter]

Democrats are either going to get altered or abolished if you continue to infringe on my rights

Why do you hate the 1st but defend the 2nd so much? you are no better than the gun grabbers.

that is one dumb comment,,,arent you the one ignoring the 1st by condemning his comment,,he has a right to say that,,

No, because I am not trying to get him to stop or trying to get the government to force him to. condemning a comment does not infringe upon the right to say it.

are you really this stupid or is it just an act for the internet?

its clear you dont know the difference between the 1st A and free speech,,,

 

[gipper]

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics will.

You mean a total ban and confiscation

thats not acceptable

and would not succeed anyway since criminals do not obey the law

Gun confiscation is a red herring argument. It is about keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics. Virginia’s laws are more than sensible and reasonable. If SCOTUS rules otherwise so be it.

It depends on who gets to decide who is a lunatic. Can you spot a lunatic?

A judge does that. It's called due process.

So every person wishing to buy a gun, must go before a judge and prove they aren’t a lunatic. Is that how you envision it?

 

[Jitss617]

It’s time to alter or abolish Democrats

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Democrats are either going to get altered or abolished if you continue to infringe on my rights

Why do you hate the 1st but defend the 2nd so much? you are no better than the gun grabbers.

that is one dumb comment,,,arent you the one ignoring the 1st by condemning his comment,,he has a right to say that,,

No, because I am not trying to get him to stop or trying to get the government to force him to. condemning a comment does not infringe upon the right to say it.

are you really this stupid or is it just an act for the internet?

its clear you dont know the difference between the 1st A and free speech,,,

 

[Brain357]

A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...43ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

 

[BlindBoo]

One handgun per month? I guess my question is what kind of handgun would the founders have chosen for every Tom Dick and Harriett born here to own. Revolver or Semi-Automatic?

 

[Brain357]

Since the Second Amendment was written, when firearms were one-shot muskets and the writers of the Constitution suspected that the British would be back, which they were in 1812, we now actually have a formal militia. It is known as the National Guard. I am hoping that no one is attacked in Richmond this afternoon, and that none of the thugs expected to assemble confronts a member of the Virginia Police or the Virginia Guard.

These thugs are costing us millions, MILLIONS, with their gangsterism. My thoughts are with the members of Virginia law enforcement at this time, who put their lives on the line. And who, at least, must be paid as they should be. We already know that people from out of state are heading to the Commonwealth to incite violence. None of those arrested by the FBI were from the Commonwealth, BTW, and one is even an undocumented alien.

The second clearly referenced well regulated militias. The gun lobby has worked hard to change its meaning. Bearing arms is a military term.

Law abiding American citizens are citizen soldiers dating back to the Minuteman

The 2nd is clear about well regulated.

 

[Jitss617]

A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...43ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

Would you like to be altered or would you rather move to a country that fits best for you

 

[Mac-7]

A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...43ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

Check

American citizen soldiers like the Minutemen

 

[Brain357]

A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...43ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

Would you like to be altered or would you rather move to a country that fits best for you

It’s best we actually follow the constitution correctly. The gun lobby has been lying.

 

[MAGAman]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Because we prefer the Liberties guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

Imagine your speech having similar arbitrary restrictions.

 

[Jitss617]

A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...43ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

Would you like to be altered or would you rather move to a country that fits best for you

It’s best we actually follow the constitution correctly. The gun lobby has been lying.

I just follow our constitution and culture.

 

[Mac-7]

Since the Second Amendment was written, when firearms were one-shot muskets and the writers of the Constitution suspected that the British would be back, which they were in 1812, we now actually have a formal militia. It is known as the National Guard. I am hoping that no one is attacked in Richmond this afternoon, and that none of the thugs expected to assemble confronts a member of the Virginia Police or the Virginia Guard.

These thugs are costing us millions, MILLIONS, with their gangsterism. My thoughts are with the members of Virginia law enforcement at this time, who put their lives on the line. And who, at least, must be paid as they should be. We already know that people from out of state are heading to the Commonwealth to incite violence. None of those arrested by the FBI were from the Commonwealth, BTW, and one is even an undocumented alien.

The second clearly referenced well regulated militias. The gun lobby has worked hard to change its meaning. Bearing arms is a military term.

Law abiding American citizens are citizen soldiers dating back to the Minuteman

The 2nd is clear about well regulated.

The Founding Fathers Explain The Second Amendment

the man who authored the 2nd Amendment explained what it meant

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

 

[Jitss617]

Leftists have no grasp on reality.

 

[Brain357]

Since the Second Amendment was written, when firearms were one-shot muskets and the writers of the Constitution suspected that the British would be back, which they were in 1812, we now actually have a formal militia. It is known as the National Guard. I am hoping that no one is attacked in Richmond this afternoon, and that none of the thugs expected to assemble confronts a member of the Virginia Police or the Virginia Guard.

These thugs are costing us millions, MILLIONS, with their gangsterism. My thoughts are with the members of Virginia law enforcement at this time, who put their lives on the line. And who, at least, must be paid as they should be. We already know that people from out of state are heading to the Commonwealth to incite violence. None of those arrested by the FBI were from the Commonwealth, BTW, and one is even an undocumented alien.

The second clearly referenced well regulated militias. The gun lobby has worked hard to change its meaning. Bearing arms is a military term.

Law abiding American citizens are citizen soldiers dating back to the Minuteman

The 2nd is clear about well regulated.

The Founding Fathers Explain The Second Amendment

the man who authored the 2nd Amendment explained what it meant

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

And they specified well regulated.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Leftists have no grasp on reality.

 

[Brain357]

The NRA interpretation is a fraud:

So well settled was the issue that, speaking on the PBS NewsHour in 1991, the retired Chief Justice Warren Burger described the National Rifle Association’s lobbying in support of an expansive interpretation of the Second Amendment in these terms: “One of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”