Why Women Need Husbands

[WinterBorn]

Women don't need a husband any more than a man needs a wife. Get married because you want to spend your life with that person.

Why are men not encouraged to stay home and to have their wives provide for them?

Because that goes against your very fiber of being a man.

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

He obviously views stay at home women as worth less. But apparently were the ones who hate women.

Piss on him.

I have no problem with any woman who chooses to stay home. But you don't want to give them that choice.

But you think they are worth less. You even said so, you said someone who encourages their daughter to be a stay at home is teaching her to think of herself as a worth less.

So the question here is, why do you look down at stay at home moms? Why the prejudice?

The more important question is why would any parent do that to his daughter? Why would any parent seek to deny his child the ability to be self-sufficient?

If a woman elects to be a ‘stay at home,’ that’s her right; but that woman should at least have the ability to support herself on her own if, and more likely when, the marriage comes to an end.

And any responsible parent would make sure his child has the education and training to be self-sufficient, regardless the child’s gender.

 

[Katzndogz]

Today women need to know how to be self-sufficient. Men have no sense of responsibility to wives or children. They can walk out the door at any time and frequently do so. If women need to know how to be self-sufficient and take care of themselves financially, men need to know how to wash clothes, cook, clean, and do every bit of homemaking a woman does because that wife can walk out the door any any time and frequently do so.

Both men and women need to know how to take care of whatever comes along because the sense of responsibility to family is gone.

 

[WinterBorn]

Oh please! You are gonna try that after pages and pages of the vile crap you spewed about women who want a career or who don't want to be subservient?

The ONLY one who has suggested that women be subservient is you.

It's a straw man you have erected in your war on the family.

Come on, tell us why you never answered my simple question?

You said a woman would be insane to not want to stay at home if you made a good living. But when I asked if your wife made more money, would you stay at home and take care of the kids, clean the house and cook, you refused to answer. I asked you over and over and over and you refused to answer.

Do you feel that men are required to answer you, due to your natural superiority?

I have no problem with any woman who chooses to stay home. But you don't want to give them that choice. And if they do choose something different, you make some outrageous claim that they are "turning men gay".

Do you hate men?

So don't even bring your lame lines here.

Irony...

I notice it is almost all men who think a woman's place is in the home. Several have been adamant about the damages done when they do not comply.

I have no war on the family. In fact, I am more family oriented than some on this thread, because I put it first. I do not demand that someone else sacrifice what I am unwilling to sacrifice. I am simply not one to tolerate the continuation of the idea that women need a husband, whether they want one or not.

I do not claim he is required to answer because of my superiority. I ridicule him for demanding that others answer his questions, while he refuses to answer someone else's. I'm also ridiculing him because the question shows his contention that he should not stay home, but his wife should.

I don't hate men at all. I do hate that some think they should have a woman at their beck & call, or that they are somehow superior to them. If you look over the thread about men "turning" gay because of women, you can easily see what I mean.

If you see irony it is because you have not paid attention to both sides of the argument.

 

[WinterBorn]

I have no problem with any woman who chooses to stay home. But you don't want to give them that choice.

But you think they are worth less. You even said so, you said someone who encourages their daughter to be a stay at home is teaching her to think of herself as a worth less.

So the question here is, why do you look down at stay at home moms? Why the prejudice?

The more important question is why would any parent do that to his daughter? Why would any parent seek to deny his child the ability to be self-sufficient?

If a woman elects to be a ‘stay at home,’ that’s her right; but that woman should at least have the ability to support herself on her own if, and more likely when, the marriage comes to an end.

And any responsible parent would make sure his child has the education and training to be self-sufficient, regardless the child’s gender.

On this we agree. And this is why I have been adamant about my debate with Iceman. His contention is an independent and strong woman is androgenous and causes men to become gay. That is a disgusting throwback.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Are you a man?

Dayum, I though you were Gloria Steinem...

 

[Vox]

I think it would be more accurate to say that some men need for women to need a husband.

Children NEED a stable family...

But who cares about them?

Children do better when there are two parents. But having a father that teaches his daughter that a woman's place is in the home (barefoot & pregnant) is teaching his daughter she is worth less. And he is teaching her a lie when he tells her she is too weak to live alone.

Its funny, it takes both parents to create the child, but only one of them has to give up all career aspirations when the child is born, and it is (according to many here) the woman's duty to do that.

Bullsit.
Noody teaches that - it is a leftard lie.

Some girls and women DO want to stay home and be just wives and homemakers - and they should be able to.
Some wnat to exceed in the professional arena and are not interested in family and kids - and should also be able to.

The vast majority of women, though, want ot combine both family and professional work - and the needs of the that vast majority is neglected the most.

The extremes are highlighted on purpose, so the societal responsibility towards the women which combine family and professional work is negelected and put on the back burner.

Wonder who is brainwashing the extremes and making the highest noise in order to hush the real needs of the women

 

[Vox]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Are you a man?

Dayum, I though you were Gloria Steinem...

thought so, too

 

[WinterBorn]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Are you a man?

Dayum, I though you were Gloria Steinem...

If you think a man cannot be supportive of women and their independence, then we have a different definition of what it means to be a man.

I have no qualms about who I am or that I am a man.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Women don't need a husband any more than a man needs a wife. Get married because you want to spend your life with that person.

Why are men not encouraged to stay home and to have their wives provide for them?

Because that goes against your very fiber of being a man.

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

 

[WinterBorn]

Children NEED a stable family...

But who cares about them?

Children do better when there are two parents. But having a father that teaches his daughter that a woman's place is in the home (barefoot & pregnant) is teaching his daughter she is worth less. And he is teaching her a lie when he tells her she is too weak to live alone.

Its funny, it takes both parents to create the child, but only one of them has to give up all career aspirations when the child is born, and it is (according to many here) the woman's duty to do that.

Bullsit.
Noody teaches that - it is a leftard lie.

Some girls and women DO want to stay home and be just wives and homemakers - and they should be able to.
Some wnat to exceed in the professional arena and are not interested in family and kids - and should also be able to.

The vast majority of women, though, want ot combine both family and professional work - and the needs of the that vast majority is neglected the most.

The extremes are highlighted on purpose, so the societal responsibility towards the women which combine family and professional work is negelected and put on the back burner.

Wonder who is brainwashing the extremes and making the highest noise in order to hush the real needs of the women

There have been several men in this thread (and others) who have been very critical & demeaning towards women who want a career. I did not make it up, I addressed the issue with them. There have been men here who said women need a husband because they are weak, that have said strong women are dykes & androgenous (therefore ugly and undesireable) I addressed those comments.

I have always maintained support for any woman who chooses to stay at home, if that is their choice.

I have also maintained that men can stay home just as well.

 

[Vox]

Because that goes against your very fiber of being a man.

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

In the vast majority of cases you are absolutely correct - that is a normal way of things.
However, there are exceptions and they should also be allowed

The problm is the normal standards ( the one you described) have been somehow denigrated to unacceptible, where the exceptions instead put on a pedestal.
This is not beneficial for the normal functioning of the society and we are observing the results of this upside down propaganda lie.

 

[WinterBorn]

Because that goes against your very fiber of being a man.

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

I have known some men who stayed at home and some women who provided for their families. The women I know who complain and are exhausted were the ones trying to do it on their own because the man walked out.

Men and women can be providers, just like both can be the one who stays home.

 

[Diana1180]

Because that goes against your very fiber of being a man.

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

There is so much wrong with this statement I dont even know where to start.

Sincerely, The Provider and Nurturer

 

[Vox]

Children do better when there are two parents. But having a father that teaches his daughter that a woman's place is in the home (barefoot & pregnant) is teaching his daughter she is worth less. And he is teaching her a lie when he tells her she is too weak to live alone.

Its funny, it takes both parents to create the child, but only one of them has to give up all career aspirations when the child is born, and it is (according to many here) the woman's duty to do that.

Bullsit.
Noody teaches that - it is a leftard lie.

Some girls and women DO want to stay home and be just wives and homemakers - and they should be able to.
Some wnat to exceed in the professional arena and are not interested in family and kids - and should also be able to.

The vast majority of women, though, want ot combine both family and professional work - and the needs of the that vast majority is neglected the most.

The extremes are highlighted on purpose, so the societal responsibility towards the women which combine family and professional work is negelected and put on the back burner.

Wonder who is brainwashing the extremes and making the highest noise in order to hush the real needs of the women

There have been several men in this thread (and others) who have been very critical & demeaning towards women who want a career. I did not make it up, I addressed the issue with them. There have been men here who said women need a husband because they are weak, that have said strong women are dykes & androgenous (therefore ugly and undesireable) I addressed those comments.

I have always maintained support for any woman who chooses to stay at home, if that is their choice.

I have also maintained that men can stay home just as well.

so what? they have their right to that view and tere is certainly not a small segment of women who absolutely share that particular view. Your approach of" let them all work at the conveyer and also run amok providing for the family" is NOT any better than the view you criticize.

And the father ( or the mother) has all the right to encorage their kids to chose one way or the other - and usually they do know their kids much better than anybody outside the family.

You have no role in deciding what parents chose as an option for their children. Except if you decide for your OWN children.

 

[WinterBorn]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

In the vast majority of cases you are absolutely correct - that is a normal way of things.
However, there are exceptions and they should also be allowed

The problm is the normal standards ( the one you described) have been somehow denigrated to unacceptible, where the exceptions instead put on a pedestal.
This is not beneficial for the normal functioning of the society and we are observing the results of this upside down propaganda lie.

I am just as hard on those who claim a stay-at-home Mom is unacceptable.

 

[Vox]

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

In the vast majority of cases you are absolutely correct - that is a normal way of things.
However, there are exceptions and they should also be allowed

The problm is the normal standards ( the one you described) have been somehow denigrated to unacceptible, where the exceptions instead put on a pedestal.
This is not beneficial for the normal functioning of the society and we are observing the results of this upside down propaganda lie.

I am just as hard on those who claim a stay-at-home Mom is unacceptable.

well, that was not my impression from your words.

Acceptable is what makes the person happy.
If she does not want to study and have a professional life - she should not be forced to.
And vice verse.

 

[WinterBorn]

Bullsit.
Noody teaches that - it is a leftard lie.

Some girls and women DO want to stay home and be just wives and homemakers - and they should be able to.
Some wnat to exceed in the professional arena and are not interested in family and kids - and should also be able to.

The vast majority of women, though, want ot combine both family and professional work - and the needs of the that vast majority is neglected the most.

The extremes are highlighted on purpose, so the societal responsibility towards the women which combine family and professional work is negelected and put on the back burner.

Wonder who is brainwashing the extremes and making the highest noise in order to hush the real needs of the women

There have been several men in this thread (and others) who have been very critical & demeaning towards women who want a career. I did not make it up, I addressed the issue with them. There have been men here who said women need a husband because they are weak, that have said strong women are dykes & androgenous (therefore ugly and undesireable) I addressed those comments.

I have always maintained support for any woman who chooses to stay at home, if that is their choice.

I have also maintained that men can stay home just as well.

so what? they have their right to that view and tere is certainly not a small segment of women who absolutely share that particular view. Your approach of" let them all work at the conveyer and also run amok providing for the family" is NOT any better than the view you critisize.

And the father ( or the mother) has all the right to encorage their kids to chose one way or the other - and usually they do know their kids much better than anybody outside the family.

You have no role in deciding what parents chose as an option for their children. Except if you decide for your OWN children.

My view is that we let each person decide what is right for them. And I will defend that view. If you read all that I said you would have seen that I have stated that over and over.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Every fiber of my being a man wanted to provide the best for my family.

Being a man is being a provider. That's what we do. When you aren't providing you can be a stay at home dad but it ***** with you.

Bottom line is men and women aren't the same. Women are nurturers and men are providers. You ever seen a chick that has to be the provider?

They complain, are exhausted, disheveled etc. Women don't WANT to do that shit...they want to hand that over to a dude.

I have known some men who stayed at home and some women who provided for their families. The women I know who complain and are exhausted were the ones trying to do it on their own because the man walked out.

Men and women can be providers, just like both can be the one who stays home.

Can be and want to be are two different things.

Just FYI whenever I say something I'm not talking about 100% of the people 100% of the time but women don't want to handle shit at the most they want to be co-captain. If they have to be captain they're looking around to see if there is a ship they can board.

This pretend world we created where we have to lie and say men and women are the same is the reason we are where we are today. Women thinking they can do it on their own...THEY CAN but they are lying to themselves to say they prefer it that way. But since they have to have this "I'm strong and independent" façade going on it turned away from just being strong and able to do it on their own to "I DONT NEED A MAN!!" bullshit out of pride

 

[WinterBorn]

In the vast majority of cases you are absolutely correct - that is a normal way of things.
However, there are exceptions and they should also be allowed

The problm is the normal standards ( the one you described) have been somehow denigrated to unacceptible, where the exceptions instead put on a pedestal.
This is not beneficial for the normal functioning of the society and we are observing the results of this upside down propaganda lie.

I am just as hard on those who claim a stay-at-home Mom is unacceptable.

well, that was not my impression from your words.

Acceptable is what makes the person happy.
If she does not want to study and have a professional life - she should not be forced to.
And vice verse.

I'm sorry you missed some of my statements. I have simply been adamantly opposed to those who claim a woman's place is in the home. If the woman chooses that, I'm happy for her. But to call them names when they want a career or tell them they are too weak is something I feel justified in challenging.