Why Women Need Husbands

[ClosedCaption]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

There is so much wrong with this statement I dont even know where to start.

Sincerely, The Provider and Nurturer

I'd love to hear it

 

[Katzndogz]

My deceased husband's daughter is the provider. Her husband is the stay at home husband. They have no children. She's not exhausted. When she comes home from work dinner is on the table, the house is clean, the clothes washed and ironed. They just bought a house. He put in a nice little vegetable garden. He doesn't like working outside the house.

It takes all kinds. I had a male roommate once that overstepped his boundaries in household decision making. He said "A ship has only one captain" to which I answered "You're crew so get used to it or get out."

 

[Vox]

There have been several men in this thread (and others) who have been very critical & demeaning towards women who want a career. I did not make it up, I addressed the issue with them. There have been men here who said women need a husband because they are weak, that have said strong women are dykes & androgenous (therefore ugly and undesireable) I addressed those comments.

I have always maintained support for any woman who chooses to stay at home, if that is their choice.

I have also maintained that men can stay home just as well.

so what? they have their right to that view and tere is certainly not a small segment of women who absolutely share that particular view. Your approach of" let them all work at the conveyer and also run amok providing for the family" is NOT any better than the view you critisize.

And the father ( or the mother) has all the right to encorage their kids to chose one way or the other - and usually they do know their kids much better than anybody outside the family.

You have no role in deciding what parents chose as an option for their children. Except if you decide for your OWN children.

My view is that we let each person decide what is right for them. And I will defend that view. If you read all that I said you would have seen that I have stated that over and over.

except the person is not an adult popping out from nowhere. and the families, including fathers have an absolute right to encourage their daughters to develop one way or the other.
You, hwever, seem to consider the way of encouraging professional path only to be the valuable approach.
Parents know their kids much better. and if a father or a mother are not especially encouraging for the professional path for their daughter, maybe it is not because thy want her "barefoot and pregnanat", maybe they simly know that she is not very bright and will beneft much more if she is not forced into something she is not suited for?

I have seen too many of those, pushed to pursue "profession" and "studies" where all they really wanted was a husband and kids - and nothing more.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I notice it is almost all men who think a woman's place is in the home.

You don't "notice" that, it's just a hate fueled delusion you hold.

Several have been adamant about the damages done when they do not comply.

At least you've seen a 1950's Marlon Brando movie - and shaped your world view as a result..

I have no war on the family.

Bulshit.

That is exactly what the counter culture is, a war on the family. Begin by expelling the man from the family - which is nearly complete.

You paint a picture of independent women who have no need of a man. But of course this is a false picture you paint.

26.2% of all children in the U.S. will be raised by women who never married. YEA! What a win, what a wonderful thing - show those men that they are useless and not needed.

82.2% of those children will live in poverty and require government aid.

Single Parent Statistics in the U.S.

Not quite the "independence" you of the counter culture preach. Not exactly "Murphy Brown."

What you're selling is a lie; a lie that leads to poverty, high crime rates, and despair.


Do you want you child to go to prison? If you do, if that is your goal, then the #1 thing you can do to ensure that happens, is have the child out of wedlock.

In fact, I am more family oriented than some on this thread, because I put it first. I do not demand that someone else sacrifice what I am unwilling to sacrifice. I am simply not one to tolerate the continuation of the idea that women need a husband, whether they want one or not.

I have no ability to gauge how family oriented anyone on an antonymous message board is - you are what you post here. Your posts are decidedly anti-family.

I do not claim he is required to answer because of my superiority. I ridicule him for demanding that others answer his questions, while he refuses to answer someone else's. I'm also ridiculing him because the question shows his contention that he should not stay home, but his wife should.

All very nice, but since he is clearly trolling you, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

I don't hate men at all. I do hate that some think they should have a woman at their beck & call, or that they are somehow superior to them. If you look over the thread about men "turning" gay because of women, you can easily see what I mean.

If you see irony it is because you have not paid attention to both sides of the argument.

You recite the line from the far left which is decidedly anti-man.

 

[Katzndogz]

I have seen just as many pushed to be a wife, mother and nothing more, when what they really wanted was a career.

How many men want to be a house husband, father and nothing more?

 

[Vox]

I am just as hard on those who claim a stay-at-home Mom is unacceptable.

well, that was not my impression from your words.

Acceptable is what makes the person happy.
If she does not want to study and have a professional life - she should not be forced to.
And vice verse.

I'm sorry you missed some of my statements. I have simply been adamantly opposed to those who claim a woman's place is in the home. If the woman chooses that, I'm happy for her. But to call them names when they want a career or tell them they are too weak is something I feel justified in challenging.

well, you adamantly decided that a father encouraing his daughter to stay at home and be a wife is soehow damaging to that daughter.

A woman is not born a woman - she is a baby at first, a little girl, a child, a teenager and it takes a long way to grow into a woman.
And the parents know their kids much better, than some "wishing the best" outsiders. You do not know what is the best for a particular child.

 

[Unkotare]

I notice it is almost all men who think a woman's place is in the home. Several have been adamant about the damages done when they do not comply.



I don't hate men at all. I do hate that some think they should have a woman at their beck & call, or that they are somehow superior to them. .

Who here has said all that? You and some others seem overly eager to rail against the above, but I haven't seen anyone on this thread say the things you obviously want to oppose.

 

[Vox]

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

I have known some men who stayed at home and some women who provided for their families. The women I know who complain and are exhausted were the ones trying to do it on their own because the man walked out.

Men and women can be providers, just like both can be the one who stays home.

Can be and want to be are two different things.

Just FYI whenever I say something I'm not talking about 100% of the people 100% of the time but women don't want to handle shit at the most they want to be co-captain. If they have to be captain they're looking around to see if there is a ship they can board.

This pretend world we created where we have to lie and say men and women are the same is the reason we are where we are today. Women thinking they can do it on their own...THEY CAN but they are lying to themselves to say they prefer it that way. But since they have to have this "I'm strong and independent" façade going on it turned away from just being strong and able to do it on their own to "I DONT NEED A MAN!!" bullshit out of pride

WOW, I am amazed, to say the least

 

[Diana1180]

so what? they have their right to that view and tere is certainly not a small segment of women who absolutely share that particular view. Your approach of" let them all work at the conveyer and also run amok providing for the family" is NOT any better than the view you critisize.

And the father ( or the mother) has all the right to encorage their kids to chose one way or the other - and usually they do know their kids much better than anybody outside the family.

You have no role in deciding what parents chose as an option for their children. Except if you decide for your OWN children.

My view is that we let each person decide what is right for them. And I will defend that view. If you read all that I said you would have seen that I have stated that over and over.

except the person is not an adult popping out from nowhere. and the families, including fathers have an absolute right to encourage their daughters to develop one way or the other.
You, hwever, seem to consider the way of encouraging professional path only to be the valuable approach.
Parents know their kids much better. and if a father or a mother are not especially encouraging for the professional path for their daughter, maybe it is not because thy want her "barefoot and pregnanat", maybe they simly know that she is not very bright and will beneft much more if she is not forced into something she is not suited for?

I have seen too many of those, pushed to pursue "profession" and "studies" where all they really wanted was a husband and kids - and nothing more.

"Oh, Emily? No, she's no that bright. We are hoping some man will come along to marry her so she doesnt have to learn a usefull skill. I mean, she probably couldnt learn it anyway. She will be just fine staying home and taking care of the house and husband"

I have no problem with woman who want to be stay at home moms..and who just wants to be the great mom and wife. Awesome. Good for her. But honestly, I roll my eyes when I hear about a female who doesnt know how to pay bills or balance a budget because the man always did it. God frobid something happens to him. She has no useful skill to now be the provider for the family.

 

[Katzndogz]

The whole problem is expectations. Women should not be raised specifically to stay home. Men should not be raised specifically to see themselves as providers. The roles should be subject to change as the needs of the couple change. It isn't roles of superior/subservient that destroy families, it the lack of commitment on the part of either or both.

I certainly don't hate men who think they should have a woman at their beck and call. There are some women who are looking for man who wants them at their beck and call. They only need to find one another. Just like there are men who are happy staying home, taking care of the house and doing a bit of gardening, they should find a woman who wants to go out into the world and do corporate battle and wants nothing more than someone to make her homelife comfortable.

 

[Luissa]

The article is absolutely true but if women want part time jobs and balanced lives, they should not vote dimocrap EVER - because dimocraps are TOXIC for the economy and in the bad economy part-time jobs disappear FIRST.

So all those Ivy League grads and highly educated women should look into their priorities in voting. They have a choice in their priorities to make - what is more important to them - a third-trimester abortion legal and contraceptives paid by taxpayer or be able to find a part-time job easily to balance work and family and to pay for the contraceptives themselves. And never have any need for an abortion.

Did you copy and paste that from some right wing Christian blog?
Why does every issue go back to third trimester abortions for you?

 

[Katzndogz]

well, that was not my impression from your words.

Acceptable is what makes the person happy.
If she does not want to study and have a professional life - she should not be forced to.
And vice verse.

I'm sorry you missed some of my statements. I have simply been adamantly opposed to those who claim a woman's place is in the home. If the woman chooses that, I'm happy for her. But to call them names when they want a career or tell them they are too weak is something I feel justified in challenging.

well, you adamantly decided that a father encouraing his daughter to stay at home and be a wife is soehow damaging to that daughter.

A woman is not born a woman - she is a baby at first, a little girl, a child, a teenager and it takes a long way to grow into a woman.
And the parents know their kids much better, than some "wishing the best" outsiders. You do not know what is the best for a particular child.

Because it is damaging to the daughter. Maybe the daughter wants to be a singer, or a judge, or a corporate CEO. Children aren't ciphers, they have dreams of their own. Just because it's a girl doesn't mean they should be guided out of having those dreams.

 

[Derideo_Te]

this!

The old saying is true, stupid is as leftist does....

This threads is simply "Why women need husbands."

It says nothing about "staying home," certainly nothing about "barefoot and pregnant."

But a stable marriage goes against the "war on families" that the left has waged since the 1960's. In America, the open warfare to destroy the family began with the culture wars, and obviously continues to this day. Of course the REAL root of the war you wage against the family goes back far longer than the hippies and their desire for societal collapse.

The war you and the rest of the left fight against the family has it's roots in the 1860's. Karl Marx wrote of the supremacy of the state, and those elements which challenged a supreme state. Religion and family are the top of the list. The concept that a man is responsible to an authority greater than the state made religion an obvious target.

But even more of an issue is the loyalty that men felt toward their families. Lenin spoke at length of the need to dissolve the family, to make children the property of the state at 5 years of age.

What you, Clayton, and the rest of the left advocate here is nothing new, just a rehash of the ongoing war the left wages on the family. Lenin dictated that "The Party is Mother, the Party is Father," illustrating that the only family that is recognized by the left, is loyalty to the state. While you seek only to expel men from the family structure, you continue the already well established foundation of children as property of the state, rather than as members of a foundational support system that abides and cares for one another.

The utterly baseless paranoia of the extreme right would be amusing if it wasn't such an obvious symptom of mental instability.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Oh, Emily? No, she's no that bright. We are hoping some man will come along to marry her so she doesnt have to learn a usefull skill. I mean, she probably couldnt learn it anyway. She will be just fine staying home and taking care of the house and husband"

I have no problem with woman who want to be stay at home moms..and who just wants to be the great mom and wife. Awesome. Good for her. But honestly, I roll my eyes when I hear about a female who doesnt know how to pay bills or balance a budget because the man always did it. God frobid something happens to him. She has no useful skill to now be the provider for the family.

And we wonder why our society is failing...


A mother who nurtures the next generation has "no useful skills," according to those who dictate our culture....

 

[Uncensored2008]

The utterly baseless paranoia of the extreme right would be amusing if it wasn't such an obvious symptom of mental instability.

Right - because stable families have risen as the radical left assumed control..

Oh wait -

{ The shift is affecting children’s lives. Researchers have consistently found that children born outside marriage face elevated risks of falling into poverty, failing in school or suffering emotional and behavioral problems.

The forces rearranging the family are as diverse as globalization and the pill. Liberal analysts argue that shrinking paychecks have thinned the ranks of marriageable men, while conservatives often say that the sexual revolution reduced the incentive to wed and that safety net programs discourage marriage. }

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?_r=0

What a blessing you leftists are to children and society....

 

[Diana1180]

"Oh, Emily? No, she's no that bright. We are hoping some man will come along to marry her so she doesnt have to learn a usefull skill. I mean, she probably couldnt learn it anyway. She will be just fine staying home and taking care of the house and husband"

I have no problem with woman who want to be stay at home moms..and who just wants to be the great mom and wife. Awesome. Good for her. But honestly, I roll my eyes when I hear about a female who doesnt know how to pay bills or balance a budget because the man always did it. God frobid something happens to him. She has no useful skill to now be the provider for the family.

And we wonder why our society is failing...


A mother who nurtures the next generation has "no useful skills," according to those who dictate our culture....

Nice way to twist my words. Being a stay at home parent is not an easy thing (as I have already said) but what about when something happens to that other parent who is the provider? Now the parents who has stayed home for the past 20 years has to enter the workforce. Did she have a degree before staying home for 20 years? Hopefully she kept up with the changing world of her degree. If not, she starts from ground zero, degree or not. If she didnt have a degree, now she gets to try to find a job that isnt minimum wage so she can bring enough home to pay the bills and put food onthe table.

Everyone should be raised to be independant. To be able to survive on their own if need be. Would a partner be great? yes, of course. But as someone said before...need and want are two different things.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nice way to twist my words.

No twist involved.

Sure, you'll back away and blow lots of smoke, but that is EXACTLY the position of your of the left, a mother is useless.

Being a stay at home parent is not an easy thing (as I have already said)

And pointless, as they have no useful skills - according to you of the left. The job of raising the next generation is one you view with contempt.

At least, it's one you believe should be done by government institutions, rather than by mothers dedicated to their children.

but what about when something happens to that other parent who is the provider? Now the parents who has stayed home for the past 20 years has to enter the workforce.

What an absurd question. Those advocating that women need no husband, can have children without any support structure, living on government aid, asks what happens if the man is no longer there?

Was your purpose to be ironic?

Did she have a degree before staying home for 20 years?

Actually, the vast majority of women with degrees get married before having children.

{One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, with the economic and social rewards of marriage increasingly reserved for people with the most education. }

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?_r=0

The bullshit that single motherhood is the path to independence is sold to the least educated and most vulnerable in society.

I see this as calculated war on families by the left. While men are reviled and demeaned, women suffer more, and children suffer the most.

Hopefully she kept up with the changing world of her degree. If not, she starts from ground zero, degree or not. If she didnt have a degree, now she gets to try to find a job that isnt minimum wage so she can bring enough home to pay the bills and put food onthe table.

And no doubt this is all the fault of men...

Everyone should be raised to be independant. To be able to survive on their own if need be. Would a partner be great? yes, of course. But as someone said before...need and want are two different things.

Poverty tracks exactly with your goal of women who reject the family model.

The damage you do is immeasurable. Your war on the family is a war on our next generation.

 

[WinterBorn]

so what? they have their right to that view and tere is certainly not a small segment of women who absolutely share that particular view. Your approach of" let them all work at the conveyer and also run amok providing for the family" is NOT any better than the view you critisize.

And the father ( or the mother) has all the right to encorage their kids to chose one way or the other - and usually they do know their kids much better than anybody outside the family.

You have no role in deciding what parents chose as an option for their children. Except if you decide for your OWN children.

My view is that we let each person decide what is right for them. And I will defend that view. If you read all that I said you would have seen that I have stated that over and over.

except the person is not an adult popping out from nowhere. and the families, including fathers have an absolute right to encourage their daughters to develop one way or the other.
You, hwever, seem to consider the way of encouraging professional path only to be the valuable approach.
Parents know their kids much better. and if a father or a mother are not especially encouraging for the professional path for their daughter, maybe it is not because thy want her "barefoot and pregnanat", maybe they simly know that she is not very bright and will beneft much more if she is not forced into something she is not suited for?

I have seen too many of those, pushed to pursue "profession" and "studies" where all they really wanted was a husband and kids - and nothing more.

If you had read the comparison I made to clarify, I talked about the difference between what some tell their sons as opposed to what they tell their daughters.

And it is funny that you defend everyone's right to their own opinion, except for when I express mine.

My posts have been about each person being able to choose what is best for them. I don't see you berating the man who said women need a husband because they are weak.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I have known some men who stayed at home and some women who provided for their families. The women I know who complain and are exhausted were the ones trying to do it on their own because the man walked out.

Men and women can be providers, just like both can be the one who stays home.

Can be and want to be are two different things.

Just FYI whenever I say something I'm not talking about 100% of the people 100% of the time but women don't want to handle shit at the most they want to be co-captain. If they have to be captain they're looking around to see if there is a ship they can board.

This pretend world we created where we have to lie and say men and women are the same is the reason we are where we are today. Women thinking they can do it on their own...THEY CAN but they are lying to themselves to say they prefer it that way. But since they have to have this "I'm strong and independent" façade going on it turned away from just being strong and able to do it on their own to "I DONT NEED A MAN!!" bullshit out of pride

WOW, I am amazed, to say the least

expound

 

[Derideo_Te]

The utterly baseless paranoia of the extreme right would be amusing if it wasn't such an obvious symptom of mental instability.

Right - because stable families have risen as the radical left assumed control..

Oh wait -

{ The shift is affecting children’s lives. Researchers have consistently found that children born outside marriage face elevated risks of falling into poverty, failing in school or suffering emotional and behavioral problems.

The forces rearranging the family are as diverse as globalization and the pill. Liberal analysts argue that shrinking paychecks have thinned the ranks of marriageable men, while conservatives often say that the sexual revolution reduced the incentive to wed and that safety net programs discourage marriage. }

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?_r=0

What a blessing you leftists are to children and society....

The failure of the greed obsessed right to pay living wages and benefits has forced mothers to go out to work so your "holier than thou" allegations are nothing but partisan hypocrisy.